<mic>
I keep getting an unidentified method "stylesheet_path" while trying to use sinatra with sprockets and sprocket_helper. Can someone give me a hand http://bit.ly/1ypAkLX I am trying to find the correct way to use sprockets with sinatra but can't seem to get it to work
<pkrzywicki>
is there a limited amount of arguments you can pass to the ruby script with ARGV
<zenspider>
pkrzywicki: depends entirely on your OS and/or shell
<pkrzywicki>
linux
<zenspider>
so go ask linux
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<pkrzywicki>
yeah you are useful mate
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<pkrzywicki>
eh
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<zenspider>
pkrzywicki: because I'm running on YOUR system and can tell you what YOU have set up. that's your job.
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL>
digitalcake: uhm, I would abstract it away actually, I mean, whenver you have code that you want to ensure you load records for a specific "apartment" ( lol ), you'll just test that the records you want are returned, not something else. Otherwise, you just ensure apartment.switch is called somewhere with the correct value, aparment gem is tested already by itself
<agent_white>
Don't feed the use of it. It's really not funny unless you're in middleschool and have yet to grow up.
<agent_white>
Cool.
<agent_white>
Don't use it. Grow up.
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<funazarr>
i'm a 5th grader you fucking retard
<agent_white>
It's a "I remember my first beer..." sort of deal. If you actually are an adult, and maybe are around adults, then you won't use it. Persiod.
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<agent_white>
Period* even.
<Diabolik>
this is what happens when you have an irc channel without any ops
<agent_white>
funazarr: I even doubt that.
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<agent_white>
funazarr: If you use that term, you are the scum of the internet. Go away back to your 4chan.
<agent_white>
We don't need or want you here.
<funazarr>
agent_white: if you are a nigger lover/sympathizer you are the scum of humanity
<funazarr>
and you are what's wrong with society
<funazarr>
wake the fuck up
<agent_white>
Diabolik: True, but it's also when idiots encourage idiocracy.
<agent_white>
funazarr: It's funny how you think you're funny.
<agent_white>
funazarr: I bet you and your stuffed animals are giggling to themselves.
<funazarr>
it's funny how you think you're intelligent
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<agent_white>
funazarr: Well you could say being mature is intelligent.
<agent_white>
I'm not you, so that's being intelligent.
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<agent_white>
You're not funny. We don't want you here.
<agent_white>
Leave. Please.
<funazarr>
that's a typical nigger thing to say
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<Diabolik>
funazarr you do realise your IP is in your real name
<agent_white>
"ohaha I'm trolling this guy so bad"
<agent_white>
._.
<funazarr>
niggers aren't known for their high iq
<agent_white>
funazarr: People who think they are trolling aren't known for their iq.
<agent_white>
funazarr: Go back to your xbox.
<agent_white>
funazarr: Ask your mom to make you a quesadilla, and an orange juice.
<funazarr>
you do realize that this is a public connection
<agent_white>
funazarr: Leave. Just leave.
<funazarr>
anyone that isn't ignorant and is educated does not like niggers
<agent_white>
I know I'm feeding a troll, but paste this to your little forum of 'how you trolled somebody on irc lolol'
<agent_white>
Get your kicks out of it. But you are what the internet does not need.
<agent_white>
Typing this out is no harding for me than breathing, so keep it coming.
<funazarr>
the internet does not need niggers, it does not need violence
<agent_white>
So funae
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<agent_white>
funazarr: What's it like having no friends?
<funazarr>
i have a girlfriend retard
<funazarr>
her name is manuela
<agent_white>
funazarr: Screenshotting conversations, sending them to random folks online trying to gain your acceptance to their inbred jokes?
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<agent_white>
funazarr: You probably feel good inside. Like people actually understand and like you. For once in your life.
<agent_white>
Then you get off the computer, and realize it's a lie.
<funazarr>
no, i am mexican and i am too young to have a female girlfriend and that's why i have my girlfriend hand
<funazarr>
her name is manuela
<agent_white>
funazarr: Just... stop. You're not even good at trolling :()
<agent_white>
funazarr: I bet you'll get SO many comments on your LOLTROLLINGRUBYIRC
<agent_white>
It should feel good.
<agent_white>
Pat yourself on the back.
<agent_white>
Twice even.
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<pragmatism>
All, please just ignore them.
<agent_white>
pragmatism: Will do.
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<pragmatism>
So, I had no idea this worked: a, (b, *c) = [1, [2,3,4]; c #=> [3, 4]
<pragmatism>
and it works the other way around too!
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<pragmatism>
Totally not covered in the Pickaxe
<pragmatism>
(may the Thomas forgive me)
<pragmatism>
oh, sorry dude. Not you. I hope.
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<agent_white>
pragmatism: Badass :D
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<pragmatism>
srsly
<pragmatism>
I love this lang
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<pragmatism>
Wish it were a bit more performant, but at least there are patterns around that
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<pragmatism>
<3 EM, Synchrony
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<pragmatism>
DJ is badass too
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<funazarr>
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<FUNAZAAR>
NIGGER
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<ponga>
so racist lol
<FUNAZAAR>
you gotta love free speech lol
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<agent_white>
sofunaelol
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<skinhedz>
heil hitler!
<skinhedz>
we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
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<ponga>
skinhedz: i wonder if hitler hated asians
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<certainty>
wtf
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<ponga>
hi certainty
<certainty>
apeiros_: you're around?
<ponga>
lol
<ponga>
here comes op!
<certainty>
at least i summoned him :)
<agent_white>
certainty: Trying to ping him a bit ago... hope he's here finally.
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<ponga>
pragmatism: there is a project called Jruby/Truffle going on
<ponga>
which , to me, seems to run very very fast
<certainty>
agent_white: yeah already 8 in the morning and he's not at work :p
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<agent_white>
certainty: What a slacker! It's 12am here... he should be on the lines!
