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<Juesto>
DocScrutinizer05: is the production halted? which OSes has it been tested on? is the device itself finished?
<Joerg-Neo900>
we wait for layouter metacolin to finish layout of prot_v2
<Juesto>
how many prototypes it'll have?
<Juesto>
is the first one not good?
<Joerg-Neo900>
Juesto: developing a design usually needs incremental evolutionary steps of prottypes
<Juesto>
well, still would like some insight on the first, Joerg-Neo900, such as what's the goal, how it turned out, pro and cons, etc
<Joerg-Neo900>
we got a proto_v1 fro mechanical stuff and modem testing, we are about to do proto_v2 and we hope to have a golden production-ready sample with proto_v3
<Joerg-Neo900>
there are photos of proto_v1 on tmo
<Juesto>
how many people are in it? how long did proto_v1 took?
<Joerg-Neo900>
maybe somebody just needs to send RMS a email telling him to "according to your former email, please say so on FSF site"
<cc_1>
they won't speak of an unreleased product on the FSF site
<sicelo>
does FSF know about Neo900?
<Juesto>
yes, it looks like?
<Juesto>
good question
<anon->
we should draft a letter to the FSF to present the Neo900 as a better alternative to their current phone
<anon->
FSF funding could make this project work
<Juesto>
which phone?
<anon->
"Tehnoetic S2 with Replicant" - see atk's link
<anon->
also they need to understand the significance of their nonfree modem "caveat"
<Joerg-Neo900>
S2 prolly has modem separation
<Joerg-Neo900>
at least partially, not sure if they have shared RAM
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<anon->
that's not enough. the modem needs to be able to be turned off completely
<anon->
I always take notice when I read an article where cell phone tracking was used in an investigation, so it's being used
<anon->
all that is required is that the phone is connected to the network
<Joerg-Neo900>
sure thing. We're aware of that
<Joerg-Neo900>
but even RYF is not "Respects Your Privacy"
<Joerg-Neo900>
Freedom in the definition of FSF is strictly in a FOSS context
<Joerg-Neo900>
it doesn't *really* cover neither Security nor Privacy
<Joerg-Neo900>
the "fun" part in FSF's "RYF cert": they don't even have a means to certify a mere hardware provided to them without any software at all
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<Joerg-Neo900>
the whole RYF thing is sw-focused. A product consisting of hardware only doesn't exist for them
<anon->
but even the software isn't free if they have the baseband processor in there
<anon->
I don't think that technoethical is good either
<anon->
they charge extreme prices for reflashing ebay hardware
<Joerg-Neo900>
let's send them a Samsung S2 and a Neo900, both without any software I.E erased storage, the ask for their assertion which is more appropriate to receive a RYF certification or any other approval
<Joerg-Neo900>
anon-: *nod* that is what I understood they do
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