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<wens> libv: you using RAW passthrough or YUV/RGB444?
<wens> AFAICT it can only do planar
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<libv> raw is single or (some form of) dual channel only
<libv> i went through all possible combinations with raw.
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<grosso> anyone know if original cedarX h.264 encoder support changing settings on the fly?
<KotCzarny> i suspect answer is 'NO'
<KotCzarny> see many reports of users hitting on netflix/youtube stopping working after ~30s
<KotCzarny> erm, you asked about encoder, sorry for the noise
<KotCzarny> but since they couldnt even make decoder work, i wont expect such advanced feature in encoder neither
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<grosso> it seems to work when I call IoCtrl VENC_SET_ENC_INFO_CMD in the middle of encoding... no error message, it continues delivering encoded frames, and I see that resolution has changed, but...
<grosso> I can't make it to re-generate extradata (private_data on cedarx) so my player can't play that video stream anymore
<grosso> is there any documentation on that original h264 encoder?
<KotCzarny> only some regs i think
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<montjoie> hello I see on wiki that opi3 can use opi1+ uboot, but I get no output with it
<montjoie> without the sdcard the "default" uboot from somewhere start
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<wens> paulk-leonov: the last bcm2835-unicam submission was from 2017 AFAICT
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<paulk-leonov> wens: I think their 4.19 tree has an updated version https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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<paulk-leonov> looks like it hasn't evolved much indeed
<paulk-leonov> not sure they are very concerned about it
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<wens> I guess not. I did notice the new v4l2 bcm2835-codec in there though
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<libv> csi1 just captured full hd planar rgb for me, with fully correct data
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<wens> congrats
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<SopaXorzTaker> I got Xorg and Matchbox running (and the touchscreen too)!
<SopaXorzTaker> Don't worry, I made sure to back up the buildroot tree.
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<KotCzarny> it was slow today
<miasma> people comparing the boards with rpi4 ?
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<KotCzarny> but i think it's not the site
<KotCzarny> but cloudfront or whatever it's called
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<bshah> Do anyone know which mali kernel module I should use with Pine H64? When we tried to use the mali-midgard driver I get : [ 240.071102] mali 1800000.gpu: Unknown GPU ID 30810004
<bshah> IIUC correct ID should be : 7200001 right
<bshah> ?
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<MoeIcenowy> RPi4 is really a critical hit to Allwinner SBCs
<MoeIcenowy> I don't think people now will accept All53Winner devices >$30
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<willmore> MoeIcenowy, they never should have. :)
<libv> oshw and full open source software are reasons to still use allwinner
<libv> rpi foundation has not exactly been the most open these past 7 years
<willmore> libv, listening to their fans, you'd think they invented open source.
<libv> willmore: i was the one who pointed out that their 2012 claim of an open source gpu driver was full of it
<libv> i know what those religious idiots are capable of
<libv> i also had to bring up an rpi remotely with mainline in the summer of 2017
<willmore> I think I remember such a discussion over at phoronix.
<libv> and know how limited in use and width the rpi software ecosystem really is
<libv> blind religious idiocy, no content
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<libv> there's a reason we are developing our own hdmi input board for the olimex lime2
<libv> for fosdem
<libv> and not for rpi, or any other SoC families
<KotCzarny> but.. support!
<KotCzarny> ;)
<libv> from whom?
<libv> that "community"?
<libv> if you think i am evil and nasty, think again
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<willmore> KotCzarny, yeah, I never understood what they meant by 'community'. Do they mean a BBS forum where they censor the posts to fit their agenda?
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<KotCzarny> i know, a20/h3 might be between few chips that 'just work with vanilla mainline linux'
<libv> it's like apple zealots who have way less cash and way more free time, and then let that stew for 7 years
<KotCzarny> i think their 'support' means there are few gpio libs and video decoding blobs that play things
<fALSO> i dont like that about the RPI
<libv> also, what happened with their original claim to get kids programming assembler again?
<fALSO> the hype around it
<libv> all the good bits were hidden in the videocore, and they never did try to support making those bits open
<KotCzarny> falso: one thing for sure, they keep the price down low enough to generate 'wow' around the world
<fALSO> yes
<libv> all they did is cover up their biggest mistake
<fALSO> their "price" is always "sketchy"
<fALSO> like the rpi mini for 5$
<fALSO> lol
<libv> claiming that their message box opengl driver is actually a driver
<fALSO> im finding it weird that no one that already got the boards did a emulator test of them
<fALSO> wanted to test N64 emulation :-P
<fALSO> they say the CPU is much more powerfull
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<montjoie> definitive reason why rpi4 is bad, no crypto accelerator. Now I can ran away...