<agent_white>
;D
<certainty>
hehe
<ponga>
how many ops are in this channel?
<certainty>
i don't know. i believe more than one though :)
<ponga>
don't tell me we only have apeiros_ in a channel with 880 people occupied
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<wasamasa>
no, we don't
<ponga>
hi wasamasa
<wasamasa>
apeiros_ is just the most prominent one
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<ponga>
lone time
<agent_white>
ponga: "/msg ChanServ ACCESS #ruby LIST" will tell you.
<wasamasa>
I can remember at least banister and Mongey_
<wasamasa>
err, Mon_Ouie
<certainty>
also Mon_Quie
<Mongey_>
-_-
<certainty>
yeah
<wasamasa>
but he's not here ._.
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<certainty>
nope, but these guys are silent now anyway as it seems
<agent_white>
No doubt... I fed them enough :(
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<agent_white>
I'm too good a troll target... some of them just annoy me to no end. Just makes me wonder what those folks are like in real life ya know?
<totimkopf>
:(
<wasamasa>
people tell me I'd make a good co-worker
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<certainty>
agent_white: like 8years old i bet
<wasamasa>
others tell me online I should troll less
<certainty>
hehe
<certainty>
trolling is ok, as long as you have to say something substantial too from time to time
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<ponga>
agent_white: do people troll you for your nickname?
<ponga>
:P
<certainty>
at least that's my view on that matter
<wasamasa>
but ok, to answer your question, I remember a german news article about a heise.de troll
<wasamasa>
he was a 60 years old geezer
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<totimkopf>
has anyone looked at the Ruby Association certification? seems like it would be at least kind of fun to take an exam about ruby, even if it's a waste of $150
<wasamasa>
and just wanted to stir things up
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<certainty>
wasamasa: the heise trolls (at least some of them) are fun actually and they are knowledgable (ok not all of them)
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<wasamasa>
certainty: I dunno man, I find it pretty bad to read that really dry kind of humour in the comments
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<certainty>
wasamasa: yeah you probably have to like that kind of stuff
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<certainty>
i find it amusing most of the time
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<shevy>
certainty are you trolling again or is this ur mom typing
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<ponga>
hi shevy
<shevy>
hey ponga
<certainty>
shevy: it's your mom, she hasn't left yet
<shevy>
won't be here for long, have to leave home soon
<ponga>
we just had racist troll shouting nigger nigger endlessly
<ponga>
ohhhhhh
<certainty>
shevy: she will be home soon, though :)
<shevy>
cool
<ponga>
certainty:
<ponga>
good one
<ponga>
its like first time me seeing shevy leaving home?
<ponga>
does shevy ever leave his home
<shevy>
certainty we can continue once I am home again! but that will be in some hours from now
<ponga>
i thought this channel was his home
<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
when I am not typing here
<shevy>
either I am not home, or I am sleeping
<certainty>
shevy: sure, where are you? somewhere in austria?
<ponga>
so basically when shevy is 1) home and 2) not asleep , he is in #ruby
<shevy>
certainty yeah, almost in central vienna too \o/ but I have to drive some way north soon
<ponga>
lol
<shevy>
also it's cold outside
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<ponga>
wasn't shevy american? why is he in austria?
<shevy>
no the austrian in america is schwarzenegger
<certainty>
nah he's from austria as far as i know
<ponga>
sorry shevy
<totimkopf>
I guess nobody gives a hill of beans about the Ruby Association Certification ;)
<ponga>
and im impressed how you spelled schwarzenegger correctly
<ponga>
i'd never get it right
<shevy>
certifications versus skills totimkopf!!!
<certainty>
totimkopf: i just checked it. It may be worth a shot
<ponga>
i would want my doctor to have certificates, but not for my ruby coders
<totimkopf>
lol
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<ponga>
isn't ruby all about being lazy hippy coder?
<totimkopf>
I see it as something fun to do
<ponga>
selfish coder who only endevours his happiness?
<shevy>
ponga he was from middle austria... they have a strange dialect; western austria is all about snow, skiing ... eastern austria I dunno, only real town in that country and even then it does not even have 2 million people. compare that to new york, london, paris... everything is small here!
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<ponga>
and what's this certificate
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<shevy>
ruby is about code poetry that works
<totimkopf>
I don't think I'd be able to get a job with a programming certification alone, anyway
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<certainty>
totimkopf: wenn man nicht ganz tot im kopf ist, sollte das auch machbar sein :p
<shevy>
totimkopf ah so you just add to a portfolio
<ponga>
certainty: now you sound savage
<shevy>
"I passed the monkey-dancing course. Will I get this job?"
<ponga>
i wonder why
<ponga>
this g-ermanic language
<totimkopf>
lol the monkey-dancing course
<ponga>
notice, g is pronounced as g in game here!
<certainty>
ponga: hehe, just a pun on his nick. :)
<shevy>
ponga well germanic-like languages are a bit weird. not very beautiful phonetically. but you should try to listen to finnish!
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<totimkopf>
I quit my PHP job to become proficient in ruby, am I a ruby fan boy or what?
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<ponga>
shevy: how does our language sound to you guys?
<ponga>
japanese/korean
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<ponga>
im sure some both japanese/korean be butthurt about putting these 2 langs together :P
<shevy>
well
<shevy>
both languages sound very different to me
<certainty>
totimkopf: quitting the PHP job is a smart move most of the time
<ponga>
trust me kor/jap are like Ruby and Jruby
<totimkopf>
certainty: ^_^
<certainty>
no matter what you do afterwarts
<ponga>
well not really tho
<totimkopf>
certainty: lol, even being a janitor?
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<shevy>
ponga japanese sounded easier to me than korean
<tacotaco_>
Finnish is awesome
<ponga>
is it becoming popular recently to mock PHP in ruby channel ?
