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<MoeIcenowy> rellla: I think libvdpau-sunxi should implement some modes that decode by cedar but not to display it using disp
<MoeIcenowy> for example, using OpenGL ES or just X11 output
<MoeIcenowy> mainline u-boot help
<MoeIcenowy> dts/Makefile:27: recipe for target 'arch/arm/dts/sun8i-a33-aoson-m751s.dtb' failed
<MoeIcenowy> there is a arch/arm/dts/sun8i-a33-aoson-m751s.dts
<MoeIcenowy> (I wrote it
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<wens> i'm ordering a cubietruck plus (a83 based)
<MoeIcenowy> Ohh I don't think aoson m751s needs a specified uboot config and dts
<MoeIcenowy> as q8_800x480 works fine
<wens> most tablets are based on the reference design, so the q8 dts / config should work most of the time :)
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<MoeIcenowy> wens: oh
<MoeIcenowy> although the out model of m751s is not q8-like
<MoeIcenowy> It has all interfacess and buttons in only one side
<MoeIcenowy> In addition
<MoeIcenowy> I'm trying to use mainline uboot to boot lichee kernel
<MoeIcenowy> I used the command to boot a legacy kernel on linux-sunxi.org
<MoeIcenowy> but failed
<MoeIcenowy> (my uImage is 8M
<MoeIcenowy> I choose CONFIG_OLD_SUNXI_KERNEL_COMPAT=y
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<vishnup> wens: great, they should send you one!
<wens> vishnup: nah, just ordered one online
<wens> vishnup: otoh, you should ask for one, as you're actively working on a83
<vishnup> wens: okie, I've Bananapi-m3 and allwinner devboard + Onda 989 air, enought a83 devices ;)
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<vishnup> wens: I need more time now.
<wens> hmm, or i could ask for one and send it to one of the boot farms
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: what error you're getting while booting older kernel?
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: there may be problem with Machine ID if it got stuck at "starting kernel..."
<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: my device has no UART
<MoeIcenowy> I used LCD
<MoeIcenowy> I think it may be machine id error
<MoeIcenowy> but I have enabled old kernel workaround
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<MoeIcenowy> mripard: ping
<MoeIcenowy> How can make LCD work on A33 ?
<MoeIcenowy> I've built a mainline on a SD card
<MoeIcenowy> mainline uboot
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<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: are you using q8_a33_tablet_800x480_defconfig ?
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<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: I have q8 a33 tablet, LCD is working.
<vishnup> I think there might be different LCD related pins for your tablet.
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: also, you can use microSD breatout board for UART
<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: boot device is sd
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: If you have USB OTG cable you san boot using FEL.
<MoeIcenowy> a33 has no boot1
<MoeIcenowy> @vishnup
<vishnup> mainline u-boot has SPL support for A33.
<vishnup> don't need boot1
<MoeIcenowy> direct write spl into sram?
<vishnup> Yes.
<MoeIcenowy> then how to load uboot?
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: I've copied commands I follow for u-boot here http://pastebin.com/EQQkfi6e
<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: thc
<MoeIcenowy> thx
<MoeIcenowy> But I found that my sunxi-tools is quite olf
<MoeIcenowy> old
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: you can get new one ;)
<MoeIcenowy> i'm now trying to get internet access and update it
<MoeIcenowy> I may be the first one who use an A33 device with GNU/Linux in a productive position
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: internet access! how're you connected to irc ?
<MoeIcenowy> Mobile data
<vishnup> :), okie, how old is sunxi-tools?
<MoeIcenowy> My laptop has no network access
<MoeIcenowy> June 2015
<vishnup> It should work
<MoeIcenowy> no any code contains info about a33
<MoeIcenowy> except meminfo.c
<wens> wow... checkpatch gives a bunch of deprecated warnings with perl 5.22...
<vishnup> wens: still using perl 5.18 time to upgrade :)
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<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: I succeeded to boot a uboot via usb
<vishnup> :)
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: LCD working ?
<MoeIcenowy> working
<MoeIcenowy> I have tried to get uboot working on a sd boot
<MoeIcenowy> but I cannot load legacy lichee kernel now
<vishnup> :), get rid of sd boot problem then
<MoeIcenowy> but I'm just diagnosting the problem of mainline kernel booting
<MoeIcenowy> not mainline
<MoeIcenowy> legacy
<MoeIcenowy> how can I get a sd breakout
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<vishnup> I would be great if you get familiar with sunxi wiki, and search, get info from there before firing questions here.
