<lurchi_>
if you just need a few of these, you are better off when you just buy the ones you really need
<lurchi_>
most ones you can buy individually on ebay, ali, ...
<lurchi_>
if you just want to play, get a breadboard, jumper wires, and the sensors and stuff you are interested in
<ullbeking>
lurchi_, thank you for all the great advice. this is fabulous.
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<KotCzarny>
ullbeking: 1/ class X doesnt mean anything (unless you choose class A1 or A2)
<KotCzarny>
2/ you want high random 4k r/w iops, sequential speed comes second
<KotCzarny>
3/ samsung evo+/pro+ are recommended
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<KotCzarny>
4/ there are thorough discussions about that topic on armbian forums
<ullbeking>
KotCzarny: re: 4/, so it's a perpetual topic of discussion over there, then? ;-)
<KotCzarny>
yup
<ullbeking>
thanks for this advice
<KotCzarny>
one of the few topics that come as a boomerang
<ullbeking>
i can imagine
<KotCzarny>
powering and heat being others
<ullbeking>
probably one topic of discussion is value, i.e., the storage is far more expensive than the device itself, for example...?
<KotCzarny>
yes
<KotCzarny>
:)
<ullbeking>
mmm
<ullbeking>
that's what got me thinking in the first place
<ullbeking>
that
<KotCzarny>
but what can you expect for ~10usd boards?
<ullbeking>
and the fact that i wasn't sure if the aliexpress vendors were selling legit tf cards
<KotCzarny>
yup. better to buy local and return if card is fishy
<ullbeking>
KotCzarny: well, i'm pretty excited to get mine working finally and see what it's capable of
<ullbeking>
ooh, yeah i just checked my usual vendor of memory cards. the pro plus series is significantly more expensive than the evo plus, but otherwise evo plus is looking good
<ullbeking>
64 GB for £25, not too bad
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<ullbeking>
KotCzarny: why don't you like the #orangepi channel?
<KotCzarny>
too offtopic
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<fixmer>
hi!
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<KotCzarny>
heh
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<kilobyte>
ullbeking: unless you use your OPis with no other machines nearby, it's far better to give them only minimal SD cards and put everything but the system on NBD
<kilobyte>
ullbeking: drastically faster with GbE, adequate with 100E/WiFi
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<pmpp>
kilobyte: +1 good over usb too, but aoe is faster than nbd because no tcp payload
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<kilobyte>
pmpp: never used it, but is the tcp overhead even non-theoretical in real usage?
<pmpp>
nbd has to go trough all network stack, while aoe is at ethernet frame layer
<pmpp>
non routable but way faster
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<kilobyte>
tcp is pretty optimized (zero-copy most of the time), and ethernet frame only means it doesn't work in any setup but directly attached link unless you muck with bridging (or tunnel it inside a higher-level protocol :p)
<kilobyte>
lemme test it, though -- need to recompile the kernel with AOE first
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<pmpp>
kilobyte: any chance you know any standalone nbd server for win32 that can run userspace ?
<kilobyte>
pmpp: sorry, no idea. Teh googles say https://github.com/jeffbryner/NBDServer but I've never used that (nor do I have a working install of Windows outside a VM...).
<pmpp>
that is worth a try thx for the link , i was searching with no luck in qemu ports
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<jmcneill>
Hi! Has anybody ever tried booting a Pine64 (or any A64 for that matter) with a 32-bit kernel?