<bart416>
Making everything javascript was suuuuuuuuuuuuuch a good idea
<horizontally>
lol
<bart416>
now if a website doesn't respond you have no fucking clue of knowing what has happened
<Thetawaves>
you can still look at the headers of the ajax
<Thetawaves>
it's all the same technology
<bart416>
Thetawaves, that requires you to open a network monitor though
<bart416>
Something I refuse to do while browsing
<Thetawaves>
awwww poor baby
<bart416>
their javascript doesn't make the general web browsing experience better, so when will they realise how stupid it is and trash it?
<Thetawaves>
i dunno man
<Thetawaves>
extjs grid is something you just can not replicate without javascript
<bart416>
usage of javascript != web 2.0
<bart416>
Hence the "their"
<bart416>
Also, I'm specifically complaining about people who use the javascript to load the content
<bart416>
"to make more fluid page loads"
<bart416>
And in the process disable the back and forward buttons
<bart416>
cause they're too retarded to fix the functionality
<Thetawaves>
they are stupid and doing it wrong, you can navigate with web 2.0 using back/forward
<Thetawaves>
specifically using #anchors
<bart416>
Yes, but it'd still be better if they'd trash the javascript for that, and learned a thing or two about stylesheets
<bart416>
You can perfectly send the same type of content, encased in 2-3 xml tags
<bart416>
And have a stylesheet do the rest
<bart416>
Obviously this is hard for their tiny brains
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<azonenberg>
bart416: And you can also eliminate scripting entirely
<azonenberg>
and use *lightweight* html, not a megabyte of layout
<azonenberg>
and have it all server side
<azonenberg>
The way the web was supposed to be
<azonenberg>
i dont want to use the web for applications, or playing games, or an "experience"
<azonenberg>
it's a bunch of documents, and I want the *text*
<azonenberg>
its what i came there for, and anythign else is just getting in the way
<bart416>
well, the applications and games aren't that bad :P
<bart416>
they help me survive boring classes :P
<azonenberg>
Sure they're bad
<azonenberg>
when they leak memory as badly as facebook does?
<bart416>
touch�
<azonenberg>
if i have a FB tab open that i forget to close, by the end of the day my js memory usage is in the hundreds of MB
<azonenberg>
if two or three tabs i'm pushing a gig
<horizontally>
wow
<horizontally>
i don't even have a full gig to use
<horizontally>
what version of firefox do you use?
<azonenberg>
Latest stable
* azonenberg
has 4 gigs on this, his old laptop
<azonenberg>
all of the new boxes are 8 or 16
<azonenberg>
except the i7 triple channels which are 6 and 12
<horizontally>
wow
<horizontally>
boxes
<horizontally>
you are rich
<azonenberg>
No
<azonenberg>
I work for rich folks :p
<horizontally>
ah
<horizontally>
so you use facebook at work
<azonenberg>
And here and there they let me keep a few toys
<azonenberg>
and not exactly
<horizontally>
hahaha
<azonenberg>
i did consulting
<azonenberg>
So work and home systems were one and the same
<azonenberg>
i have a 24U rack in the living room
<azonenberg>
though i keep all of the compute nodes turned off when i'm not running a big job because they use a lot of power, i only have the file server on normally