<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: I am not able to make one by myself
<MoeIcenowy> my hardware ability is poor
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<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: you can order ready made. connect RX and TX of UART to USB connector to breakout board.
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<MoeIcenowy> I have a uart2usb
<MoeIcenowy> (and I have an arduino leonardo
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: answers to most of the questions you asked here are there on wiki.
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: if you've lcd working, you don't need microsd breakout board.
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<MoeIcenowy> vishnup: thx, I found these breakouts on taobao.
<MoeIcenowy> they're named usd breakouts
<vishnup> MoeIcenowy: great.
<MoeIcenowy> Why is reading kernel from SD Card so slow by uboot?
<MoeIcenowy> I used a UHS-3 card
<MoeIcenowy> but only get 1MB/s
<KotCzarny> iops ?
<KotCzarny> without readahead?
<wens> u-boot is probably only running it at 400 khz
<MoeIcenowy> oh?
<wens> that said, mainline only runs up to 50 mhz sdr
<wens> uhs-1 support is non-existent, mostly because boards don't support it
<MoeIcenowy> a mainline uboot costs me 10s to boot the kernel (but now cannot boot it)
<MoeIcenowy> but the lichee uboot takes 2s to get into linux fbcon
<MoeIcenowy> 10s is enough for X server to start (I use systemd
<KotCzarny> systemd is evil
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: why
<KotCzarny> for a start
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<KotCzarny> it does too many thing and most of them doing badly
<KotCzarny> when done with that page see the links at the bottom
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<rellla> MoeIcenowy: you mean dropping display support or just doing a separate lib?
<MoeIcenowy> rellla: I mean changable display support
<MoeIcenowy> run-time switch
<MoeIcenowy> for example
<rellla> What modes can we do? sunxi disp as is, opengles within app, ....?
<MoeIcenowy> 3. interact with xf86-video-fbturbo/armsoc
<MoeIcenowy> for some small screens
<MoeIcenowy> e.g. my 800x480 q8 tablet
<MoeIcenowy> software blit to fb via neon is not a problem
<rellla> And how can this be switchable the easiest way?
<MoeIcenowy> CEDAR_OUT=disp mpv blabla
<MoeIcenowy> or acquire from X server
<rellla> jemk, ssvb ^
<MoeIcenowy> like how VDPAU_DRIVER is acquired
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<jemk> feel free to add support for that ;)
<rellla> In the end we need different ways for disp, mem alloc and a few different ve bits to support most socs...
<jemk> but do you have a good reason not to use disp? the battery drain will be much higher with neon on your tablet
<MoeIcenowy> can drm
<MoeIcenowy> can kms disp give a userspace interface for layers?
<wens> what's the usage of disp for vpu anyway?
<MoeIcenowy> vpu itself do not use disp
<jemk> disp is the most efficient way to display yuv images, of course it has its limitations
<MoeIcenowy> In fact
<MoeIcenowy> we are now wasting sunxi-disp
<MoeIcenowy> as it is a specially-designed architecture
<MoeIcenowy> it works perfectly as a android hwcomposer
<MoeIcenowy> aw is also simplifying it's apu
<MoeIcenowy> api
<MoeIcenowy> for example
<MoeIcenowy> there's no layer_id manager in a33 disp driver
<MoeIcenowy> so I hardcoded 1 in sunxi_disp1_5
<MoeIcenowy> (0 is for /dev/fb0 by default
<MoeIcenowy> We'd design a proper interface while mainlineizing
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<wens> the display hardware is mostly the same before h3, so mripard's KMS driver should be able to support it with some work
<MoeIcenowy> yep
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<topi`> I booted newest armbian with 4.2.3 kernel on a Bananapi (lemaker)
<topi`> things work OK, except no sound with mplayer. Alsamixer says No such file or directory
<topi`> dmesg|grep -i audio produces nothing of interest. So no audio driver module loaded?
