00:01 <bluebie> I am a potato

00:02 <incomprehensibly> hi

00:02 <incomprehensibly> wow it's poppin in here

00:02 <bluebie> pop pop

00:03 <incomprehensibly> ELLIOTTCABLE: yes stormlight archive

00:03 <incomprehensibly> ppop pop

00:04 <incomprehensibly> late to the conversation

00:04 <incomprehensibly> but i basically work at a startup now

00:04 <incomprehensibly> ...in php/cake so not the hippest of technologies

00:07 <incomprehensibly> ELLIOTTCABLE: bitcoiner libertarians aren't the only people who think p2p technology is cool :p

00:08 <incomprehensibly> ELLIOTTCABLE: also i never thought of saving money on heating by mining bitcoin

00:10 <bluebie> I've been thinking for years we should use bitcoin as a heat source for things like clothes dryers. It doesn't need to make a profit - it just makes its own running costs cheaper

00:10 <bluebie> plus good excuse to have wifi on a clothes dryer and then it can text you when your stuff is finished

00:43 <ELLIOTTCABLE> hi incomprehensibly

00:44 <ELLIOTTCABLE> incomprehensibly: you work at a startup, what o_o

00:44 <ELLIOTTCABLE> bluebie: genius, make it happen

00:44 <ELLIOTTCABLE> oh my god, really though

00:44 <ELLIOTTCABLE> it's not using clothes-drying to make Bitcoin cost-effective;

00:45 <ELLIOTTCABLE> it's using Bitcoin to offeset the costs of clothes-drying.

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03:17 <bluebie> right

03:18 <bluebie> you could cut out the middle man and do deals with power companies, so they could sell consumers machines to heat their homes or dry their clothes or hell even cook their dinner and the machines would get a discounted rate of electricity and just quietly mine cryptocurrency or do some other useful computation

14:19 <whitequark> bluebie: the issue is that you don't need all that much watts per mips for useful computation

14:19 <whitequark> and bitcoin is literally designed to eat up all the power you throw at it while keeping output constant

14:20 <whitequark> so the only way you can offset even your setup cost is to be ahead of market

14:20 <whitequark> i.e. you need to do your ASIC on a next-gen process AND have an agreement in-place with production companies AND do it a few months before your competition catches up

16:01 <bluebie> tru

16:01 <bluebie> still no reason it couldn't be a room heater

16:02 <bluebie> they'd just need to ship a new heating element to you every few months

16:03 <Aria> Haha.

16:04 <bluebie> heya aria!

16:04 <Aria> Hey hey!

16:05 <bluebie> it's been a while ^_^