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<pedahzur>
I'm trying to install RMagick 2.13.4 on Ruby 1.8.7 (Redhat 6.x). It's failing with this error: extconf.rb:153: undefined (?...) sequence: /^Version: ImageMagick\s+(?<Version>\d+\.\d+\.\d+\-\d+)\s+(?<Unknown>\S+)\s+(?<Arch>\S+)\s+(?<Date>\S+)/ Looks like an error in the Regex Anybody hit this? Anyone know a way around it?
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<Phagus>
Is there a Ruby ORM that is similar to Python's SQLAlchemy?
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<pipework>
sequel maybe? I'm not sure.
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<Majost>
Is there a way to to tell ruby's built-in csv parser to use a two character delimiter when reading a file? In my use case, I have a double space as a delimiter from the input, and when I use :col_sep => ' ' it treats single spaces as delimiters as well.
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<zenspider>
Majost: if you know your column count, use split instead and check the size of the resulting array.
<zenspider>
it is MUCH faster for most text files
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<ramfjord>
but what about quoting?
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<zenspider>
my general strategy is to use split. if the column count is not right, then I pass that one line through csv to deal with quoting
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<zenspider>
99.99% of the time, split is correct and wins by a far margin
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<pedahzur>
So the RMagic page here: https://rubygems.org/gems/rmagick says "required ruby version >= 1.8.5" but the extconf.rb file seems to use a regex syntax that is not supported by 1.8.7. So I'm stuck. Crud.
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<jhass>
pedahzur: nope, you're not
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<jhass>
just don't use 1.8 anymore
<Majost>
zenspider: The problem with that approach is then I get \n the values for the line endings
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<zenspider>
line endings are a problem?
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<pedahzur>
jhass: That's not viable when running on Redhat 6 if you wish to be supported.
<jhass>
supported by who? surely not upstream and large parts of the ruby community
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<pedahzur>
jhass: Supported by the vendor. The odd thing is the rmagick page says "required ruby version >= 1.8.5" but post-1.8 syntax is used, sadly.
<apeiros_>
pedahzur: it's not viable to use ruby 1.8 if you wish to be supported.
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<pipework>
Is that something people actually care about being supported? ruby 1.8
<jhass>
pedahzur: news flash: docs don't get updated
<Majost>
zenspider: Actually, in this case -- it looks like new lines are the character I want to past to split =)
<pedahzur>
apeiros_: It is if I want to be supported by my vendor. Using anything other than system packages means my vendor won't support me if I have a problem.
<apeiros_>
pedahzur: I suggest you go to your vendor for support then
<jhass>
pedahzur: just don't tell them/don't install system wide?!
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<jhass>
er, ignore me, what apeiros_ said
<zenspider>
Majost: either you're creating a problem that doesn't exist (because this technique works quite well) or you're doing a shit job of explaining your problem.
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<pipework>
pedahzur: Sounds like you need to put yourself into a time bubble that's stuck in whatever point in time redhat 6 is in.
<zenspider>
pipework: I don't really care. this isn't a hard problem
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<pipework>
zenspider: Yeah, I suppose.
<pipework>
Majost: I'd just use the obvious delimiter and split on that. No fuss.
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<pedahzur>
pipework: Yes, it runs on newer ruby. I'm installing 2.6. But I'm installing on RHEL 6, so am limited there.
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<pipework>
pedahzur: your shoes aren't ones I'd be interested in walking to the bathroom in, let alone a mile.
<Majost>
zenspider: Change first(10) to last(10)
<zenspider>
Majost: you're being obtuse on purpose. remove first entirely. it was just there to make the output tenable
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<Majost>
I know that
<pedahzur>
pipework: Yes, it would be nice to live in a world where I can just say "upgrade all the things" but stability and vendor support are acutally desired things in production. :)
<pipework>
Why do you want to build/install a software that's not packaged by your vendor on a system that they support anyways? Why can't you figure out one of the myriad ways to get a not old distro?
<jhass>
pedahzur: I just don't buy the "old == stable" fallacy ;)
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<pedahzur>
jhass: Old doesn't always mean stable, no, but in this case, it means well tested, well vettted code.
