<libv>
i'm going to get shafted on my first aliexpress purchase :(
<libv>
and banana pi...
<libv>
i am really saddened that that thing actually sells
<libv>
it only sells due to the name and the vague attempt to look the same
<libv>
not because it is a useful product
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<Turl>
libv: you could say roughly the same about the rpi itself :p
<libv>
Turl: at least the rpi made the market and did the marketing
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<rds_>
Turl: I wonder which of these "dev" boards are actually useful! The Mele seems to be the best for me. Maybe the A80, will change everything. :-)
<wens>
mripard_: i still have the patch file i sent, if you need it
<libv>
heh, 16 for pll divider is totally acceptable
<libv>
but 640x480 on vga is not playing ball yet :(
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<Turl>
rds_: it really depends on what you want to do
<Turl>
for home server kind of stuff, the mele is pretty good because it's a sharp looking black box :)
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<libv>
rds_: just look for something with a good formfactor
<libv>
something that suits your needs
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<bbrezillon>
quitte_: the reason to move to a 3.16 kernel -> because I won't/can't backport my v4 work on a 3.13 kernel
<bbrezillon>
quitte_: how about using buildroot ?
<bbrezillon>
quitte_: it's pretty straightforward
<bbrezillon>
quitte_: moreover buildroot support building the last mainline kernels and can generate UBI images
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<akaizen>
how do i upload the A31 sdk to dl.linux-sunxi.org?
<wens>
uploading mine
<wens>
hmm, can anyone with sudo create a 'merrii' directory and give me permissions?
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<wens>
or maybe just chmod 1777 the whole dl directory
<wens>
also have some docs to upload
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<oliv3r>
does anybody else have an A33 device?
<wens>
oliv3r: any chance you can ask eva if they have an updated version of a23 manual?
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<oliv3r>
wens: i can ask :)
<oliv3r>
i have received eva's A33 tablet!
<hramrach>
wut is a33?
<hramrach>
should I even be interested?
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<oliv3r>
quad core with mali
<oliv3r>
(i think it's mali, i haven't checked yet)
<oliv3r>
our wiki says it is mali400
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<hramrach>
sounds nice
<wens>
oliv3r: don't think anyone else has it
<wens>
while you're at it, some a33 docs would be nice too :)
<hramrach>
still adding more cores kinda does not make the device more powerful
<hramrach>
2 cores is much better than 1 but then any gains from more cores are diminishing unless you also add RAM bandwidth or some features
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<oliv3r>
wens: yeah i first thanked for the a33 sample, on her reply, I'll ask for docs, sdks' etc
<ddc>
bbrezillon: I don't know if there is an easy way to auto-detect the Max onfi mode without going through a wasteful cycles of read reties
<bbrezillon>
ddc: actually that's exactly what he suggested => add it to the nand_ids table
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<bbrezillon>
ddc: to avoid the fastidious work of specifying the correct (max supported) ONFI timing for each and every new board
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<bbrezillon>
ddc: I'm not in favor of timing auto detection either
<bbrezillon>
ddc: because some commands might work with a given timing mode and other won't
<ddc>
bbrezillon: then could this be left to u-boot or other boot-loaders to handle
<bbrezillon>
ddc: I don't like this idea
<bbrezillon>
ddc: in general I think the kernel should not rely on things being done in the bootloader
<bbrezillon>
ddc: there are some exception though
<bbrezillon>
ddc: BTW, what's bothering you with the current approach ?
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<ddc>
bbrezillon: I'm not really bothered but in my opinion you are more likely to get your driver accepted
<ddc>
without this
<ddc>
bbrezillon: I know I've spent a great time and efforts on this but I guess it should be opened for more debate and get more feedback
<bbrezillon>
ddc: I totally agree
<ddc>
bbrezillon: :-)
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<bbrezillon>
ddc: and answering to my proposals on the ML would help getting more feedback from other people
<bbrezillon>
ddc: just propose what you suggested here
<bbrezillon>
ddc: share your concerns
<bbrezillon>
ddc: ...
<ddc>
np
<bbrezillon>
ddc: I don't ask you to agree with me, just to show your interest in these patches (or at least in the features they bring) ;-)
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<libv>
oliv3r: so what about the GPL violations?
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<oliv3r>
libv: yeah probably a million again
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<oliv3r>
but those get silently ignored as always
<libv>
still, that's not good
<libv>
as one of those violations is making us destroy nand contents
<oliv3r>
incompatibility between their latest nand code and ours
<oliv3r>
i know
<oliv3r>
i'll persue it again
<oliv3r>
i asked for the sdk first
<oliv3r>
then when i have that, i can say that there's violations with it
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<longsleep>
Hi folks, whats the status of the sunxi pwm mainline effort? I got a patch for the driver and wondering where to submit it.
<oliv3r>
longsleep: depends, did you read the mainling_effort wikipage?
<wens>
a 3rd version, huh?
<oliv3r>
my point exactly :)
<longsleep>
oliv3r: sure - that way i found the patch to lkml which i based on - but not all of pwm has been merged mainline and no other patch was sent since april.
