#bitcoin-wizards on 2019-10-11 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-10-30 00:53 sipa changed the topic of #bitcoin-wizards to: This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja

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13:15 <gleb> In an alternative universe with 1 CPU = 1 vote one could imagine a scheme where transaction senders do PoW over their transactions when signing, which would contribute to the corresponding block's work.

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13:16 <gleb> This would be another form to support/incentivise the miner which includes your transaction, even more straightforward then paying higher fee.

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13:30 <jonasschnelli> roasbeef: how realistic would it be to create a compact filter (basic 0x00) for the mempool? Maybe max the top 100MB, somehow fingerprinting resistant? How large would a such filter be?

13:32 <kanzure> gleb: i think that would basically be a block DAG graph mining approach thing.

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13:38 <MarcoFalke_> jonasschnelli: Have you seen the recent post to the mailinglist

13:38 <MarcoFalke_> I'd doubt you can do that in a DOS resistant way

13:38 <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke_: probably not. What threat subject are you referring to?

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13:40 <MarcoFalke_> jonasschnelli: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-September/017325.html I haven't read it, though

13:41 <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke_: thanks!

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14:56 <sipa> jonasschnelli: what for?

14:57 <jonasschnelli> sipa: 0 conf detection for light clients

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14:57 <jonasschnelli> sipa: I guess a light client can just getdata all tx invs, but unconfirmed txns before connecting to peers would be missing

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14:58 <jonasschnelli> though the concerns are probably DOS/fingerprinting and bandwidth requirements

14:59 <jonasschnelli> sipa: any thoughts on this?

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