<pipework>
pedahzur: Which I find hilarious since you're wanting to use a project management software written in ruby using rails 3.2 on ruby 1.8.
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<jhass>
pedahzur: nope, upstream discontinued
<pipework>
Ruby as a community has dropped 1.8 and won't be giving it security updates, so there's that.
<pedahzur>
jhass: Redhat backports bug and security fixes.
<jhass>
pedahzur: the known bugs will not get fixed (by upstream)
<jhass>
you can only do so much
<mroach>
@jhass Agreed
<pipework>
pedahzur: So you trust redhat to introduce patches from upstream correctly?
<jhass>
major version upgrades do not just happen for the features
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<pedahzur>
pipework: No, redhat won't support Redmine, no, but if I break Ruby for something else used on that system, it's on me.
<jhass>
but to introduce necessary changes like getting rid of old cruft
<shevy>
let him use the rotten redhat ruby version if he wants to
<mroach>
Major revisions happen because programmers love free beer at launch parties.
<pipework>
pedahzur: I mean for ruby.
<jhass>
pedahzur: isolating a ruby install for a single application is really a solved problem, but meh
<pipework>
I don't really buy into your argument about it. But if you trust your vendor, I assume it's because they have a lot of your company's money, I suppose that's just a thing you'll have to live with.
<pedahzur>
pipework: I trust my vendor because I've seen them jump-on, and fix, problems I've uncovered.
<pipework>
pedahzur: Mkay
<shevy>
not everyone compiles from source
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<pipework>
The way I think of it is that you can come up with a reasonably secure platform for right now, but after right now, it's not as trustable. When now turns into years, I trust it less and less because the time since that previous now has allowed lots of potential growth and change to happen.
<pipework>
But whatever lets you sleep well at night and feel good.
<shevy>
that's a lot of nows
<shevy>
he trusts his vendor
<pipework>
shevy: Four isn't a very large number.
<pedahzur>
jhass: If you'd like to point me to such instructions, I'm all ears. I'm just trying to go off the Redmine install docs. I'm a user, not a dev, so don't have in-depth Ruby knowledge. I would also like to be able to install all this via RPM, so we keep track of files and can upgrade much easier.
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<Majost>
nm.. got csv to work
<shevy>
pipework no it is not is not is not is not
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<pipework>
shevy: !!!!yes
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<shevy>
so you upgrade ruby stuff
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<shevy>
who is the ruby guy who understands why you are actually using ruby?
<jhass>
pedahzur: a rvm user install is probably the easiest way to achieve it, http://rvm.io
<agent_white>
Evenin folks
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<shevy>
but rvm is no rpm!
<jhass>
pedahzur: just never combine root & rvm
<pipework>
I'd suggest ruby-install for installing a ruby.
<pipework>
rvm is a bit wieldy.
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<shevy>
I suggest the source
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<pipework>
I suggest compiling from source using ruby-install.
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<shevy>
but he would first have to learn ruby-install
<pipework>
'learn' as in read a readme?
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<pipework>
compiling ruby yourself would require you to learn too.
<haylon>
Where would a good starting point be, or does the README cover that?
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<shevy>
pipework you just have to do ./configure --prefix=/usr/ && make && make install !
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<green-big-frog>
good morning/night
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<pipework>
zenspider: Yeah, I pulled them from someone, but I'll gist them real quick.
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<pipework>
zenspider: Here's the gist. I think I was wrong about map being slower. I have another benchmark that is testing the speed of inject, merge, merge!, and each_with_object for hashes, which each_with_object is fastest. https://gist.github.com/Spaceghost/780565d7ffe03f9f77df
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<pipework>
zenspider: Also, TIL that #map(&:id) is faster than #map {|i| i.id}
<pipework>
But yours works on rubies older than 2.1
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<zenspider>
mmmm... sorta. worse stddev
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<pipework>
I'll run it with more iterations.
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<pipework>
I just ran it again with zenspider taking 4.2% and pipework taking 4.0%, so I think more iterations might suss it out a bit better, right?