<certainty>
totimkopf: depends. it may give you loads of time to do other things
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<shevy>
ponga but the hardest was chinese mainstream mandarin
<ponga>
shevy: less vowels , no ending syllable
<ponga>
sure
<shevy>
yeah
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<totimkopf>
ponga: every channel that isn't PHP tends to mock PHP :p
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<ponga>
totimkopf: so basically everyone loves PHP other than PHP channel?
<ponga>
:P
<certainty>
ponga: it's populare to mock PHP in ever channel that is not #php
<totimkopf>
ponga: basically :p
<shevy>
php just makes me sad
<ponga>
did i get this right?!
<ponga>
no wonder its always a good idea to quit PHP job to start loving PHP
<ponga>
haha
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<totimkopf>
ponga: whaaat
<certainty>
php is one of the hardest languages to program in. so much accidental complexity. you can't really concentrate on the real problem
<ponga>
shevy: once upon a day, i stepped into ##Haskell and asked if haskell was useful in any means (trust me, i wan't trolling, i was a super-noob back then)
<ponga>
and i encountered this horde of
<ponga>
you guess
<shevy>
haha
<shevy>
I still wonder today
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<totimkopf>
haskell is useful, it just has a steep learning curve
<shevy>
well haskell I find very hard
<shevy>
php I did not find hard but very ugly and inconsistent
<ponga>
certainty: that sounds like Java to me
<shevy>
hehehehe
<certainty>
totimkopf: depends. but it tends to be steeper for programmers used to other paradigms
<ponga>
"php is one of the hardest languages to program in. so much accidental complexity. you can't really concentrate on the real problem"
<shevy>
well ponga... all programming languages can be quite complex
<ponga>
now replace PHP with Java
<ponga>
"Java is one of the hardest languages to program in. so much accidental complexity. you can't really concentrate on the real problem"
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<ponga>
so much accidental complexity
<ponga>
hmmm
<shevy>
don't forget the verbosity of java!
<ponga>
we never do shevy
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<ponga>
did i tell you my first lang and book for learning programming was in java
<totimkopf>
I'm glad I fell in love with ruby
<certainty>
i don't know about java. i only did it a bit
<shevy>
there is one guy who blogs about his projects
<shevy>
he wrote a game in java that has like 500.000 lines of code
<shevy>
and one day he gave up
<certainty>
whenever i have to deal with the jvm i prefer to do it through clojure
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<totimkopf>
certainty: why not jruby? :p
<ponga>
shevy: you told me back then
<ponga>
but many games are written in ruby aren't they?
<ponga>
like minecraft
<totimkopf>
minecraft is written in ruby? o_O
<ponga>
no
<ponga>
java
<ponga>
oh sorry
<certainty>
totimkopf: well because if i use the jvm it means that i most likely had the opportunity to pick my language of choice. i like ruby but if i can have a lisp i'll take the lisp :)
<ponga>
ma mistake
<shevy>
yeah I think so
<ponga>
mine too love of ruby makes me mis-write other lang name into ruby
<shevy>
because games are so complex
<ponga>
dang!
<agent_white>
ponga: No noone trolls me for my nickname ;P Though maybe actually funny "trolls" (if that) asking me what the govt is up to, where "agent_orange" is and why he was in vietnam, etc.
<shevy>
they need complex languages :)
<totimkopf>
certainty: okay, LISP is nice
<shevy>
certainty (why(do(you(like(lisp
<totimkopf>
(isn't ruby considered a LISP, though?)
<shevy>
((yes it is totimkopf))
<wasamasa>
totimkopf: not really
<wasamasa>
totimkopf: too much magic for that going on
<ponga>
agent_white: can i ask a question to you in a manner troll
<ponga>
like "when are you going to deport me"
<certainty>
shevy: because i'm weired?
<shevy>
wired?
<totimkopf>
weird and wired
<certainty>
that too
<ponga>
shevy: to me C# seemed to be a really good lang that could support both simple scripting work and complex tasks
<shevy>
I just looked... I have to leave not soon but in 2 hours... the schedule has been pushed back by 2 hours, now I wonder what I shall do with these +2 hours...
<totimkopf>
redbull + pink tophat = weired
<ponga>
to me, C# looked like a better version of java with less verbosity and make a sense
<shevy>
ponga yeah but see I wonder... what language do you want to pick... C or C++ or C# or Java
<certainty>
ponga: if i had to target the CLR i'd give F# a spin
<agent_white>
ponga: :P I suppose so! -- Using obvious grammer such as that "troll" was only shows the lack humor an creativity.
<ponga>
i'd defntly pick C# shevy
<shevy>
but the linux kernel is written in C!
<ponga>
nobody's interested in linux shevy
<ponga>
nobody in real life
<totimkopf>
;[
<shevy>
yeah there are mac users here
<totimkopf>
ponga: I'm not a real life person
<ponga>
i was joking shevy lol
<totimkopf>
I use both, linux and mac
<nii236|irssi>
I will be a mac version as soon as work finally gives me the one promised to me months ago
<shevy>
no I mean there are more mac users here on #ruby I think than linux users
<nii236|irssi>
Here I am using the Surface Pro 3 like a chump
<ponga>
but tbh if i were to write anymore of a complex app project that ruby is not good enough, i'd go for C#
<totimkopf>
shevy: what, do you version everyone?
<shevy>
hmm
<ponga>
i.e. desktop app
<shevy>
totimkopf kinda!
<totimkopf>
VERSION
<ponga>
shevy: why would you not write a desktop app with C#? its very good lang
<shevy>
totimkopf there are really many mac users here... apeiros_ .... havenwood ... hmm
<shevy>
ponga dunno. I have ruby-gnome
<shevy>
I am sorry, I like ruby way too much
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<certainty>
totimkopf: not before the third date
<ponga>
does anyone use ruby (not rails) on windows anyway
<ponga>
i believe almost everyone here is either on mac or linux
<nii236|irssi>
ponga: I am... in a Linux VM
<shevy>
well my ruby code should work on windows but I dont really use windows so I cant always test
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<totimkopf>
ponga: yeah, there is a rails app that runs only on windows it's by spiceworks.com... there is some dude that I talked to in this channel who works for them, said all the dev work is done in UNIX and compiled into some funky windows app
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<panda__>
I want to learn data structures and algorithms
<panda__>
Is Ruby the language for that?