<fALSO> hehe
<KotCzarny> seriously?
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<willmore> montjoie, not even the processor extensions.
<KotCzarny> in todays age?
<libv> willmore: could they not implement that in the blob? ;p
<willmore> Yeah, an XU4 beats it on crypto.
<fALSO> in rpi5 they will invent that
<fALSO> as apple invents stuff
<fALSO> :-P
<willmore> libv, lol.
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<miasma> KotCzarny: the support in the context of rpi/arduino means that the forums are all of noobs with 1-12 months of experience with computers. and they can help the other noobs find the gui tools for burning disk images on sd
<miasma> they might also have instructable tutorials explaining how you can use the full power of the rpi gpio with the help of the high performance arduino libraries ported to rpi
<miasma> or maybe even tutorials for building mission critical low-latency embedded IoT gateways using MIT Scratch or node.js + electron
<fALSO> lol eletron
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<libv> i think we should be glad that the rpi exists
<libv> we would not have had the cubieboard without it
<libv> and without the cubieboard none of the other boards would've existed
<libv> secondly
<ElBarto> beagleboard existed before the rpi no ?
<libv> this way, the worst of the worst, stay far away from poisoning things like linux-sunxi
<libv> ElBarto: yeah, and the pandaboard
<libv> ElBarto: but it was not seen as a big or useful market
<ElBarto> true
<libv> and the price was several times higher
<mru> beagleboard came out in 2008 iirc
<mru> rpi 1 was utter crap
<mru> but cheap
<libv> original beagleboard was 125usd in 2008, original pandaboard was a whopping 174 in 2011
<mru> beaglebone was much cheaper
<KotCzarny> and opi0 was ~7usd in 2016
<KotCzarny> progress
<libv> 89 in october 2011
<libv> the rpi was the iphone of the smartphones and the ipad of the tablets
<libv> and that immediately says something about its userbase
<ElBarto> eh, I use an iphone :)
<libv> well... :)
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<libv> ElBarto: at least you made it here ;)
<ElBarto> yeah on a linux channel, how weird is that for a FreeBSD commiter :P
<libv> :)
<libv> ElBarto: in case it isn't clear, freebsd info can also live in the sunxi wiki
<ElBarto> oh yeah I think I've put some years ago, I'm just really bad at documentation, I can't even have our wiki up to date for arm stuff ..
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<lvrp16> you can't really build a good board for less than $12 USD, i've been trying but unless a soc vendor decides to package in 512MB or 1GB DDR or do pop, anything less than $12 for 4 cores is a hack
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<lvrp16> about 100 RMB
<lvrp16> It's the little things that they skip on like ESDs, proper DC DC, fuses
<lvrp16> the stuff that you don't realize you need until odd behavior starts occurring
<rellla> linux-sunxi.org is terribly slow atm. iirc i had a 502 error two days ago...
<rellla> libv ^^ :)
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<libv> it is slow, but the system load is only around 1
<mru> slow is being generous
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<mru> continental drift will bring the entire server here before the data has transferred over the internet at that rate
<DuClare> You want speed, you buy a pigeon
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<mru> with those new 1TB uSD cards, pigeon bandwidth is starting to get quite decent
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<fALSO> lol
<fALSO> going to play some doom2 online ;-P
<libv> since when have these issues been seen?
<libv> i do not recall seeing this being flagged before, but there were two festivals in between, so perhaps i was not in a mood to care
<libv> hrm, the img guy has not been seen for a while now
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<rellla> libv: for me it was 2 days ago iirc.
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<miasma> hmm, when did people order those new rpi4 boards? i saw someone mentioned cytron.io. but they ship from singapore? do they really ship in 1-2 days?
<libv> meh
<libv> this seems some recursion in the mediawiki php code
<miasma> recursion in php :S
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<willmore> miasma, I assume anyone who has a 4 at this point is because the Foundation chose for their distributers to give them one.
<kilobyte> hah, that sure makes the reviews unbiased
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