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<zenspider>
pipework: yeah. at that point, it's a tossup. prolly a matter of telling ips to run longer or call it a tie with randomness getting in the way
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<zenspider>
should be able to call ips with an int
<zenspider>
default is 5 iirc
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<xfz>
do any of you know of a way to browse/find open source projects where there are tests written that need the corresponding code implemented?
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<pipework>
xfz: So you mean something well tested but not implemented?
<pipework>
zenspider: I think I would need to fork, Benchmark.ips(time=nil, warmup=nil)
<xfz>
I'm trying to find something to do, where the basic structure is defined in tests, but the functionality hasn't been implemented
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<pipework>
xfz: Find something interesting, delete the implementation, and then run the tests.
<xfz>
good idea
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<xfz>
but you know of no projects that might need support and are being developed in a way where I can join in like I described?
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<pipework>
xfz: Oh there's a lot. The best ones have special github issue tags for beginners.
<pipework>
What are you interested in?>
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<xfz>
pretty much everything that's "just above my skill level"
<pipework>
zenspider: Anyways, I like yours more. Works on more than just 2.1
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<xfz>
may I send you a link to what I did last in a query?
<pipework>
Is it a secret?
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<zenspider>
xfz: you want to make my failing tests pass??
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<zenspider>
wait... FOR FREE?
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<xfz>
zenspider: I'm looking for something to do in order to practice, yes
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<zenspider>
HEY GUYS! FREE LABOR!! FREE!!!
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<zenspider>
assert zenspider.house.painted?
<pipework>
xfz: I think you might have fun if you pair with someone.
<zenspider>
go
<xfz>
low quality free labor*
<zenspider>
_anyone_ can paint a house. :P
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<zenspider>
test is still failing :P
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<Areessell>
Not really a Ruby question but what would you guys use for streaming audio client side? Pure JS, web sockets, or something else?
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<pipework>
zenspider: Oh crap, running these benchmarks 100 times and partially through that, but it's a grab bag between #each_with_object, pipework, zenspider, and inject assign&return
<pipework>
I don't know enough to make sure that there's not something weird going on.
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<zenspider>
I do wish ips had an option to turn off GC for each block
<pipework>
That makes sense. Hmph.
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<apeiros_>
zenspider: manually turning it off not an option?
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<pipework>
Can you do that without affecting the benchmark?
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<apeiros_>
I was confused last time I used my benchmark thingy because the benchmark took ~5s, but it reported ~300ms. Then I remembered that I only printed CPU time :D
<apeiros_>
I want to extend it for 2.1 to include GC metrics
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<pipework>
apeiros_: You should read the benchmark-ips README.md, it might have some features you might want to lift into your stuff. Like the string eval stuff.
<apeiros_>
hm, also this is not the newest version… must sync it with the one on my work computer. added real time too there. I wish there was a reliable way to measure IO block time.
<apeiros_>
pipework: will do
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<zenspider>
adding GC metrics into benchmark-ips would be nice.
<agent_white>
%s/rails is dying/rails is hiding/g
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<avril14th>
so everyone is doing JS + PHP?!
<pipework>
avril14th: No, those are dead too.
<apeiros_>
I thought everybody is doing plain JS?
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<avril14th>
so what do they do
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<pipework>
apeiros_: No, they're doing emberjs lang
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<avril14th>
plain JS?!
<apeiros_>
wott?
* avril14th
jumps out the window
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<pipework>
avril14th: They're studying a lively new language called Latin.
<apeiros_>
emberjs *lang*?
<apeiros_>
yer kidding?
<agent_white>
JS is not dead. It's the zombie noone can kill.
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<pipework>
If you're still writing code, you clearly misunderstood the 2006 era of metaprogramming. I have code that's been generating code that's been generating code that's been generating code ad infinitem since 2006.
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<pipework>
Haha, no one would believe that thanks to Mongrel circa when it was relevant.
<avril14th>
pipework: you mean you're sitting in a chair with automatic code generating code generating cash all day long?