<panda__>
And if so, which book should I use?
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<certainty>
panda__: what kind of data structures and algorithms? (generally you can use ruby for that)
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<shevy>
panda__ you can learn concepts in every language. ruby array and ruby hashes are examples for data structures. Struct.new allows you to arbitrarily define data; methods allow you to query the data. method_missing and other hooks allow you to do actions - activerecord has a lot of extra ways to describe stuff
<shevy>
as for algorithms, that is maths really!
<panda__>
certainty: i just want to learn
<panda__>
so, any books?
<shevy>
panda__ I guess most people will go C
<panda__>
damn
<ponga>
why is it very difficult to find a video tutorial without a gay voice
<ponga>
:(
<ddv>
I'm having hard time figuring out where the **** UDPSocket is defined in the std lib
<panda__>
was trying to avoid c at all costs because i spent the past two years trying to learn it and failed
<certainty>
panda__: i like okasaki's "purely functional data structures" also "pearls of functional algorithm design" from richard bird. but for those, ruby is not the best choice
<strsep>
Maybe programming just isn't for you panda.
<ddv>
ip_socket.rb or something
<shevy>
ponga you need professional speakers :)
<strsep>
I think Java is excellent for algorithmic design.
<shevy>
panda__ k then use a simpler language, and learn it. R is a good language, not only for statistics
<panda__>
sigh
<shevy>
lots of algorithms from bioinformatics there like DESeq, levensthein distance calculations and so forth
<panda__>
thanks guys
<ponga>
shevy: pun?
<panda__>
certainty: i will try to figure it out
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<panda__>
im currently trying to learn rails
<panda__>
via video
<panda__>
:/
<shevy>
no R is really like the second cornerstone of bioinformatics. 20 years ago it was perl too but we need to chop perl out of the game
<panda__>
stuk.io lol
<shevy>
ack rails
<panda__>
but once i figure that and ruby out
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<panda__>
i will want to learn red black trees etc
<panda__>
and make really good code
<shevy>
maths maths maths
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<strsep>
You can't really avoid learning low-level languages if you want to become proficient.
<certainty>
shevy's got tourette syndrome
<shevy>
certainty yeah it is true
<shevy>
I am a tourette hipster
<strsep>
shevy, there's very little mathematics involved, really.
<certainty>
:)
<strsep>
SICP may be a good resource, but if mathematics is a problem, you might just want to try plumbing instead.
<panda__>
plumbing is a gem?
<ddv>
panda__: you rarely have to create a binary search tree yourself in ruby, most datastructures already use those algorithms
<certainty>
+1 for SICP
<shevy>
+1 for free sex
<certainty>
every programmer should read that book IMHO
<shevy>
what is SICP?
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<certainty>
probably not my best day to give advices
<shevy>
in ruby you can often pick either variant
<shevy>
it's just minor
<certainty>
in scheme you can't :p
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<shevy>
when you have to look at datasets in the range of terabytes from different genomes or alternatively spliced transcriptomes then you can't effectuveky talk with these guys without knowing maths because their language is all about maths :(
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<certainty>
crazy guys speak in math
<certainty>
and klingon, but only if they're drunk
<totimkopf>
is there a channel for soliciting ruby jobs on freenode?
<totimkopf>
if there isn't a channel for soliciting ruby jobs on freenode, would it be a good idea to start one? what do you guys think?
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<wasamasa>
I don't think freenode's aim is facilitating job search
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<totimkopf>
yeah, that's true
<wasamasa>
so, if it comes to the worst, it would be an inofficial channel
<wasamasa>
and the interest rather low
<shevy>
good that #ruby is an official channel
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<shevy>
totimkopf I still think that your nick rules
<totimkopf>
shevy: thank you ^_^
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<totimkopf>
I think your nick rules too
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<certainty>
yeah you're both cool and now get yourself together and stop grabbing your asses and go back to work!
<shevy>
dunno... people tease me thinking that it is a chevy
<shevy>
certainty 1 hour left, then I am gone!
<certainty>
hehe
<certainty>
no, i like you around
<shevy>
is this about ur mom again
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<totimkopf>
haha
<certainty>
nope
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<penzur>
hello
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<penzur>
:D
<shevy>
hi panzer!
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<shevy>
certainty speaking about panzer ... there was a documentary on BBC, by a british speaker, really awesome speaker... when he said "panzer division" that did sound so strange. I always thought they were just called tanks
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<certainty>
shevy: yeah i thought so too. many terms are just used literally though. i have the feeling it even get more
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<certainty>
but it's also the other way around. when i'm talking to my colleagues it's a weired mixture of german and english
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<shevy>
hehehe
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<SHyx0rmZ>
they're sneakily using what's called Denglish :D
<wasamasa>
denglish ftw
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<certainty>
yeah
<wasamasa>
hinterhofenglisch is also great
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<shevy>
lol
<wasamasa>
"I'll bring you round the corner!"
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<avril14th>
morning
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<grn>
Hi! Could someone explain how to push a local git branch to a remote using Rugged?
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<tobiasvl>
what's rugged?
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<tobiasvl>
oh
<tobiasvl>
I had it starred in github actually
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<grn>
I'd like to know whether there is a proper way of pushing before I resort to system("git push ...") ;-)
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<grn>
I'm in the middle of automating a part of my workflow: creating a branch named #{issue_id}-#{issue_title}, pushing to GitHub and creating a PR assigned to the right person.
