DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #neo900 to: http://neo900.org | conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/ and http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900 | 2013-11-04 - the day our fundraiser reached its goal | 2014-05-01 360 devices 75k€| 0712 183 ~30k | 0810 300 ~49k | 0914 346 ~56k
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<Oksana> Quuiiieeeettttt......
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<wpwrak> lean back and enjoy the view of people working in silence :)
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<freemangordon_> jonwil: shall we return to PA already? :)
<freemangordon_> or we need more rest
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<wpwrak> hmm, meanwhile, the competition is doing this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nophone-usa/the-new-and-unimproved-nophone
<wpwrak> that'll be damn hard to beat
<jake42> selfie upgrade :-D
<x29a> throwing the nophone after a burglar seems about right
<Wizzup> hah
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<DocScrutinizer05> sorry, still sick
<bencoh> take care
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<kerio> why the hell do people want to fucking pentest with a n900
<kerio> it's got a shitty wifi antenna and barely any ram
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<DocScrutinizer05> a) 99% of self-appointed pentesters are actually "gangsters" trying to exploit vulnerabilities of WLANs wherever they happen to find them
<Humpelstilzchen> lol
<DocScrutinizer05> b) there are pretty few decent true pentest tools (hw)
<DocScrutinizer05> re RAM: a ~6 years ago, I still had a desktop PC as main PC which had half the RAM of Neo900, and I switched to a laptop which had 192MB which been the max it could do, and had less bogomips than N900
<DocScrutinizer05> ok it prolly had better (since faster) swap
<DocScrutinizer05> which enabled it to start up openoffice under KDE in just less than 120s
<DocScrutinizer05> only yast package manager been an unbearable PITA, taking like 24h to build the complete package dependency tree database in "RAM"
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<cacaphony> Will the Neo 900 use the same keyboard as the n900?
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<kerio> cacaphony: the neo900 is a replacement board for your current n900
<kerio> so yes
<kerio> it will use the same keyboard as YOUR n900
<cacaphony> Meh.
<cacaphony> kthx
<DocScrutinizer05> ???
<DocScrutinizer05> you could attach a fullsize USB kbd (or BT) as well ;-)
<cacaphony> iunno the n900 keyboard is quite frustrating to type on for me
<cacaphony> I could, but then it's no longer handheld
<kerio> i find it quite nice, idk
<kerio> i don't have a point of reference for a good mobile keyboard, maybe
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<DocScrutinizer05> I found the N810 kbd somewhat better but with unbearable layout. Most who can compare found N900 kbd superior to N810. And for sure we all hardly can find any other build of similar size kbd on par with N900
<cacaphony> If only I could install Maemo or Debian on the E7
<cacaphony> It'd be the perfect device
<DocScrutinizer05> and our honored GeneralAntilles typed live transcripts of meetings faster on N900 kbd than I could have done on a decent fullsize kbd
<DocScrutinizer05> (E7) well, maybe "perfect" in a very particular metrics
<bencoh> cacaphony: what's frustrating ? the layout ?
<cacaphony> The size and the effort with which the buttons are pressed
<cacaphony> They're clunky
<bencoh> maybe you just need a new domesheet
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<bencoh> (I have no freaking idea where to buy those, but I guess some here might know about it :p)
<DocScrutinizer05> nokia care point
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<bencoh> oh, cool
<DocScrutinizer05> or do you see sth different for that chip's specs?
<bencoh> actually I cant find proper datasheet or info
<DocScrutinizer05> well, do you see any specs for that chip at all? ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> hehe, exactly
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<bencoh> I guess we definitely cant trust this : http://www.crectronic.com/N_view.asp?nid=98
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<DocScrutinizer05> that's due to this part being a risk part par excellance
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<bencoh> ?
<DocScrutinizer05> seems it been built exclusively for Nokia
<bencoh> meh
<bencoh> for n9 ?
<DocScrutinizer05> yes
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<DocScrutinizer05> I don't know of *any* other OMAP3 device with 1GB of RAM
<DocScrutinizer05> Samsung never ever listed that part on their own website
<DocScrutinizer05> neither Micron nor Hynix seem to have built something similar (despite there's another even more obscure chip shown in N9 schematics PCB photo)
<DocScrutinizer05> (might be a Hynix chip maybe, but that's *complete* unobtainium, not even any google hits on it)
* DocScrutinizer05 heads back direction bed
<Oksana> Good sleep
<DocScrutinizer05> sneezing and coughing
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<Oksana> That was netsplit
<Oksana> A small one, though...
<DocScrutinizer05> seen some 2 or 3 points down on usercount (got "hide join/part/nick")
<DocScrutinizer05> still 72
<DocScrutinizer05> o/
<Oksana> But a persistent one. When are they going to return, the six ones who left because of netsplit?
<DocScrutinizer05> six?
<DocScrutinizer05> wow
<Oksana> One of them _whitelogger
<DocScrutinizer05> split: leguin(v6)
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<DocScrutinizer05> _whitelogger: wb
<DocScrutinizer05> whitelogger using IPv6 and those AAAA are not randomizing on DNS, unlike A
<DocScrutinizer05> host -a chat.freenode.net
* DocScrutinizer05 finally head out, coughing
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<Pali> I'm using IPv6 too
<Pali> there are only two AAAA records, but randomizing too
<kerio> you guys spend an ungodly amount of time on irc
<kerio> just figure out the best server for you
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<bencoh> they all fail :]
<bencoh> (hey, it's freenode ;p)
<kerio> i have legiterally 5ms rtt between my bouncer and my freenode server
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<Oksana> About NoPhone: 1). Did their campaign close, already? 2). Isn't that too high amount of money to pay for mass-produced brick in shape of phone? Especially, 7$ for reflective sticker?
<DocScrutinizer05> hey, is that freakin "jolla" battery still unobtainium? Might be a cash cow
<bencoh> werent you supposed to recover ? :p
<DocScrutinizer05> I'm like a child
<Oksana> Is it possible for you to take your IRC client to bed? Then you will fall asleep in front of the screen :-) Armchair is too uncomfortable for that...
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<useretail> that's the reason i decided not to buy jolla
<DocScrutinizer05> yeah, quite annoying
<DocScrutinizer05> "made by NLT" http://www.sznltcn.com/
<DocScrutinizer05> HMM, seems our chinese friends mix and swap chars? NLT != NTL
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway the cell in jolla battery is a SAMSUNG
<DocScrutinizer05> actually SAMSUNG SDI
<DocScrutinizer05> actually ICP515161A
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<DocScrutinizer05> if anybody can use this info: http://www.1688.com/tw/chanpin/-69637035313531363161EFAEB5E7B3D8.html
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