02:04 <bmcginty> Anyone here done speed tests for serialization/deserialization of data? I've got about 400 GB to transform from JSON into something that I can go through as quickly as possible to do some calculations. This is definitely a DB task, but I kind of want to try a different method...just don't want to have to parse the json into something, only to find out something better exists.

03:43 <FromGitter> <codenoid> ok, i have a question, can i scrap full (100% loaded) web data (loaded by ajax) with just using crystal and cr html parser lib ? (without web driver)

06:21 <oprypin> codenoid, usually yes

06:38 <FromGitter> <codenoid> how ? pwizz tell me

06:43 <FromGitter> <codenoid> 1) gimme example 😄

07:06 <FromGitter> <konovod> @bmcginty if you don't need to store structure with data, binary dump is a fastest, so i suggest https://github.com/Papierkorb/cannon

07:37 <FromGitter> <konovod> On the other hand, binary dump is useless for 400gb data as you have to seek through it, not load. So scratch that.

09:01 <FromGitter> <codenoid> other way to download file in crystal without use unix cmd ( ` `wget myfile.jpg` ` )

09:22 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> @codenoid https://crystal-lang.org/api/0.23.0/HTTP/Client.html

09:22 <FromGitter> <codenoid> plus get and file open ?

09:27 <FromGitter> <98016071> @oprypin, thank you, that is what i want

09:28 <FromGitter> <codenoid> aaaaaaa i really love cr, i'll full time learn and use Crystal as my Primary Language ❤️

11:09 <FromGitter> <codenoid> hi, how to activate cookie in HTTP::Client

11:14 <Papierkorb> bmcginty: That is indeed a task for a database. You could build something sophisticated, but really, it would end up as kind of database. Postgres is a fantastic database, and should handle that load just fine.

13:39 <crystal-gh> [crystal] mverzilli closed pull request #4735: Tuple: support negative index (master...feature/tuple/support-negative-index) https://git.io/v7kYm

14:00 <travis-ci> crystal-lang/crystal#a14f4e8 (master - Tuple: support negative index (#4735)): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/crystal-lang/crystal/builds/257729465

14:11 <travis-ci> crystal-lang/crystal#a14f4e8 (master - Tuple: support negative index (#4735)): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/crystal-lang/crystal/builds/257729465

14:42 <crystal-gh> [crystal] MakeNowJust opened pull request #4748: Use {% begin %} instead of {% if true %} (master...fix/use-macro-begin-instead-if-true) https://git.io/v73VN

15:10 <adam12> Does anybody know where/how freebsd status left off? I see a binary package on 0.19 release page, which works! but using 0.19 to compile 0.20 fails :\

15:23 <RX14> we theoretically have freebsd support

15:23 <RX14> how does the build fail adam12?

15:33 <adam12> RX14: Let me see if I can rerun it again.

15:37 <crystal-gh> [crystal] jhass closed pull request #4748: Use {% begin %} instead of {% if true %} (master...fix/use-macro-begin-instead-if-true) https://git.io/v73VN

15:40 <adam12> RX14: I wonder if it's related to LLVM version. I'm using LLVM 4.0 to build 0.20, but I remember something about only 3.6 being supported somewhere?

15:41 <adam12> RX14: Let me try downgrading LLVM to 3.9

15:41 <RX14> no

15:41 <RX14> 4.0 is supported

15:41 <RX14> i need an error message to tell you anything

15:42 <adam12> I know. I can't copy/paste out of this VM, so I was trying not to waste your time.

15:42 <adam12> I piped to a text file but LLVM outputs those raw colour codes, and I'm not sure how to strip them to have an elegant error message.

15:42 <RX14> the first thing to do with a VM is set up ssh to it

15:42 <adam12> RX14: I might just do that.

15:43 <RX14> so you can close the GUI and leave it in the background

15:44 <adam12> Should I build incremental versions, or just skip from 0.19 binary to latest release?

15:53 <adam12> RX14: So 0.20 builds with LLVM3.9, no errors.

15:54 <RX14> oh uhh maybe 0.20 doesn't support llvm 4

15:54 <RX14> i forgot you were using old version

15:54 <RX14> i forgot you were using old versions

15:54 <adam12> Yeah - should I build one, and then use that built one for the next version, starting 0.19?

15:54 <adam12> Or do you think 0.19 building 0.23.1 should just work?

