<damex>
sunshavi: pine h64 (rev b) has 3gb ram. i think it is the largest one with allwinner
<vagrantc>
so, i've been running linux 5.7-rc5 on a pinebook, and it appears to work, but sometimes after the computer's been idle for a while and the screen blanks, the backlight doesn't turn back on
<sunshavi>
damex: I was not right. perhaps it is time for another soc develop with the community
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<damex>
it is just raspberry pi does it gain. last thingds they did and almost no one pick up - exposed pins 'for poe' and now it is enormous amount of ram (for such sbc) at very little extra cost.
<damex>
i thought there might be other boards that could offer something similar
<sunshavi>
damex: right. You know being mainstream have its advantages. But also openness has its own advantages too.
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<[TheBug]>
damex: what is the important thing you are lacking, memory? There are others who have POE hats or POE solutions that work with their boards -- this isn't something that new because RPi did it..
<[TheBug]>
damex: most vendors don't add over 4Gb because of the actual cost of the chips -- my understanding was for RPi to pull this off they actually had to custom order the 8GB chips specially and its amazing they fit that into a reasonable BOM cost
<[TheBug]>
So they probably took a big chance there ordering and producing without knowing how popular it would really be -- the other vendors don't do not move the same amount of units where it is possible to take a gamble and invest in higher memory when it is possible it could just sit on a shelf and never sell
<damex>
[TheBug]: there is two important things i am lacking - memory and poe (one cable to power and transfer data to the board from switch). 1gb is barely enough considering you want to have agressive caching. i find 4gb to be in a very good spot when you use rpi4. for my use case - i manage to utilize it more efficiently when there is more memory available. 2-4 gb boards is fine but sometime you just need more memory to run something.
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<[TheBug]>
damex: immediately the NanoPi M4 comes to mind to fit that criteria
<[TheBug]>
I believe they have 4Gb and POE
<[TheBug]>
but would have to confirm that as I am going from memory
<[TheBug]>
(noting you need a poe hat I beleive)
<damex>
[TheBug]: i wonder if it is the same poe hat as on raspberry or their own solution...
<damex>
thanks, gonna check it now
<[TheBug]>
I will actually look again cause I am not 100% on that
<[TheBug]>
as well
<[TheBug]>
damex: I may have been wrong about POE it seems, I thought I had read they had a hat for it but am not fiinding it
<damex>
yeah, checked their website and can't find anything about poe neither
<damex>
atleast it has 4gb ram
<[TheBug]>
damex: actually just to give you some thoughts -- for boards that run on 5v2A you could easily buy a POE splitter end that splits a DC jack out for you so you could utilize it for power at the end of the cable - could be an easy sub for having direct POE
<damex>
i tried using something like extra 5xUSB charger or 5v dc psu like meanwell in place of poe. it hurts when you don't have a remote ability to toggle the power of the board and space it takes is suboptimal (plus requires extra wall plug and lots of cables)
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<damex>
i think 150w ubiquiti poe switches and rpi4+poe hat deployments spoiled me
<[TheBug]>
no I get it you have to add levels of complexity -- like I can actually picture a few solutions but in all cases it becomes convoluted as you mention
<[TheBug]>
I mean those splitter cabled arguably suck and wouldn't be super awesome for your use case but I am still thinking using something like that would probably be the closest to just having POE On board -- trying to power by USB and different PSU in your setup just makes toggling a single unit off on all the more harder -- while you would have the extra cables, at least with the splitter you
<[TheBug]>
keep your level of complexity lower
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<[TheBug]>
damex: well if I come across something else that has POE that may fit your requirements and your around here i'll let you know -- I feel like there hasn't to be another board that isn't coming to mind at the moment that could fit that use case
<[TheBug]>
s/hasn't/has
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<damex>
about splitter - i find it pretty hard to find something good (branded, properly tested and that has a decent quality). most decent one i found is from 'uctronics' - sold by tons of other 'stores/brands' that actually ship you uctrons splitter.
<damex>
it has to be an active one since you get 48v or 54v on input (if active poe or 24v if passive).
<damex>
[TheBug]: thanks, hopefully something comes up :)
<damex>
actually tplink has one but its size... its like two rpi-like boards stacked on top of each other :/