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<joonty>
bonjourno
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<joonty>
*buonjourno
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<oddmunds>
bonbonjonjon
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<strsep>
Yet another one of these. Wish people would just accept reading books. http://www.stuk.io
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<workmad3>
strsep: but books don't offer you your dream app!
* hanmac1
feels old because he doesnt understand that "app" shit everyone is so much hyper about ...
<hanmac1>
yeah i have some apps on my mobile phone for puplic traffice lines or similar but i dont go hyper about that
<hanmac1>
and i still think that some "applications" doesnt make sense on mobile or tablets
<workmad3>
hanmac1: afaict, 'app' basically means 'trivial shit that for some reason everyone goes batshit insane about because it's on a phone'
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<hanmac1>
yeah just like some movies or series which is just "older series but IN SPACE!" ;P
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<workmad3>
hanmac1: and I guess they shortened 'application' to 'app' because mobiles and tablets are smaller than laptops and desktops, so they need smaller descriptions?
<workmad3>
less space on the packaging and all that
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<hanmac1>
or maybe the normal customers doesnt understand longer words ...
<workmad3>
I think the term was coined by apple... so yeah, quite likely ;)
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<dANOKELOFF>
Hi i have a basic question, How i can list all object was created during the last month ?
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<wasamasa>
that sounds more like a database question, doesn't it
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<tobiasvl>
objects that exist in the current scope of a ruby app that has been running for a month…?
<dANOKELOFF>
I just want something like this : Article.where(user_id: 1, created_at: last.month) = and return all articles created during the last month so in January for example
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<workmad3>
dANOKELOFF: a) #rubyonrails, b) created_at: (1.month.ago.start_of_month..1.month.ago.end_of_month)
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<workmad3>
(assuming you want stuff that was created in the previous calendar month... if you want literally 1 month ago, then do '(1.month.ago..Date.today)'
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<tobiasvl>
aha, rails.
<dANOKELOFF>
workmad3, sorry for ask question in bad group. and now just the object created at 1 to 30
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<last_staff>
does ruby care about indentation like python does?
<tobiasvl>
no
<last_staff>
thx
<certainty>
yeah thx matz
<P-NuT>
Hi all, does anyone know if compiling ruby by hand results in a much faster and leaner ruby install and start time on arm chips like the raspberry pi?
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<last_staff>
have you tried to time the difference?
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<last_staff>
if you haven't, and you do, I'd like to know the result
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<keksike>
when I type in "rake", I get rbenv: version `1.9.3-p125' is not installed
<keksike>
rbenv: version `1.9.3-p125' is not installed
<DefV>
When I type rake it runs my default task
<DefV>
crazy right
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<keksike>
DefV: umm yeah sorry I had to go afk
<keksike>
so umm
<keksike>
id like it to run my default task rather than say that, what do? I have ruby 1.9.3-p125 installed
<keksike>
installed it through a rvm which was installed with brew
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<shevy>
P-NuT normally it will be slightly faster but it depends on the build; most default builds from a package are not optimized, you on the other hand can set CFLAGS and other things to compile a more adjusted ruby
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<ddv>
keksike: because there is probaly a .ruby-version file in that dir?
<ddv>
and you don't have that version installed
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<P-NuT>
shevy: I wonder if this would make much of a difference on armv6l architecture like the Raspberry Pi which is already starved for resources...
<shevy>
probably not
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<shevy>
do you know mruby?
<shevy>
it should have been created because of embedded systems becoming more important
<canton7>
seem to be the bot, rather than eval.in the service
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<pico-pete>
anyone know of a faster version of ngrok?
<avril14th>
ok, my trouble is that I have such a hash { '€' => } and when getting hash['€'] is returns nil
<avril14th>
same with hash.keys.include? '€' returns false
<avril14th>
any clue on what's going on?
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<pico-pete>
what do you expect to get?
<avril14th>
true :)
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<avril14th>
>> h = { '€' => 1 }; h['?']
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<avril14th>
I tried on tryruby.org
<avril14th>
it's funny
<avril14th>
actually "€" is replaced by "?"
<avril14th>
what the...
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<mikecmpbll>
avril14th: wat?
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<mikecmpbll>
ah
<mikecmpbll>
that's just an eval-in__ problem by the looks fo it
<mikecmpbll>
>> h = { '€' => 1 }; h.key?('€')
<avril14th>
mikecmpbll: tryruby.org, try this h = { '€' => 1 }; h
<avril14th>
this also fails in my app
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<mikecmpbll>
you can't do h = { '€' => 1 }; h.key?('€') in IRB?
<mikecmpbll>
(and get true)
<waxjar>
sounds like an encoding issue
<mikecmpbll>
because I can.
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<avril14th>
well I can in my console, and I can't in my app
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<avril14th>
funnier
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<avril14th>
waxjar: you're right it is
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<hanmac1>
"when you exclude everything possible, the remaining is a encoding issue" ;P
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<tobiasvl>
encoding, one of the great unsolved problems in computer science
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<jhass>
I think it's solved
<jhass>
we just need to drop everything except UTF-8 and ASCII
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<mikecmpbll>
took me a whole week once to solve an issue with a HTTP post with an XML payload failing
<mikecmpbll>
turns out some shitty windows encoding on the XML
<hanmac1>
hm or there should be encapsuled data which always says about which encoding it is
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<jhass>
people mess these up, http can specify it, html can specify it, mime can specify it
<jhass>
yet people just put nothing or the wrong stuff there
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<mikecmpbll>
we sometimes receive soap messages with one encoding on the http, a different encoding on the soap xml, and a different encoding on the xml payload in the soap message
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<Caelum>
Hello I have a simple problem, I made a little uudecode script, but using "print" does not expand the \n in the decoded string: http://gist.github.com/208faf83186cae34b603
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<hanmac1>
shevy this is valid: Foo['abc'].() { :some_data_in_a_block }
<Caelum>
and if I use puts it inserts an extra newline
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<shevy>
hanmac1 ah cool
<shevy>
so it can actually work
<shevy>
hey wait hanmac
<shevy>
this is not the same is it? that tries to invoke .call
<shevy>
Foo['abc'].() { :some_data_in_a_block }
<shevy>
NoMethodError: undefined method `call' for nil:NilClass
<shevy>
hmm
<workmad3>
shevy: .() is an alias for .call
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<shevy>
Caelum yeah puts wants to add a newline, unless there already is one
<workmad3>
shevy: which is different from Foo.[]('abc')
<shevy>
workmad3 ah ok
<shevy>
I never knew that .() is an alias to .call()
<DefV>
it is since 1.9
<Caelum>
shevy: but if I use print I get a bunch of literal \ns in my output instead of newlines
<workmad3>
you can also use [] on a proc to call it
<shevy>
the better mountain tool makes you the better climber even when you are drunk!