15:54 <RX14> if you have linux you can just cross-compile

15:55 <adam12> I do. I was curious what it would take to package crystal in freebsd ports.. and if it was even possible.

15:55 <RX14> i don't know

15:56 <RX14> bootstrapped packages are always a bit weird

15:56 <RX14> look if there's a rust/gcc/go port and how they appear to do it

15:57 <adam12> I think this is a syntax error between versions, so I suspect I'll have to go up version by version? 0.19 compiling 0.23.1. https://gist.github.com/adam12/07258885fdd0ddf74f60c055476f09fe

15:57 <RX14> yes you have to go by version

15:57 <adam12> RX14: Good idea. I know for sure go, and likely rust IIRC.

15:57 <RX14> just cross-compile

15:57 <adam12> OK, cool.

15:57 <adam12> I'll check out cross compile.

15:57 <RX14> once you have ssh you have scp and you can just move the object file and link

15:58 <RX14> you'll essentially want to check out crystal on both systems

15:59 <RX14> use bin/crystal build --cross-compile --target <freebsd target triple> -D without_openssl -D without_zlib

15:59 <RX14> oh uh oops

15:59 <RX14> use bin/crystal build --cross-compile --target <freebsd target triple> -D without_openssl -D without_zlib src/compiler/crystal.cr

15:59 <RX14> and that'll emit a linker command to stdout and a crystal.o

16:00 <RX14> move the crystal.o to the freebsd system and run the linker command on it

16:00 <RX14> there will be reference in the lniker command to some files local to the checkout of your crystal sources

16:00 <RX14> so you'll need to run make deps on freebsd and change those paths to refer to the checkout location on freebsd

16:01 <adam12> RX14: OK

16:15 <travis-ci> crystal-lang/crystal#8f2a9c2 (master - Merge pull request #4748 from MakeNowJust/fix/use-macro-begin-instead-if-true): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/crystal-lang/crystal/builds/257778232

16:23 <travis-ci> crystal-lang/crystal#8f2a9c2 (master - Merge pull request #4748 from MakeNowJust/fix/use-macro-begin-instead-if-true): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/crystal-lang/crystal/builds/257778232

19:40 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> (https://files.gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal/izem/image.png)

19:40 <FromGitter> <bew> nice!

19:54 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> Yes, it works like a charm =)

19:59 <RX14> @straight-shoota make sure to put that search on a key like github

19:59 <RX14> so i can just open docs, press t or something and start typing

20:00 <Papierkorb> cursor up/down, enter, to select and open in search results would be neato too

20:10 <RX14> yup

20:15 <FromGitter> <bew> I would suggest `s` or `/` to start a search

20:16 <FromGitter> <bararchy> total `/` as in vim style

20:16 <Papierkorb> Please no, hard to hit on German keyboard

20:17 <Papierkorb> letter keys are easy on everything. even on mobile.

20:17 <FromGitter> <bew> I meant "and", so the two should be possible

20:17 <FromGitter> <bew> on mobile you don't really have a keyboard to type a key shortcut..

20:18 <Papierkorb> bew, already open on-screen-keyboards on non-phones

20:19 <FromGitter> <bew> huh what kind of non-phones have on screen keyboard always open?

20:20 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> Haha, that's already working 😄 ✨

20:20 <FromGitter> <bew> 👍

20:20 <Papierkorb> bew, when I used a tablet for a few days I had it always open, so when I switched from the editor to whatever, the screen doesn't "jump".

20:21 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> (https://files.gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal/wALu/image.png)

20:23 <FromGitter> <bew> Papierkorb nice idea

22:04 <hightower2> Are you folks aware that the Release Notes displayed at the bottom of https://crystal-lang.org/ are out of date? The last ones shown are for Crystal 0.20.0

22:04 <FromGitter> <mverzilli> yes, those are more "release note blogposts" than release notes

22:05 <FromGitter> <mverzilli> but it is confusing, I noticed them the other day and thought the same

22:22 <FromGitter> <oprypin> me too thanks

22:38 <FromGitter> <codenoid> somebody please remake this library :( https://github.com/datanoise/mongo.cr

22:54 <w-p> can anyone point me to (or tell me) an explaination of the relationship between getter, setter, and property in a class?

22:57 <Papierkorb> `property` calls `getter` and `setter` internally. it's a short-hand to define both

22:58 <w-p> Papierkorb: thanks, again.