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<number735> hey everyone…i hoping someone here might have a clue why my nanoc watch isn't seeing changes to my Rules file
<number735> nanoc watch runs just fine and for the directories to watch it seems like it's working
<number735> but when i make changes to Rules, it doesn't see those changes and the site isn't recompiled unless I manually re-compile
<number735> any help? anyone? please?
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<ddfreyne> !tell number735 guard-nanoc is recommended instead of nanoc watch now (https://github.com/guard/guard-nanoc)
<number-six> ddfreyne: I'll pass that on when I see number735 here.
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<musicmatze> Hi there nanoc users! :-P
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<Skyr> musicmatze: Hey-ho
<musicmatze> Skyr: Hi there!
<musicmatze> I have a lot of questions to you all, related to static site compilers and so on.
<musicmatze> But not today! Tomorrow, I will have enough time for it.
<Skyr> *g*
<Skyr> musicmatze: You're attending the GPN?
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<musicmatze> Skyr: I wanted to, but had issues with my neck (don't know the right words, mean my backbone).
<musicmatze> So I'm not there this year, sadly.
* Skyr too
<Skyr> Workworkwork :(
<musicmatze> Was so lucky to be able to go to such an event,... but then I visited the hospital and so on ... -.-
<musicmatze> '
<musicmatze> I thought about talking to people about static site compilers all day long. So I posted in google+ as substitude.
* smkelly yawns and comes out of deep hibernation
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<ddfreyne> Hi!
<ddfreyne> Things have been rather quite in #nanoc lately
<ddfreyne> But yeah, partially because I haven't been around much. Hanging out in Berlin instead :)
<ddfreyne> ... and a new nanoc 4.x branch where routing rules don't exist anymore!
<darix> ddfreyne: so how drunk have you been already?
<ddfreyne> Not that drunk... and I haven't been to Berghain yet ;)
<gkarekinian> That's because you need to drink 4 times as much beer as in Belgium, since everything is Pilsner :D
<ddfreyne> gkarekinian: Indeed :)
<darix> gkarekinian: we just do that so ddfreyne gets enough fluids while getting drunks
<darix> -s
<gkarekinian> Haha
<gour> does it make sense to nanoc if one does not speak ruby and therefore better use some python-based generator?
<darix> gour: of course
<darix> because you will learn a very nice language (ruby) in the process.
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<gour> darix: :-)
<gkarekinian> You don't need that much knowledge of Ruby to get it to work
<gour> nanoc seems to be more capable than python ones hwne it comes to non-blog sites?
<ddfreyne> gour: nanoc is intended to be a general solution for all kinds of static sites, not just blogs
ddfreyne changed the topic of #nanoc to: 3.6.4 (may 29th) | web http://nanoc.ws/ | repo http://bit.ly/XE6e3G | issues http://bit.ly/VfXaSV | forum http://ho.io/n-discuss | irclog http://irclog.whitequark.org/nanoc
<gour> ddfreyne: thanks. that's nice to hear
<ddfreyne> New release! 3.6.4!
<ddfreyne> \o/
<gour> how it compares with e.g. middleman?
<ddfreyne> gour: I can't really tell, because I haven't used Middleman
<ddfreyne> (Why would I? I wrote nanoc :P)
<gour> ohh, congrats ddfreyne!!
<ddfreyne> Middleman is another tool that's used fairly often, so you could check it out. Build a small site with both tools and then go with the one you think is best
<gkarekinian> Yay
<darix> gour: there is also jekyll or octopress
<darix> when you want to try out more things
<ddfreyne> You could also do a full comparison of all the SSGs listed here: http://nanoc.ws/about/#similar-projects :D
<gour> darix: isnt's jekyll stalled/dead?
<gour> i saw that list, it's too long and it looks that the best ones are ruby-base 'cause most of the python ones are for just blogs
<darix> gour: it powers github pages. ;)
<ddfreyne> gour: Development picked up recently, and I think there was a major new release lately
<darix> that thing wont die soon
<gour> ohh...interesting
<gkarekinian> Yeah 1.0 was released a couple weeks ago
<gour> otoh, i need something to replace some of my own php sites as well as for clients requiring simpler/smaller sites as well as mockup to show for those wanting their site to be converted into some CMS
<gour> let me check about jekyll revival and octopress
<gour> now i see that jekyll is quite lively
<gour> do jekyll, octopress and nanoc fall into same category, iow. general site generators or the other two are more blog-oriented?
<darix> octopress might be a bit more blog oriented
<darix> it is a set up on top of jekyll
<ddfreyne> Both jekyll and octopress are more oriented towards blogs afaik
<ddfreyne> Octopress definitely, jekyll seems to be too
<gkarekinian> Yup
<gkarekinian> Tons of people use Octopress with the default theme (I do because I'm lazy), but my favorite for regular sites is definitely nanoc
<gour> one of the php site for one non-profit is like a blog where each post is about their public activities and contains image(s) of posters. is it easy to handle such post with nanoc and put images to float left/right, something like this: http://octopress.org/docs/plugins/image-tag/
<gour> still, it's impressive how many importers are available for jekyll
<darix> gour: funny thing
<darix> with some minor tweaks
<darix> you can use all of them for nanoc too!
<gkarekinian> Nice, didn't know the FOSDEM used nanoc
<ddfreyne> gour: Stuff like handling images and floating etc is something you'd do in CSS (and/or HTML) so nanoc doesn't really care about that
<gour> ddfreyne: that's good ;)
<ddfreyne> gkarekinian: It's on the slideshow on http://nanoc.ws/ :)
<ddfreyne> I should probably reorder the slideshow... or maybe make it random.
<gkarekinian> I haven't paid attention to the content on the new homepage, oops :)
<gour> it looks ruby-ones and nanoc are simply different category of static site generators
<gkarekinian> It's really easy to adapt nanoc to whatever you like to use, for instance I like to use haml files containing Markdown
<gour> which markup you recommend for writing content? now i use textile, in python reST is popular...what about nanoc/ruby, markdown?
<ddfreyne> I always use Markdown
<ddfreyne> (with the rdiscount filter, because it's nicely fast)
<gour> thanks
<ddfreyne> Yep, I use that on the nanoc site
<gour> i'll bookmark it to be able to orient myself without ruby knowledge...
<ddfreyne> Or my personal web site: https://github.com/ddfreyne/stoneship-site
* ddfreyne is off to sleep
<ddfreyne> Catch you later!
<gour> ta
<gkarekinian> Good night!
<gour> 'night
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<smkelly> Since the last time I was actually active here, I have moved.
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