<KotCzarny> if you've looked at the page with downloads it clearly states: no audio with mainline (4.2)
<topi`> oh, that's why :)
<KotCzarny> but i think it's done in 4.4/4.5
<topi`> anyway, mplayer is not very useful since it struggles to maintain frame rates even at smaller video sizes like 640x480
<KotCzarny> so you might compile it yourself
<MoeIcenowy> A7 is weak
<topi`> yeah, mplayer is using x11 output and swscaler to do YUV conversion
<topi`> not optimal
<MoeIcenowy> you may need to wait for a long time
<MoeIcenowy> for VE driver
<KotCzarny> much conversion, such heat
<topi`> yeah, as a media box this isn't going to replace the RPi
<MoeIcenowy> (A open-sourced libvdpau driver is available for sunxi-3.4
<MoeIcenowy> Use current mainline kernel on sunxi to gain multimedia functions is not a wise choice
<topi`> I guess all Allwinner chips suffer from the same problems wrt video playback (at least if you want to use recent kernels)
<MoeIcenowy> recent mainline kernels have many components in WIP or Left to be done status
<KotCzarny> i use mine as a router/fw/audio, i love my 3watt box
<KotCzarny> (ah yes, and as a nas/cloud too)
<MoeIcenowy> One of my A33 tablets now works as a Wifi-Wifi router (or to be name as a relay)
<MoeIcenowy> It has a rtl8723bs which has a sunxi driver that can simulate 2 cards
<topi`> this A20 is really good for NAS - I get 103MB/s reads from my 2.5" HDD
<KotCzarny> yes, but you must count network throughput too
<MoeIcenowy> Your HDD is also very good...
<KotCzarny> as both eat cpu
<MoeIcenowy> My laptop's HDD can only get 60MB/s
<KotCzarny> i've connected 3.5" hdd to mine (3TB)
<KotCzarny> also ~100M/s
<KotCzarny> at least locally, didnt test network performance yet
<topi`> write at 34 MB/s, I wonder why
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<KotCzarny> topi, a20
<topi`> this is a brand new 1 TB nas disk from WD (WD Red) 2.5"
<KotCzarny> that's why
<topi`> funny that writes are so much slower than reads
<KotCzarny> all a10/a20 have this kind of write performance
<topi`> ok
<KotCzarny> with some tweaking you can go up to ~50
<topi`> do I need to switch to "performance" cpu sched?
<KotCzarny> see performance tweaks chapter
<KotCzarny> in general you have to free cpu from doing other things
<KotCzarny> try: echo 2 >/proc/irq/$(awk -F":" '/sw_ahci/ {print $1}' </proc/interrupts|tr -d ' ')/smp_affinity
<KotCzarny> for starters
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<topi`> what does the "2" mean? I'd understand "0" and "1" for cpus #0 and #1 respectively
<mripard> topi`: it's a bitmask, it's actualy 0b10
<mripard> => all the interrupts on the CPU 1
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<topi`> ok
<plaes> wow.. display engine driver for H3 submitted
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<wens> plaes: it's a not-so-clean cleanup of allwinner code :p
<plaes> it's a start :)
<plaes> btw, I was going to bug you about not submitting the H3 PSCI stuff into linux-arm ML, but then found out it was for u-boot :P
<topi`> there's an A64 based board coming from Olimex, does it share parts with H3?
<topi`> like display engine
<mripard> topi`: yes
<mripard> from a quick look, it's an H3 with armv8 cores
<mripard> wens: the worst part is the supposed license issues :/
<MoeIcenowy> mripard: hi
<mripard> the not so clean part can be solved
<MoeIcenowy> Do your A33 mainline disp experiment succeed
<mripard> even if it's under-documened, and we end up with a lot of magical writes , we can always merge it in staging
<MoeIcenowy> But it seems that little linux-sunxi code enter staging?
<MoeIcenowy> @mripard
<mripard> but we can't do anything about the license
<mripard> if it's not GPL (or compatible with it), we can't merge it
<mripard> MoeIcenowy: not yet, I'm currently working on it
<mripard> and there's nothing in staging because we never had anything to put there
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<vishnup> mripard: how many displays we can connect if we have KMS working?
<mripard> it depends on the SoC
<vishnup> mripard: for CHIP?
<mripard> you can have only one
<wens> it's probably 2 or 3 (1 and 1+1 mirroring?)
