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<pikajude> i see
<pikajude> xrandr is high level
<pikajude> oh boy
<joepie91> [00:59] <pikajude> i think producing useless messages was the original mission statement when writing xrandr
<joepie91> pikajude: they must have been NIH-ing libvirt then
<pikajude> i hope so
<joepie91> because libvirt is very, VERY good at that
<pikajude> linux software is super good at it in general
<joepie91> like, holy shit, I've never seen anything produce error messages as useless as libvirt
<joepie91> it's great when it works but if it doesn't, welcome to hell
<pikajude> folding at home is by far the worst IME
<joepie91> you'll be spending your weekend tracking down obscure virtualization bugs
<pikajude> but i haven't used libvirt
<joepie91> pikajude: I've literally never seen libvirt return a useful error message
<joepie91> ever
<joepie91> anywhere
<pikajude> :)
<joepie91> under any circumstances
<pikajude> whenever i complain about linux people say "maybe you shouldn't use an OS you can't configure"
<joepie91> it's kind of incredible given that half the virtualization management tools are built on it
<pikajude> it's amazing
<pikajude> brb i'm gonna restart X see if this worked
<joepie91> pikajude: see you in a week after you've fixed your config
<joepie91> :p
<joepie91> pikajude: (btw, I consider myself amongst "Linux people" but I still constantly complain about usability issues like this, there's just no valid reason for them)
<jfhbrook> nothing will ever have as bad of error messages as the thing you're currently working on tho
<pikajude> joepie91: thx
<pikajude> yeah, once i allow non EDID modes, X arbitrarily decides that the max res my monitor can handle is
<joepie91> jfhbrook: hmm? :P
<pikajude> oh actually 1280x800
<joepie91> pikajude: hm, sec, let me dig through my logs to see if I can figure out what I did
<joepie91> to work around the max res issue
<joepie91> might take a while to grep
<joepie91> pikajude: meh. not in my logs. let me fire up my testing box and have a look
<pikajude> ok
* joepie91 has a physically separate system for testing NixOS modifications :P
<joepie91> pikajude: http://sprunge.us/iLKG -- I *think* it's the Modeline option that made it work
<joepie91> I forgot how I obtained it though
<pikajude> either cvt or gtf according to most online sources
<joepie91> lots of xrandr in my history, failed attempts
<pikajude> but nothing i've generated with those works
<joepie91> yeah, checking bash history now
<pikajude> so i'm going to use xvidtune to see what the current modeline is
<pikajude> but i have to compile it first
<pikajude> because it's not packaged
<joepie91> pikajude: `cvt 1680 1050 60` is in my logs
<pikajude> yea that won't work for me
<joepie91> hm.
<pikajude> xrandr will say
<joepie91> but I'm not using xrandr for it :P
<pikajude> oh ok
<pikajude> how did you set that mode then
<pikajude> oh ok
<joepie91> I just used that to generate the Modeline option, I believe
<joepie91> there's a layer of abstraction here
<joepie91> but it goes in the Monitor section
<pikajude> yeah if i put modelines in my config it ignores them
<joepie91> in your Xorg.conf
<joepie91> let me look up what `resolutions` does
<joepie91> cfg.resolutions
<pikajude> yeah resolutions is also ignored
<joepie91> so as I understand it, you have to set the Modeline *and* the preferred resolution in the monitor section, *and* set the preferred Mode in the screen section
<joepie91> no idea why, Xorg is voodoo to me
<joepie91> lol
<pikajude> oh ok
<pikajude> at least it's user friendly
<joepie91> hahaha
<joepie91> pikajude: so I actually know relatively much about internals of Linux distros, and uh, "underdocumented" would be the understatement of the century
<joepie91> like
<joepie91> this is probably one of the things you COULD find out by searching around
<joepie91> there are also things where you can't...
<pikajude> ah ok
<joepie91> Linux internals are an utter nightmare
<pikajude> if you just disable EDID freqs then xorg can no longer handle a 3440x1440 res
<joepie91> pikajude: for example, the DBus (events) specification for desktop notifications (think libnotify) lives in some random GNOME dev's user webspace
<pikajude> cool
<pikajude> oh, UseEDIDFreqs refers to resolutions, not frequencies
<pikajude> duh
<joepie91> ???
<joepie91> pikajude: oh, I didn't realize you were actually using NixOS
<joepie91> :p
<pikajude> i did!
<pikajude> it is kind of annoying that X claims to support setting your key repeat rate but it has to be done manually
<pikajude> ok
<pikajude> well
<pikajude> i was able to OC it finally
<pikajude> the max i can get on this monitor is 67hz
<pikajude> that was totally worth it
<joepie91> lol
<joepie91> pikajude: how'd you do it?
<pikajude> had to put random numbers after HorizSync in the config
<pikajude> the higher the number, the higher the supposed supported resolution
<joepie91> huh.
<joepie91> yeah I have no idea what that's supposed to do
<joepie91> lol
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