00:00 <elfurbe> Anyone have any protips on making cinch-calculate work? It does not seem to trigger on seeing .math, I'm not sure what the issue is.

00:12 <dominikh> would probably be easier to ask the developer of cinch-calculate :)

00:13 <dominikh> elfurbe: but considering that the plugin author never explicitly sets the prefix in his plugin, it should be !math, not .math

00:15 <elfurbe> Ha, yeah. That's it.

00:21 <elfurbe> Is that always set in the plugin or is there a global prefix that will default cinch to . instead of ! ?

00:21 <dominikh> elfurbe: you can set a global prefix (which defaults to !) and plugins can overwrite it with a local prefix

00:22 <dominikh> you can set the global one e.g. in your configure block, with something like c.plugins.prefix = "."

00:24 <elfurbe> Ah, rgr. I'll post an issue on his github. I'm sure if I was a more seasoned cinch developer that would've been obvious to me, but having just picked it up today, it'd be nice if his docs indicated that . is not the default command prefix.

00:24 <dominikh> I'm pretty sure he forgot that himself.

00:24 <dominikh> otherwise he'd either use ! in the docs or set it to .

00:56 <elfurbe> Issue filed. Hopefully I'll save someone else some hairpulling. :D

00:59 <elfurbe> I actually had one other question about cinch-identify. I want to put my bot in a channel that requires a registered nick, but identify seems to trigger after channel joins are attempted. Is there a way to tell it to identify before joining?

01:06 <elfurbe> Yeah, I just found delay_joins

01:17 <dominikh> right

01:17 <dominikh> I think that's in the cinch-identify readme, isn't it?

01:18 <elfurbe> I do not believe so

01:19 <dominikh> hm okay, will check/edit later

01:20 <elfurbe> Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!

01:20 <dominikh> you're welcome

16:26 <Dwarf> Afternoon

16:27 <Dwarf> This may sound like a stupid question but how would I send a message to a different channel than the one the event triggered in?

16:50 <Dwarf> Nevermind, got it

17:56 <dominikh> :)

19:23 <petru> hello

19:23 <dominikh> Hi.

19:25 <petru> I'm giving cinch another try today, but I can't get a simple plug-in to work. I basically copy/pasted the code from the example plug-in

19:25 <dominikh> before we go any further: plugins have a default prefix of !

19:26 <dominikh> so e.g. the hello plugin triggers on !hello

19:26 <petru> Okay. That was easy :P

19:26 <dominikh> it happens somewhat often… it's a nice way to get people to join #cinch :P

19:26 <petru> Thanks. :)

19:27 <petru> Is that prefix changeable?

19:27 <dominikh> yes

19:27 <dominikh> on a per-match, per-plugin and per-bot basis

19:28 <dominikh> `match /.../, prefix: ...`, `set :prefix, ...` and `c.plugins.prefix = ...`

19:28 <dominikh> can be string, regexp or lambda. string will automatically get the ^ anchor, regexp will not, lambda is expected to return a string or regexp

19:29 <dominikh> there's also a suffix, which is empty by default

19:30 <petru> I see

19:31 <petru> I'm fairly new at ruby programming, but now that plug-ins work I'll have a shot at learning it the practical way

19:32 <dominikh> yay.

19:32 <dominikh> last time you gave up :P

19:32 <petru> yep :p

19:33 <petru> No way to reload code without restarting, right?

19:33 <dominikh> not in Cinch's core. there's a plugin that can do that, but it's somewhat involved and expects a certain file layout

19:34 <petru> Ok

20:15 <petru> dominikh, I have `match /greet (.*)/` in a plug-in. How could I use the text that matches this pattern in execute()?

20:15 <dominikh> Petru: every match group is one argument to the method

20:15 <dominikh> Petru: or do you want the entire message?

20:16 <petru> No, but I'd like to know that too:)

20:16 <dominikh> Message#message to get the entire message

20:17 <petru> So m.message

20:18 <dominikh> yeah

20:18 <petru> Match groups as arguments is awesome. I feared having to parse the whole message again :p

20:21 <dominikh> that'd be silly.

20:22 <petru> (it's what I did until now for non-plugin code)

20:22 <dominikh> hehe

20:22 <dominikh> (fwiw, the on-handlers behave the same. match groups are arguments to the block)

20:22 <petru> Yep, just figured that out too

20:44 <petru> dominikh, is there a way to send color and bold text to the server?

20:45 <waxjar> there's a Format method, iirc

20:45 <dominikh> yeah, look at the Format helper

20:45 <petru> hmm

20:46 <petru> I see

23:56 <petru> good night