<agent_white>
For instance, I argued earlier tonight with someone who said that in ruby, accessing an element out of the scope of the array (or however you call it, a[100] in a 3 ele array) shoudl raise an error instead of nil.
<shevy>
in a pub brawl the mountain tool is also useful because you can SMASH the folks down there
<shevy>
and just like batmans batmobile or the transformers, you can change your tools into something else!
<agent_white>
i told him, that maybe instead he should realize that ruby returns nil, and to deal with nil.
<shevy>
except for speed... when it comes to speed then ruby loses :(
<shevy>
and documentation
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<agent_white>
True. But if we wanted speed and doc, everyone would be programming in C.
<certainty>
or OCaml
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<shevy>
agent_white yeah but to be honest... the concept of raising errors versus continuing often confuses me
<agent_white>
We'd wear suits and ties to work... sip coffee at the same moment...
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<shevy>
I am notoriously lazy when it comes to raise exceptions... I am more like "hey I don't care what you do, give me any useful output and don't crash ever"
<agent_white>
shevy: To me... it only means "If nil is an issue, why aren't you dealing with it?"
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<certainty>
crash early and loud
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<shevy>
doesn't erlang go on and on?
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<shevy>
I feel like that is how systems should be... they should handle things as long as they can... like an animal body
<certainty>
shevy: or your mom's body
<shevy>
:(
<certainty>
ok that was rude
<agent_white>
certainty: True... but I guess for that guy, he expected that nil val to HALT everything. Rather than pass it onto tht next thing.
<shevy>
well ok
<shevy>
there was a limitation because bodies have a finite lifespan
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<agent_white>
Unlike his Mom.
<shevy>
so we need to aim more like those big trees or fungi networks that reach like 10.000 years or so
<certainty>
agent_white: yeah probably not the best assumption
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<certainty>
shevy: actually erlang prefers to crash early
<agent_white>
certainty: On which?
<certainty>
but it has strategies to recover
<agent_white>
certainty: ;) But srsly.
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<shevy>
or all life on earth, if you combine it together, it never "dies", if you think of gaia as a whole living ecosystem
<shevy>
certainty it does?
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<shevy>
what a pitiful language it is
<agent_white>
I told him to "cater to ruby... ruby caters to (him) more than enough."
<certainty>
shevy: yes it does
<shevy>
I now hate erlang
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<agent_white>
I hate
<agent_white>
Smokesignals
<agent_white>
and... salmon
<agent_white>
I hate salmon
<certainty>
shevy: never heard the "let it crash" quote?
<agent_white>
I want smoked ham
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<agent_white>
d/ws
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<agent_white>
Strategies to recover... why make it recover automagically?
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<agent_white>
ztaj that swim!
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<agent_white>
And jatz that fly!
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<gregf__>
Harlin: what shevy said. if ( Dir["*.txt"].size ); puts "whatever" ;end
<workmad3>
gregf__: you need a check for 0 (or not 0) there
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<workmad3>
0 isn't falsey in ruby ;)
<gregf__>
ah - i know; sorry din test it :/
<gregf__>
if ( Dir["*.txt"].size() <= 0 ); puts "whatever";end
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<jefus>
Dir['*.txt'].empty?
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<shevy>
agent_white hey... jefus nick starts with a j too!
<jefus>
i was never here!
* jefus
vanishes in a puff of smoke.
<shevy>
:-)
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<jefus>
puts "whatever" if Dir['*.txt'].empty?
<jefus>
looks sexier
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<agent_white>
jefus: We aren't ones to ignore and 'ol wizard smoke like it's a fume off a train! What do you take us for, cooks of parallel fantasies?!
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<jefus>
yes, but you use way too much oil.
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* agent_white
POOFS into samespot
<agent_white>
jefus: Well... what do you take us for...
<agent_white>
;D
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<jefus>
i...
<jefus>
well,
<jefus>
> undef jefus
* agent_white
POOFS
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<shevy>
agent_white don't poops man
<agent_white>
shevy: I just get a little excited sometimes
<Diabolik>
hello everyone
<agent_white>
You know... it happens.
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<jefus>
stimulants will do that... coffee...
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<greenarrow>
jefus nice
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<jefus>
just for P-NuT to show another concatenation if he needs more than 2
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<Harlin>
sorry for being such a ruby noob.... I am trying to do require_relative and am unable to use the variables declared from the require file. http://pastebin.com/ghKf62g8 I must be doing something simply wrong.
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<Harlin>
I am wondering if importing a file called main.rb might be a problem.... dunno.
<Mon_Ouie>
Require runs in a different scope, without sharing local variables
<Mon_Ouie>
Don't use local variables for something that isn't actually local
<Mon_Ouie>
(You can use e.g. constants)
<Harlin>
thanks Mon_Ouie ... hmm
<Harlin>
I'm going to need to be able to "import" several files to loop through ... converting a bash program to ruby :)
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<Harlin>
maybe I can come up with a different way... so.... if I just create one file with a hash structure is it possible to import the hash variable from the file?
