<FromGitter>
<crisward> Not very scientific, but how long should `p "hello world"` take to return in crystal play? Mine takes around 20 seconds. Not sure if it's related to crystal-lang/crystal#4022 but it's slow in 0.20.4 as well. Tried changing the port, incase I was getting some network issues, but it didn't help.
<FromGitter>
<crisward> mine is only a bit longer using `crystal build test.cr -s` the 20 seconds is in the crystal play interface. No idea why it's that slow.
<FromGitter>
<crisward> Just deleted my ~/.cache/crystal files. Seems to have fixed it. Now taking < 3 seconds
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<RX14>
weird
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<FromGitter>
<crisward> The cache took an age to delete, must have been very big.
<Papierkorb>
RX14: The digest issue isn't much about security. Though I'd be fine in theory with the methods providing easy access to OpenSSL primitives for it, without showing it's using OpenSSL. The last thing I want from a "secure" language is having to clutter OpenSSL::... everywhere
<Papierkorb>
Though that's a more broad issue, I'd like to hide OpenSSL more anyway, so it can also be more easily replaced by the next cool ssl library like BoringSSL or whatever
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<FromGitter>
<drosehn> I didn't see anyone answer the question about `uname` on MacOS. Here's `uname -a` on the mac I'm currently typing on: Darwin OnRun-i52c.local 14.5.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.5.0: Sun Sep 25 22:07:15 PDT 2016; root:xnu-2782.50.9~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
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<FromGitter>
<drosehn> I doubt PR's would need all that. It might be interesting for crystal to include the version of whatever llvm was used to compile it.
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<crystal-gh>
[crystal] karlseguin opened pull request #4023: document use (and risk) of $N special capture group variables (#3979) (master...feature/regexp_capture_doc) https://git.io/vDwMB
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<crystal-gh>
[crystal] ezrast opened pull request #4024: Support "View source" links for GitLab projects (master...gitlab-view-source) https://git.io/vDw9J
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<crystal-gh>
[crystal] karlseguin opened pull request #4025: Adds include? macro method to string, symbol and macroid. (master...feature/macro_includes) https://git.io/vDw99
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<RX14>
Papierkorb, i agree with you on abstracting openssl
<RX14>
and abstracting TLS/SSL/Digest away from openssl so we have pluggable providers
<RX14>
but each and every one of those providers should be written by someone who knows what they're doing
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<unshadow>
Is there a fork\branch with the concurrency work ? to checkout and test ?
<RX14>
unshadow, there's a branch but it's too early to test
<unshadow>
RX14: Sure, thanks :)
<RX14>
actually wow
<RX14>
it's actually being worked on
<BlaXpirit>
exactly my reaction
<unshadow>
Can't find it, is it a branch or someones fork ?
<RX14>
i'm used to "waj is working on it" "last commit a month ago"
<RX14>
unshadow, it's called thread-support
<unshadow>
RX14: Cool, thanks :) I'll check it out , maybe it's already usable ?
<RX14>
well
<RX14>
a few of the examples seem to be edited to run
<RX14>
so yes
<RX14>
it looks somewhat usable
<unshadow>
I guess not ... "src/ck/ext/rwlock.c:1:23: fatal error: ck_rwlock.h: No such file or directory"
<RX14>
make again
<RX14>
oh
<RX14>
uhh
<RX14>
nvm
<unshadow>
XD
<RX14>
looks like a new lib
<RX14>
concurrencykit
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<unshadow>
Is that some lib I can found on the net ? can't find it in my package manager
<unshadow>
RX14: It workek, still not compiling , but now it's just some local var errors, this I guess, is just a matter of time to let waj and friends to finish concurency
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<Papierkorb>
Is there a coverage tool?
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<RX14>
no
<RX14>
which is a shame
<crystal-gh>
[crystal] jellymann opened pull request #4026: Add `zero?` to Number (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vDwhF
<Papierkorb>
Ah, someone else liked #zero? too
<RX14>
we already had this discussion
<RX14>
and it was why have #zero? wuejn you can just use == 0
<RX14>
there is no point
<Papierkorb>
Why use crystal when there's C
<RX14>
thats not much of an argument is it
<RX14>
#zero? is essentially a method alias
<RX14>
and asterite has made his position on them clear
<Papierkorb>
My opinion is not changed by another persons opinion I disagree with. I don't wanna start this war RX14, I don't care much about #zero?, I just like how it reads
<RX14>
your opinion doesn't have to change, but it does have an effect on whether this PR will be merged or not
<unshadow>
I agree that .zero? is not needed as it's longer then just == 0 , but, we can say the same for .nil?, where x == nil
<RX14>
the reason behind nil? is that == nil doesn't work in type restrictions
<RX14>
you cannot implement nil? yourself, you can implement == nil yourself
<Papierkorb>
The intention is different. zero? asks "is this thing zero-ish?" and == 0 tests if that thing is actually zero
<unshadow>
RX14: Oh, didn't know that, in that case my argument is invalid
<unshadow>
Ok, what about .empty? then
<Papierkorb>
it's not as strong as the intention difference between Symbol vs String of course
<RX14>
personally i'd prefer to use == nil, but I imagine implementing it as non-overridable would be quite hard
* Papierkorb
brb
<RX14>
.empty? is quite a bit shorter than .size == 0 i guess
<RX14>
because it's not testing equality of self
<unshadow>
== ""
<RX14>
it's etsting equality of a property of self
<RX14>
not sure how much difference that makes
<RX14>
I always use size == 0
<FromGitter>
<chyzwar> Thanks for pointing where exit and bort is defined @RX14
<RX14>
that was BlaXpirit
<RX14>
iirc
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<FromGitter>
<chyzwar> yeah, thanks @BlaXpirit
<FromGitter>
<chyzwar> I have another thing to ask. I define logging module that then include in my classes. it work on in all cases but I have issue when I try to create custom formatter
<FromGitter>
<chyzwar> Well it shoudl be pretty the same in terms of performance I gueass.
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<Papierkorb>
chyzwar, maybe neglibable, but #<< could be a tad faster as the string interpolation version would build the whole string first and then send it off into the io
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