<GNUtoo-irssi>
buZz: so it's part of the standard then?
<GNUtoo-irssi>
buZz: does EOMA68 exports SATA?
<GNUtoo-irssi>
SATA is mentioned on some documents but not on other
<GNUtoo-irssi>
thanks
<buZz>
EOMA68 is a standard?
<buZz>
i dont think o
<buZz>
so*
<GNUtoo-irssi>
It's documented at least
<GNUtoo-irssi>
I don't think it was submited to standard bodies
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Do ath9k_htc compatible wifi card exist in formats compatible with this mini-pcie connector.
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Assuming I read your image correctly, if that existed, I could just put one in an existing PCI slot, that's great!
<GNUtoo-irssi>
*mini-pcie
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Usage: I guess BIOS don't check for USB cards plugged into that slot.
<buZz>
yes there are mini-pcie wifi cards
<GNUtoo-irssi>
No I mean USB wifi cards in a format compatible with that connector
<GNUtoo-irssi>
like a similar card would directly use the usb pins
<GNUtoo-irssi>
but would fit into the mini-pcie slot
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Nowadays a lot of laptop's BIOSes prevent you from replacing the internal wifi card.
<GNUtoo-irssi>
I guess many don't prevent you from removing that card (some do).
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Assuming you plug an USB card in the same slot instead, the BIOS wound't check for that (unless it requires the original card to be in).
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<arossdotme-planb>
GNUtoo-irssi, sata was removed replaced with usb3
<arossdotme-planb>
GNUtoo-irssi, I think luke has a free wifi liike ath9k minipci card in mind. ;)
<buZz>
why on earth replace sata with usb3
<buZz>
'here is a usable low cpu IO method' 'ohhh lets replace it with this high cpu IO method!'
<arossdotme-planb>
the lowest contaminator IO on socs, is now usb3 for the forthcoming future of the life span of eoma68
<arossdotme-planb>
usb3/usb
<arossdotme-planb>
buZz, speed wise its pretty much the same with a decent usb2sata chip, i think
<arossdotme-planb>
but i dont imagine that youll want to have swap over usb3 :/
<buZz>
exactly
<buZz>
its way too IO heavy
<buZz>
i agree maxspeed is similar
<buZz>
but at what cost
<buZz>
3gbps on sata-1 at near 0% load
<arossdotme-planb>
cost wise this was cheeper as you get acess to even cheaper socs. all interfaces are manatory. so it have sata would mean that a soc with no sata would need a usb2sata chip adding to the cost of what was supposed to be an extra cheap soc eoma68 card
<buZz>
yeah, so its weird to give nonsense precendence on mandatory interfaces
<buZz>
i dont like arms without sata
<buZz>
they're pretty pointless as desktop replacements or servers
<buZz>
i understand no smartphone wants sata
<arossdotme-planb>
narr mandatory is necessary for this standard. luke wrote all about it. mailing list, and the white paper on the website
<buZz>
but i feel its way too limiting to stick to smartphone cpus as definition
<buZz>
i mean, we should be focussing on improvements right?
<buZz>
not stick to some old choice someone else made in the past
<arossdotme-planb>
eoma-68 is the low cost, good enough standard.
<buZz>
then i'll wait for the next standard :)
<arossdotme-planb>
this is a new choice to ditch sata an switch for usb3
<arossdotme-planb>
sata was the old choice :)
<arossdotme-planb>
yea buzz if you want latest fastest, top of the range, top gaming pc type of expense and spec then you want something like eoma-200. its on the elinux wiki
<buZz>
i'll come back in 2020 then
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<GNUtoo-irssi>
arossdotme-planb: what are, practically speaking, the differences between a SATA HDD, and an USB3 one?
<GNUtoo-irssi>
I am used to USB2, so I don't know USB3.
<GNUtoo-irssi>
Are the transport comparable? Same latencies?
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