purr changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a _better_ cult || topics << 'gamedev'
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<whitequark> now that ec is doing mecheng instead of failing at language design, i might as well get back here
<whitequark> oh cool i still have the +
<Temur> hi
<whitequark> hi
<Temur> ec is doing mecheng?
<whitequark> well, he's looking for screws.
<whitequark> unless it was a metaphor for having a screw loose, or something.
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<ec> whitequark: fuck you
<ec> Temur: who's you
<Temur> ec, kaplan
<whitequark> ec: which part offends you
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<ec> whitequark: so, measured the damn things with a caliper. they're almost precisely 0.134in diameter; and I need them in ~1+1/8 or ~1+1/4in length.
<ec> preferably pan-heads, but idc much if it'll goddamn go in
<whitequark> ok so
<whitequark> i figured out the naming
<whitequark> to rephrase someone i know, "what the holy fuck ass balls"
<whitequark> so, there are two "formats" of the name
<ec> for reference, here are some irl packaging
<whitequark> one is like #4-40, where "#4" means gauge 4 (i'm not sure if this gauge is used somewhere else except screws)
<whitequark> and "40" means threads per inch
<whitequark> it's also commonly shortened to just 4-40
<whitequark> then there is the second format, like 1/4-20. it goes up in fractions, like 1-8, 1 1/8-7, and so on
<whitequark> the second number is also tpi
<whitequark> threads per inch that is
<whitequark> and the former number is, uhhhhh
<whitequark> ...
<whitequark> ...
<whitequark> the height of the cap
<ec> what
<ec> like, thicknessa?
<ec> thickness*?
<ec> for fucking real? not diameter? you're sure?
<whitequark> oh it's both.
<ec> whitequark: IRC isn't less effort *typing* than Twitter; it's just less effort *splitting*. Trying to break sentences down into 140-character chunks is more arduous than, idk, 512 chars
<whitequark> regarding gauge
<whitequark> no, it's not used anywhere else except for screws
<ec> all I want in the world right now is to figure out how to hook my bluetooth headphones up to my tv ಠ_ಠ
<whitequark> "#4" just means "screw number four defined in this long boring paper"
<ec> well gauge is obviously a generic term. it's like Olde English for ‘unit.’
<whitequark> I know.
<whitequark> I mean, there's wire gauge. AWG. it's given parametrically.
<ec> saying ‘5 unit’ means nothing without context, so I guess it vaguely makes sense that 12-gauge gun barrel and 12-gauge screw are different?
<whitequark> there's "mesh" which is a sort of gauge, you can also calculate that
<ec> idk. not defending the idiocy of the system, I just kind of get it.
<ec> parametrically?
<whitequark> diameter = 0.005 * 92 ^ ((36-n)/39)
<ec> maybe it'd all make more sense if we used ordinals instead of cardinals :P
<ec> ‘12th gauge’
<whitequark> where N is the AWG number
<ec> what unit? mm?
<whitequark> in
<ec> and: did you really know that off the top of your head? if so, I love you.
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> I mean, not the exact formula
<ec> I cut my fingernails, and now the tips of my fingers hurt from typing.
<whitequark> thankfully I very rarely work with AWG, and in non-backwards countries the wire diameter is given by cross section in millimeters square
<whitequark> anyway let me see your thing
<ec> okay. so, on the original topic … what fucking gauge is 0.134in
<whitequark> 0.134" dia is probably #6-32
<ec> … 1/
<whitequark> wha?
<ec> lol wolfram alpha
<ec> purr needs a wolfram alpha search
<ec> also, purr needs to exist again …
<ec> !comeback
<whitequark> integrate units(7) into purr
<whitequark> would be ossm
<ec> holy crap @ `units`
<ec> this is awesome
<ec> ossm. lol.
<whitequark> I picked that up from meadhbh or something
<ec> dunnot know what that is
<ec> purr i miss you come back
<ec> anyway. back to paws.
<whitequark> meadhbh hamrick. it's an ... irish last name, apparently
<whitequark> http://meadhbh.org/
<ec> follow't
<whitequark> she surprised me with unexpectedly awesome coincidences at least thrice.
<whitequark> she worked at borland. borland is THE fucking reason why i program right now
<whitequark> in more than one way
<ec> how so
<whitequark> i started with borland c++ builder. i learned english by c++ builder manuals. i did... more things with turbo c, /after/ i got bored with c++ builder
<whitequark> (yes, my first language was c++)
<Temur> I tried learning C++ when I was around 7
<Temur> Int, Float and everything went over my head
<whitequark> i mainly never figured out what the hell __fastcall was
<ec> O_O
<ec> what's __fastcall
<ec> or do you mean you still don't know
<whitequark> I do know
<whitequark> it took, uh, looking into how LLVM x86 backend works to figure it out
<whitequark> __fastcall is a particular calling convention on windows that stashes a few values into registers instead of putting them all on stack, like __stdcall or cdecl would do
<whitequark> I think the time interval between learning that __fastcall exists and understanding how it works was about uhhh
<whitequark> 14 years?
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<ec> oh hey is it true that microwaves are illegal in russia? or something like that?
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<ec> all I really want out of life: a country to call home where there's lots of mountains and snow, guns are legal and accepted, and they use the goddamn metric system.
<whitequark> lol what?
<ec> they don't even have to speak english! I'll learn whatever their magical mountain language is!
<whitequark> microwaves?
<whitequark> what are you smoking
<whitequark> (gimme some it sounds good)
<ec> I swear I heard somewhere that Russia illegalized microwaves in the '70s
<whitequark> there's a shitton of microwaves
<whitequark> maybe you meant like some obscure particularly unsafe kind of microwave
<whitequark> or particularly safe
<whitequark> idk
<whitequark> but common household microwaves are pretty much everywhere
<ec> oh holy crap
<ec> it's a real thing, commonly talked about, but it's a *myth*
<ec> mind fucking blown
<ec> aaaaaand now I'm reading all sorts of kooky articles about how microwaved water is chemically different from normal water …
<whitequark> bleargh
<ec> just saw a Travelocity ad with a lawn-gnome on a surfer's surfboart
<ec> that just seems irresponsible and dangerous.
<ec> that red hat is basically a wide concrete spear, yo.
<ec> given how much *I* fall when surfing, I extrapolate that there was a 20% chance of the surfer in the ad being impaled and dying
<whitequark> maybe they made it out of plaster
<ec> in the water? doesn't water dissolve plaster? idk hand-made things.
<whitequark> it doesn't really dissolve, it makes it weaker tho
<whitequark> but then you need it like once
<ec> this looks adorable
<ec> fucking surfnome http://i.ell.io/17niA
<whitequark> lol what
<whitequark> ad?
<ec> yep
<whitequark> 3 of 3?
<whitequark> wtf
<ec> hulu lol
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<ec> ugh
<prophile> WHAT HAPPEN
<vigs> Everything happens so much
<ec> eyes hurt