<wens> cubieboard5 has mipi to dp converter, and hsic for usb hub, both interesting and unseen on allwinner boards
<vishnup> mripard: is it R8 limitation? or CHIP board have only one connector ? ;)
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<mripard> wens: the A13 has only one video pipeline
<mripard> vishnup: from the SoC
<vishnup> okei
<mripard> on the other hand, on the A10, A20 and so one, you could have two displays connected at once
<mripard> but my code doesn't support it so far
<TheLinuxBug> <topi`> write at 34 MB/s, I wonder why <-- this is normal under most tweaked conditions I get 45M/s write (but alwasy averages in the 35-40M/s ranges for extended writes) though generally this isn't a problem because in A20 the nic is bound to single core so you can only see throughput of about 50M/sec on the gigabit anyhow, therefore your max write over network would always be about 50M/sec anyways. In short writes thought I saw 45M/sec (the max)
<TheLinuxBug> s/thought/though
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<TheLinuxBug> I have a pretty decent little NAS going with 5x2TB on a SYBA PM/RAID card and get pretty much max performance of SATA With my tweak on the array
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<TheLinuxBug> if you want to compare notes your welcome to pm and I can share what I use
<vishnup> mripard: is it possible to have two OSes running on two different displays with one HYP ?
<mripard> I guess, but the virtualization is not really my thing
<vishnup> mripard: okie, just asked for info.
<vishnup> mripard: I hope, you'll apply a83 patches ;). I'll send more this week, may be including axp81x
<vishnup> S/apply/pickup
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<wens> mripard will probably queue them, but won't be published until after next -rc1
<wens> in the meantime you might need to keep track yourself
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<mripard> vishnup: I hope so too :)
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<mripard> vishnup: if the only comment is about the ranges in chosen, I'll remove it when I'll apply the patch
<vishnup> :) thanks, otherwise, I'll correct in next patch series.
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<wens> also a typo in one of the commit logs
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<MoeIcenowy> @ssvb @rellla
<MoeIcenowy> I found that libva seems to have a decoding and displaying divided framework
<MoeIcenowy> VO: [opengl] 1280x720 vaapi
<MoeIcenowy> (in mpv output
<KotCzarny> hmm, anyone tried firefox on a20 based device? is it working well?
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<rellla> MoeIcenowy: src?
<MoeIcenowy> rellla: what src?
<MoeIcenowy> I only say about the framework
<rellla> Ok
<MoeIcenowy> It's only an idea
<MoeIcenowy> src of libva is easy to get on fd.o
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<KotCzarny> Notice: Undefined property: CologneBlueTemplate::$mWatchLinkNum in /srv/http/sunxi/linux-sunxi.org/wiki/includes/SkinLegacy.php on line 637
<libv> KotCzarny: ?
<KotCzarny> libv: got this when trying different themes
<topi`> php is buggy?
<topi`> TheLinuxBug: I'm thinking I should start writing a series of blog posts about my little NAS project ;) actually, it's a project to replace the AWS S3 service
<topi`> the AWS S3 is costing me money every month, so I want to take a DIY approach to this, and I have one public IP at a server colocation facility :)
<topi`> wow, got 112 MB/s off a HDD, read 8 gigabytes
<topi`> I just wonder how the writes can be so much slower
<topi`> they did something odd with the internal A20 buses
<KotCzarny> keep in mind it will be less when doing network/decoding at the same time
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<KotCzarny> and if you throw encryption in the mix
<KotCzarny> also, observe cpu/regulator temperature
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<topi`> encryption without AArch64 is an exercise in futility
<KotCzarny> topi`: why, for low bandwidth ~1MB/s its feasible
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<topi`> just a waste of precious cpu cycles )
<topi`> ;)
<KotCzarny> so you just run world accessible nfs? ;)
<topi`> hehe
<topi`> on my setup, the bananapi nodes would be directly connected to a "front machine" that actually serves the network
<KotCzarny> for all my needs sshfs (or ssh+rsync) is enough for my cloud needs
<topi`> so no need to encryption there, since it's physically separate
<topi`> I'm thinking of getting a Geekbox as the front machine, since I need AArch64 for proper AES128 performance
<KotCzarny> well, there are hwcrypto packages in the works
<KotCzarny> even for older aw
<topi`> I want to test out the 8-core rk3368 :)
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<topi`> although I believe it's slower than the rk3288
<topi`> there are very impressive rk3288-based boards out there, like the Radxa Rock 2
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<dizz74> hi friends
<dizz74> can you help me - where i can download source codes(kernel) for AllWinner R16?
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