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<workmad3>
Harlin: if you assign to a local variable in one file, it won't be visible in the scope of the other file
<workmad3>
Harlin: doesn't matter what it is... that's just not a thing you can use local variables for
<Harlin>
ok thanks workmad3
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<shevy>
Harlin that is very simple
<shevy>
just try to recreate the functionality of what the shell script does
<shevy>
rather than a 1:1 copy of the code
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<shevy>
Harlin if you really must import data from the top namespace, you can always use a constant like HASH = {}
<shevy>
a much nicer way is to put this into a common namespace
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<shevy>
module Foo; HASH = {}; end
<Harlin>
shevy, yeah going to try json format
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<eam>
you can use load(), no?
<shevy>
another option would be to use @foo variables rather than foo, or much better, if you use an object that has both the data and behaviour you need
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<shevy>
btw Harlin you can simplify this a bit if you want to: artifacts = ["/etc/hosts", "/etc/mysql/my.cnf"]
<shevy>
but if you have an array with like 20 entries, it is nicer to omit the '"' and the ',' characters
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<eam>
shevy: eh just eval File.read
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<shevy>
hehe
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<Harlin>
shevy, well some of them have many paths in it. so that's going to be helpful
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<gregf__>
Harlin: what do those scripts do? you could either map them into classes(if they do specific tasks) and build a nice framework thats reusable or move them into ruby scripts(which wont be reusable)?
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<gregf__>
but yeah, ruby code would be prolly 1/10'th the shell code you'll need to write :)
<Harlin>
they are backup scripts written by someone in the past who used to work here. there are some extra functionality now required (simple in ruby probably but not so much in bash) gregf__
<Harlin>
I am solid in Python and Java but thought I'd this would be a great opportunity to take a crack at in ruby
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<gregf__>
bash is bad for sure. but you can surely translate bash to ruby quite easily
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<Harlin>
it's good for running commands and doing a few loops and that sort of thing but once the app starts to require a little more logic, it loses some of its appeal :)
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<gregf__>
if you're solid in Java and Python, that should help you get going thinking in a Object Orientated way
<epitron>
Ruby is great for shell scripts
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<epitron>
IO.popen and system rule
<epitron>
slop gem, ARGF
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<shevy>
THEN WHY DO YOU TYPE IN CAPS
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<shevy>
ARE YOUR FINGERS SO THICK
<jefus>
because i've maybe 5 or 10 pounds of beer belly
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<jefus>
it's not the syntactic sugar, man
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<eam>
caps save bandwidth because the ascii ordinal values are smaller
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<jefus>
this is 100% accurate.
<shevy>
hmm 10 pounds beer belly
<shevy>
that is a function of age :(
<shevy>
cool
<shevy>
so caps help save the climate
<jefus>
eventually
<eam>
every little bit helps
<jefus>
it does cost less carbon to process caps
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<eam>
honestly, ruby is one of the least carbon-friendly languages
<ilteris>
hey guys, when I run "ruby" in terminal in yosemite I get "incorrect checksum for freed object error". does anyone know how can I completely remove it from my system and install it fresh?
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<jefus>
eam, you're probably right
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<mikecmpbll>
someone say beer?
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<shevy>
eam now that is not nice to say
<shevy>
what about perl!
<eam>
shevy: perl is a hell of a lot more efficient
<jefus>
perl is a coal plant
<jefus>
mikecmpbll: i said i'm out of it at the moment
<shevy>
ilteris that error sounds strange
<mikecmpbll>
:'(
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<eam>
the problem is it melts our brains, and our brains are our future
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<shevy>
ilteris I can't believe that this happens. surely something must be aliased to "ruby". when I type "ruby", it simply waits for more input
<jefus>
but our liquid brains can be used as fuel for our overlords
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<shevy>
liquid brains???
<shevy>
what do you have in your head man!
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<jefus>
unspeakable things.
<shevy>
hehehe
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<eam>
mmm sesos
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<epitron>
Brew up some rubies then
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<eam>
ilteris: did you brew install ruby before upgrading to yosomite?
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<ilteris>
would that overwrite this sick ruby?
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<epitron>
It would if brew is setup properly
<eam>
wipe out and rebuild all your brew installs after updating OSX
<epitron>
Oh, that could be what happened
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<epitron>
(Sorry, not a Mac user)
<eam>
me either when I can help it
<ilteris>
eam no. after upgrading to yosemite it stopped working and I followed some website instructions to fix it which made it worse. but this was back in the beta, so I don't recall the website.
<shevy>
<-- linux here
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<shevy>
careful with those random websites
<epitron>
I agree with eam
<eam>
ilteris: yeah just reinstall from brew, maybe also update xcode
<epitron>
Nuke brew
<ilteris>
lesson learned shevy
<epitron>
Reinstall fresh
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<shevy>
:)
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<eam>
osx linker is extremely finicky
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<epitron>
Way to link
<eam>
all kinds of crazy things change
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<epitron>
No linking ability
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<ilteris>
Error: ruby-1.9.2-p180 already installed To install this version, first `brew unlink ruby'
<ilteris>
following brew instructions
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<ilteris>
fixed!
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<ilteris>
thanks everyone
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<dolf>
Hi folks, I' ve got an array that looks like [['foo','bar'], ['bar','foo']], how could I easily convert it to something like this? [{ 'key1' => 'foo', 'key2' => 'bar'}, {'key1' => 'bar', 'key2' => 'foo' }]
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<havenwood>
dolf: #map it
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<shevy>
when I do "pp object", does one of you know how to pad this display? like I want to add ' ' on each line there
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<shevy>
I find ruby docu so hard to read :(
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<dolf>
hmz, I didn't even know pp, go figure... Anyways, I need to go. Perhaps someone else is able to help you!
