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<deepender> ckrailo: there?
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<bsdbeard> Trying to install a ruby project, did bundle install, now it says "Xapian version 1.2.15 or higher required", even though bundle install installed xapian-ruby 1.2.15.1
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<AntelopeSalad> is anyone else having issues gem installing any package?
<AntelopeSalad> i just tried to gem install something and it's been sitting with no output for what feels like 4-5 minutes
<AntelopeSalad> haven't seen this happen before
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<AntelopeSalad> false alarm, something in my ruby env was hosed but it's working now
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<diegoviola> hi
<diegoviola> i'm working on a rails4 app, i have a question about gems and groups, do i need to put the gems such as 'rspec-rails', 'capybara' and 'shoulda-matchers' in the :test group and also the :development group?
<diegoviola> or :test group alone is fine?
<diegoviola> what's the idea behind groups?
<indirect> diegoviola: depends on where you're going to use them
<indirect> two things that are kind of related
<indirect> first, they allow you to not install gems that aren't going to be used or aren't able to be installed
<indirect> for example you probably don't want to spend the time to install rspec on your production servers
<indirect> and you might not be able to install the pg gem on your laptop (if you don't have postgres installed), but heroku requires it for production
<indirect> so you would run "bundle install --without test" when you deploy and "bundle install --without production" on your laptop
<indirect> in those cases
<indirect> rails uses bundler groups to know which gems to load
<diegoviola> cool, makes sense, thanks :)
<diegoviola> but by doing a "bundle" i guess it installs all gems from all groups?
<indirect> if you are running rails in production mode, rails will not load the bundler development or test groups
<indirect> correct
<diegoviola> i see, that makes a lot of sense, thanks ;)
<indirect> so you would want, say, rspec-rails in the development group so that it can be loaded to create rake tasks for you
<indirect> because when you run "rake spec", it loads the spec task from rspec-rails
<indirect> if you only put rspec-rails in the test group (and not the development group) you would have to run RAILS_ENV=test rake spec
<indirect> to get rails to load the rspec-rails gem so that the spec rake task would be defined
<indirect> so that's why many test gems are added to the development group
<diegoviola> makes sense, that's very helpful, thanks
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