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<ec>
hi loves!
<swart>
wb ec
<ec>
wb wb
<ec>
whatever that means
<ec>
ilu how's life
<ec>
come write code w/ me
<swart>
I just spent 2 hours at the DMV and I'm not even mad
<ec>
nem
<swart>
nem
<swart>
π°
<ec>
nem nem
<ec>
RevConf served cake for breakfast
<swart>
that was one item on my mental list. then cake
<swart>
nice. how do you like graphql now
<ec>
I don't know anything about it
<ec>
just saw a little bit of an overview
<swart>
I looked at the docs when you were discussing it and thought it looked like work
<ec>
lmao
<ec>
work
<swart>
I just got my graph search stable man
<swart>
last thing I want is arbitrary queries I never thought of
<swart>
I built this thing and now I get to hand it over to another team
<swart>
ππ»
<ec>
those emoji are so big, thanks irccloud
* swart
installed rocket in terminal. sorry
<swart>
they are about 9pt here
<swart>
so yeah no more code for me
<swart>
my new project is setting up backing services for pivotal cloud. no idea how any of it works
<ec>
god can we NOT spread the :this: means :an: :image: anti-pattern ;_;
<ec>
god i'm such a grumpy old man
<swart>
oh yeah
<ec>
I was a grumpy old man when I was 22 wtf
<swart>
I just remapped : to the ... character. so I type option-; to get my emoji menu
<swart>
I'm trying to ungrump
<swart>
there's so much wrong with puters I just try to deal with it
<swart>
I didn't start my CS until I was 21 anyhow. I think at 22 I was just at the "oh that's how they work" stage
<swart>
back in the 80s when 30% of the class was female and 80% of us we math nerds
<swart>
now it seems, different
<ec>
jfhbrook: your birthday is the same time as my sister's!
<jfhbrook>
oh?
<jfhbrook>
the 23rd?
<ec>
oh, no, the 16th
<jfhbrook>
ahh
<jfhbrook>
but yeah, turning 30
<jfhbrook>
it's a big one
<ec>
jesus, didn't know you were older than me
<jfhbrook>
but yeah ec with confs I'm a cheapskate so I try to get my employers to send me to confs but they're not philanthropists either so, like, at CN it was all sponsored confs only (got the 2 jsconfs outta that) and here, like, my boss is cool enough to get me to a conf a year or so but they have to be d8a related
<jfhbrook>
hah! people rarely properly guess my age
<jfhbrook>
most people seem to assume I'm closer to their age than mine
<pikajude>
i'm having an existential crisis again
<pikajude>
just spent three days doing this codegen stuff
<pikajude>
first review comment on the diff is "instead of [thing X], why didn't you just do [thing Y using completely different system]"
<pikajude>
this has happened for basically every large project i've ever done in any company
<jfhbrook>
so
<jfhbrook>
I gotta go in 5 minutes, but a few reactions
<jfhbrook>
a) that kinda thing happens, especially when you're new to a codebase
<jfhbrook>
b) you can ask for feedback earlier, before doing the work, sometimes that helps
<jfhbrook>
c) no existential crisis necessary, after all you still exist
<ec>
~CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP~
<ec>
hahah was a whole talk about that today
<pikajude>
i spent about two and a half weeks getting feedback for how this system was supposed to work
<pikajude>
this never came up
<jfhbrook>
that's not really your fault then
<pikajude>
pretty sure i'm just a liability to whatever team i'm on
<pikajude>
they're pumping a salary into someone who has no idea what he's doing and no idea how to figure it out
<jfhbrook>
no, not that I want to throw blame everywhere but it sounds like you did your due dilligence
<jfhbrook>
you've also been at this job, what? 6 months? maybe?
<pikajude>
about 5 weeks now
<pikajude>
but this is an ongoing pattern
<pikajude>
and is the reason i've never been promoted
<pikajude>
because i can't be relied upon to build a system that works
<pikajude>
well, i mean, it works, but it doesn't utilize the stuff we already have that would maybe help
<jfhbrook>
so like
<jfhbrook>
5 weeks is nothing
<jfhbrook>
onboarding time in my experience is like 6 months
<jfhbrook>
at least
<jfhbrook>
but also
<jfhbrook>
you work at facebook, no?
<jfhbrook>
that interview process is brutal
<jfhbrook>
I'd never get a job there even if I really wanted it and studied
<jfhbrook>
alright gotta go for real o/
<pikajude>
yeah i work at facebook
<ec>
hmmmmmm
<ec>
pikajude: oh, cool
<ec>
that's such a huge step up from Freakin' GoDaddy
<ec>
I'm proud of you, how did I miss that!
<pikajude>
i've told you a couple times already
<ec>
oh
<ec>
I'm so proud of you, I'm glad my atrocious memory means I get to compliment you over and over!
<pikajude>
on the plus side, they've planned out a leveling trajectory for new hires
<pikajude>
so my inevitable failure won't go ignored for 3 years