<oliv3r>
well step one is to contact the developer and find out why he hasn't sent in the rest :)
<longsleep>
oliv3r: Yeah i did send email to Alexandre Belloni - but i wonder if there is some repository where this stuff is developed.
<oliv3r>
step 2 would be to collaborate with him to finish what he started :)
<oliv3r>
longsleep: what do you mean?
<longsleep>
oliv3r: Well i expected to find a git repository where i could just send a pull request to. Or some information why nothing was done since April. I know that most work on that is done by volunteers - so i am asking here what do you think is the best way to move forward.
<oliv3r>
git.kernel.org is the repo most patches are written against, there's sunxi-next, where all the new patches get accumlated I belive, but submitting patches is done soley via the ML
<longsleep>
oliv3r: I have some questions on the mtd driver too for that matter :)
<oliv3r>
longsleep: cool! bbrezillon hangs out around here, or on the ML
<oliv3r>
bbrezillon: ^
<longsleep>
oliv3r: yeah - i expected to find the pwm patch in sunxi-next - but it is not.
<bbrezillon>
longsleep: yep, ask them
<longsleep>
bbrezillon: oh very nice thanks
<oliv3r>
longsleep: well it wasn't accepted yet was it
<longsleep>
oliv3r: not to mainline yes - but shouldnt it be in sunxi-next first?
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<longsleep>
bbrezillon: I got your latest mtd driver running on a cubietruck with current mainline kernel head. Mtd driver seems to work fine, i can flash stuff and read stuff from it. But i fail to mount jffs2 .. so the question is did you try that and is it supposed to work?
<oliv3r>
longsleep: what happens is, once a patch is sent to the mainline ML, it gets acked, once acked, it gets merged into sunxi-next
<oliv3r>
longsleep: do you have a repo with your patches somewhere?
<dack>
How do I find the "usbc to which your realtek usb wireless chip is attached"
<dack>
I have linux running and am able to run lsusb... is that info in there?
<dack>
is usbc the class number?
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<libv>
dack: take the second
<libv>
try it
<libv>
it is marked as used and it is not type 2 (otg)
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<dack>
libv: lsusb says the class number is 0, but that doesn't seem to work. The wiki page suggests adding a firmware, but the module doesn't list that firmware as something it needs to load.
<dack>
libv: I get 8188eu module loading, but nothing in ifconfig
<wens>
yikes, just noticed my site url on cnx-soft
<longsleep>
whops sorry
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<skoperst>
"Allwinner develop their own SDK (Linux,U-boot, etc..) in house, and release a vendor tree to direct customers"
<skoperst>
I guess they are also talking about the Android SDK. Is it the same one cubie is publishing for download(the whole system .tar.gz'ed)?
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<wens>
most vendors start that way
<longsleep>
bbrezillon: So i got UBI now, but seems like it thinks that bad blocks are not supported. So it fails formatting because this NAND has bad blocks.
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<skoperst>
wens: does those vendors publish this SDK?
<longsleep>
bbrezillon: Works like a charm with 1.5.1 !
<longsleep>
bbrezillon: UBI device number 0, total 3670 LEBs (7636418560 bytes, 7.1 GiB), available 3666 LEBs (7628095488 bytes, 7.1 GiB), LEB size 2080768 bytes (2.0 MiB)
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<bbrezillon>
longsleep: great! you can thank who the same problem a few days ago ;-)
<bbrezillon>
longsleep: great! you can thank ddc who had the same problem a few days ago ;-)
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<quitte>
I'm having trouble getting a ubiblock device. at some point it appeared in /dev but now it doesn't. there supposedly is an ioctl to create and destroy ubiblk devices. does anyone know anything about that?
<quitte>
the volume was created static - so it should meet the ro criterium
<quitte>
tried with and without the openwrt patches that automate the creation and with volume=0:rootfs as well as volume=ubi0:rootfs
<dack>
have people gotten the sunxi_nand driver working on A20 devices? I've only gotten it working on my A10 Cubieboard.
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<bbrezillon>
dack: yes, several people actually (me, rz2k, ddc, quitte petrosagg)
<bbrezillon>
and I forgot longsleep
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<dack>
bbrezillon: I haven't been able to get it to work on 2 different devices. Both have Hynix NAND chips that are listed as supported devices in nand_id.c
<quitte>
http://pastebin.com/epwfurhF it works! well except for the overlay. but it looks like tomorrow I can finally attach the sata disk :)
<bbrezillon>
dack: I'll need more materials to help you (boot logs, a more specific description of your problem, any other information that can help)
<libv>
dack: did you manage to get to meminfo and script.bin?
<bbrezillon>
dack: okay, that's not mine :-)
<libv>
dack: or did you get hold of a livesuit image?
<bbrezillon>
quitte: great!
<dack>
libv: I have script.bin but not the meminfo yet... I have linux running, but it's hobbled because the memory information is wrong..
<libv>
dack: boot android
<dack>
bbrezillon: okay, what module are you using to access the nand?
<libv>
dack: install an ssh server from the appstore
<libv>
run meminfo over ssh
<Turl>
libv: why complicate things that much?