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<GaryOak_>
they are better than pythons docs
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<jgt>
ruby docs are sooooooooo nice
<jgt>
trust me, I write scala in my day job
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<epitron>
shevy: yeah, the ruby docs need work
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<GaryOak_>
I don't particularly like the ruby doc ones compared to pythons readthedocs
<wallerdev>
i hate python docs
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<wallerdev>
can never find anything haha
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<GaryOak_>
I think they just had different use cases that work better
<epitron>
shevy: BTW, ryanf hacked pp to display colourized output in pry
<epitron>
You might want to look at that code if you want to customize pp
<epitron>
(It should be in the pry repo)
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<shevy>
epitron hmm
<shevy>
I think awesome_print also has that, thing is pp is distributed with standard ruby
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<shevy>
or perhaps I'll just start to use something else other than pp
<shevy>
sp
<shevy>
shevy_print
<shevy>
nah, sp is a silly name... hmm
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<wallerdev>
pp is a silly name
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<last_staff>
what's the EOF called, in $script = <<EOF ?
<wallerdev>
hm
<wallerdev>
heredoc something
<wallerdev>
heredoc delimeter maybe
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<last_staff>
kk, I'll look for it
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<last_staff>
wallerdev: thanks a lot, found exactly what it is, now :D
<last_staff>
"In computer science, a here document (here-document, heredoc, hereis, here-string or here-script) is a file literal or input stream literal:" -Wikipedia
<wallerdev>
np
<wallerdev>
yup
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<epitron>
shevy: pp is customizable, is what i'm saying... and ryanf figured out how to do it :)
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<epitron>
making it colorized was just a matter of modifying how it displays objects
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<apeiros_>
wow, not even a full minute of patience.
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<pragmatism>
works for me.
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<pragmatism>
2.1.5
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<solars>
hi, I've got ruby code to test performance (rails rspec in this case) - and I need to find out where (methods, db) most of the time is spent. can anyone recommend something to track this?
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<pragmatism>
RubyProf
<pragmatism>
et. al.
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<pragmatism>
There was a really good talk on profiling at RailsConf this year, check ConFreaks.
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<pragmatism>
solars
<solars>
hm which one? found one from 2013 $log.info("Found parent budget to use from #{parent_budget.property_id} channel #{channel_id}") if(parent_budget)
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<GaryOak_>
the only downside is it doesn't have subcommands
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<bonhoeffer>
i want to auto-download some back statements, how might i authenticate with ruby?
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<wallerdev>
bonhoeffer: might try your luck with mechanize
<bonhoeffer>
cool — thanks for the pointer
<bonhoeffer>
but . . . why try my luck — is not a stable solution?
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<wallerdev>
it's stable but the web is complicated
<wallerdev>
and bank websites are usually the worst written websites
<wallerdev>
haha
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<wallerdev>
might end up wanting to use something like phantomjs if javascript is required to login
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<bonhoeffer>
well, it would be some good learning in any case
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<rbennacer>
f234
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<Fraeon>
That's a shitty move
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<Fraeon>
Why use that when you can use df12?
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<shevy>
lol
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<spicymagpie>
hi, sorry for the quit flood. how's life?
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<wallerdev>
life's good
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<bricker>
people keep joins/quits turned on?
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<bricker>
What use do you get from that info
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<wallerdev>
i keep it on
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<wallerdev>
helps to know when someone you're talking to has left
<wallerdev>
so you don't keep talking to them
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<weaksauce>
wallerdev I just use tab completion to that end.
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<wallerdev>
well if youre typing something out that is multiple lines of discussion i dont tend to tab complete someones name everytime
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<wallerdev>
but yeah thats my reasoning, doesnt bother me much i mentally filter out joins/parts for the most part
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<hesco>
I've run into an issue installing ruby with rbenv, described here: https://gist.github.com/hesco/f6b01bb1f7babab38537 Can anyone suggest what package might be missing in my ubuntu environment, please?
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<wallerdev>
not sure how rbenv works but looks like an issue with installing readine
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<wallerdev>
maybe try installing a more recent version of ruby
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<ellisTAA>
i’m learning about discrete math right now, specifically combinatorics, i was wondering how often this stuff becomes useful as someone who uses RoR?
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<havenwood>
ellisTAA: The best place for Rails question is #RubyOnRails.
<ellisTAA>
havenwood: ty
<havenwood>
ellisTAA: np
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<havenwood>
hesco: ruby-install will use your package manager to install the correct dependencies, and works with rbenv (though I'd recommend chruby): https://github.com/postmodern/ruby-install#readme
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<havenwood>
hesco: for example, ruby-install of latest stabel for rbenv would be: ruby-install --install-dir ~/.rbenv/versions/2.2.0 ruby 2.2.0
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<havenwood>
s/stabel/stable
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<hesco>
havenwood: thanks. though I am already installing that one. From my gist: require => [ Package['libreadline-dev'],
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<hesco>
looks like folks have been busy since my last successful use of my puppet manifest last August. 2.0.0-p247 -> 2.2.0
<havenwood>
wallerdev: ya, Current stable, Previous stable, Old stable and Old(er) stable are right up front
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<shellfu>
hey all. I am having some trouble with a method im working on. details and code: http://pastebin.com/cuXuLkC0 but basically I have a string like '/%{::parent}/%{::child}' and im trying to replace the instances of %{::foo} with values from a hash im comparing
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<shellfu>
currently I am only succeeding in replacing the first instance. dropping the second
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<hesco>
And that appears to be success: /Exec[rbenv-install-2.2.0]/returns: executed successfully (hope I am not speaking too soon. my manifest is still running).
<havenwood>
hesco: good luck!
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<hesco>
no, it completed! should have compass and sass available now on both machines. Thanks for the help havenwood and wallerdev.
<Guest83706>
was wondering if anyone knows how to run numericality validation inside a loop?