<dack>
libv: I have no idea what meminfo is... I tried running that as a command from a terminal emulator and I couldn't find it
<Turl>
you can get a terminal app and do it there
<libv>
Turl: true
<dack>
libv: I used the terminal emulator to mount the nand and get the script.bin... I can't find the "meminfo" command, though.
<libv>
Turl: but i prefer typing it over ssh, and using ssh for other things as well
<bbrezillon>
dack: unfortunately, none you could use with a 3.4 kernel :-(
<libv>
dack: did you read our howto on retrieving device information?
<dack>
bbrezillon: ah.. you're using a newer one.
<bbrezillon>
dack: yep
<dack>
libv: yes. I haven't been able to find a USB cable to access things via FEL and I have no idea how to get it otherwise. I don't have a copy of the livesuit image either.
<libv>
dack: run it from android _directly_
<libv>
dack: what's so impossible about building a tool on your pc, transferring it to android and then running it from android?
<dack>
libv: Are you talking about /proc/meminfo ? I ran "meminfo" as a command and it wasn't found
<libv>
dack: again.
<libv>
you did not read our retrieving device info howto.
<libv>
under this grossly misnamed section called "Using the original OS" and then under "Working with android"
<libv>
the absolutel last place anyone should go and look.
<dack>
libv: yep.. I completely didn't see that. I see it now.
<Turl>
libv: that's not very verbose
<libv>
Turl: ?
<libv>
Turl: feel free to fix the wiki.
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<Turl>
libv: well, maybe verbose was not the right word
<Turl>
it's rather unencouraging I suppose
<Turl>
we should lower the barrier as much as we can to get people to do it
<quitte>
imho verbose is not the worst word to describe what's lacking in the wiki
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<Turl>
with the old meminfo we had a prebuilt static bin
<Turl>
you could just wget, chmod, run anywhere
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<dack>
yeah, it'd make sense to just have bin copy available online
<libv>
Turl: let's first get the latest patches in
<libv>
and then we could stick the binary somewhere on linux-sunxi.org
<dack>
I've got it compiled now, though... Unfortunately I have to leave for the day. I'm glad I finally found out how to get the info without the USB cable, though!
<Turl>
libv: there's already some crosscompiled bins on bin/ on sunxi-tools
<Turl>
but dl.l-s.o would be just fine as well
<quitte>
dack: while you're moving you might want to pick up a usb cable on the way
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<libv>
hrm, really?
<dack>
quitte: ^_^ I have tons, just not one that does regular sized male to regular sized male... I have one in a drawer at home.. I just have to find it.
<libv>
hrm, fel-pio
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<quitte>
i have neveer seen one of those. odd.
<libv>
dack: these ports do not seem like host ports
<libv>
they look like device ports
<dack>
So, no OTG port?
<libv>
i doubt that there is the extra pin for id-ing in there, which allows the device to switch to host mode
<libv>
dack: i would expect so
<quitte>
I'd love to hear an otg physical and electrical connection for dummies
<libv>
dack: but i said yesterday that, since you are in contact with the manufacturer, you should candidly ask them how you can flash an android to this device
<dack>
libv: yeah, I contacted a sales guy.. he clammed up when I asked for software. I think he wants me to purchase 100 units to get the software. :P
<quitte>
libv: is that similar to encarta?
<libv>
quitte: how about you type like... you know... usb... in the search entrybox there.
<Turl>
quitte: it's the 2.0 encarta!
<Turl>
but it doesn't have the 3D trips to places
<libv>
dack: hrm, too bad
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<dack>
libv: he doesn't seem to get that I'd have no interest in buying any more if I can't get it to work for my purposes
<rafaelMOD>
Does anyone knows where I can find a documentation for generating a valid image for live suit?
<libv>
rafaelMOD: when you joined, Chanserv msged you
<libv>
Turl: tbh, i am not sure we should provide a binary here
<rafaelMOD>
libv: I know, I saw that but couldn't make it.
<libv>
Turl: forcing people to compile this, means forcing them to get a toolchain
<libv>
the only people who need this are those who are bringing up a device, and who should at one point work through the manual build howto
<libv>
the question is... do we want people to scare this early on
<libv>
and do we keep the really difficult stuff til the end?
<Turl>
libv: people will keep on going if they see benefit and achieve things
<quitte>
why would you try to manage that?
<Turl>
if you need to waste an afternoon setting up a toolchain and build essentials to build some tools, that'd probably be quite discouraging to many
<Turl>
if they get 'half' the task done with script.bin and meminfo, they will probably be happier to do it then
<libv>
ok
<libv>
i will provide a stripped binary in bin/
<quitte>
i avoided building sunxi-tools because of the binary blobs.
<libv>
is there anything stopping the latest round of patches from going on btw?
<libv>
also, wens, have you played with the dram controller on a23?
<Turl>
libv: I can have a second look in a bit if you want
<libv>
Turl: yeah
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<gzamboni>
wens mnemoc oliv3r i had already those A31 files in http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/gzamboni/ downloaded from wens some time ago, its duplicated now, i will delete them
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<gzamboni>
i didnt move them to the A31 dir as i didnt have perms for that
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