<agent_white>
Buffalo was only the beginning...
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<agent_white>
apeiros_: I didn't think it was new for him? Though he'd been working on it for quite a bit.
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<agent_white>
s/though/thought/
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<Areessell>
Why wouldn't it be? FFI and C extensions..
<pipework>
Areessell: Every language is great on windows, I mean, you can write in windows support in another language and expose it in the language you want to.
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<maasha>
I find it very difficult to google for help on ruby and the Mail gem - all hits are ActionMailer crap.
<maasha>
Problem: /usr/local/Cellar/ruby/2.1.4/lib/ruby/2.1.0/net/smtp.rb:541:in `initialize': Connection refused - connect(2) for "localhost" port 25 (Errno::ECONNREFUSED)
<sandelius>
maasha you don't have a local mail server running
<maasha>
and it used to work until some upgrade of either ruby or OSX - I didnt pay attention.
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<maasha>
sandelius: I cant remember if I ever had :o)
<workmad3>
maasha: it sounds like you did ;)
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<sandelius>
maasha just use googles smtp server
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<maasha>
OK, and on this other system the same code goes: /home/maasha/install/lib/ruby/2.1.0/openssl/ssl.rb:139:in `post_connection_check': hostname "localhost" does not match the server certificate (OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError)
<maasha>
and it also used to work there ...
<maasha>
(Debian stable)
<sandelius>
maasha well there you have a SSL error
<pipework>
Surprise, upgrading software can lead to breakages sometimes.
<maasha>
sandelius: googles smtp server requires your gmail credentials, not?
<sandelius>
pipework touché :)
<sandelius>
maasha yeah but you can create a "dummy" account
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<maasha>
It is just frustrating trying to google for this stuff, because the internet is swamped with these Rails idiots :o)
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<sandelius>
maasha that's why we're here :)
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<pipework>
maasha: 'these rails idiots' seems like a pretty unfriendly thing to say. :)
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<maasha>
pipework: thus the smiley
<maasha>
;o)
<workmad3>
pipework: I guess that means that us rails idiots should just stop helping him
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<Areessell>
Googling `ruby "mail gem"` only seems to bring up links pertaining to the mail gem, sup with that?
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<workmad3>
pipework: as we're obviously too idiotic to do so ;)
<platzhirsch>
whoop
<maasha>
You should be banned from posting questions on ActionMailer on my internet! :o)
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<pipework>
maasha: If I were you, I'd just suggest you set up a local dev mail server or you'd want to use proper stubs, if you're in development.
<workmad3>
maasha: set your DNS to 127.0.0.1 and we'll quickly vanish off 'your' internet ;)
<workmad3>
(no doubt any local DNS server you have is also borked after your upgrade :P )
<sandelius>
maasha whatever you do, don't bring up JS aswell :)
<pipework>
workmad3: But how will he send emails about it?
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<maasha>
OK, first things first. Let me get this smtp server installed
<ddv>
maasha: Who is the idiot here? .... You obviously.
<workmad3>
maasha: I recommend sendmail... their config file is super-easy to edit by hand, you should totally do that...
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<shevy>
I feel like writing no code today
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<ddv>
go home
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<dionysus69>
hey guys, assuming some of you know game ruby warrior. is it satisfactory to cover levels by writing code that fits that particular scenario only or should I extend previous code and add functionality, which is harder ? :S
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<certainty>
workmad3: that's good. i forgot what i wanted to ask x|
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* Hanmac
says "buuh" to apeiros_ ;P
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* Hanmac
is now haunting shevy from the grave ;P
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
if I store documentation in my ruby gem
<shevy>
should the dir be called ... doc/ or docs/ ?
<workmad3>
sheepman: it's rare that an API exists that gets sent data in the expectation that it does sod-all with it, after all :P
<sheepman>
workmad3: the JSON received will be a list of unique product ID's that it will then poll another third party API with
<workmad3>
sheepman: ok, so it's pretty much just a wrapper around the third-party API with a bit of JSON processing?
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<workmad3>
sheepman: and it'll send results back to the original request, not store them anywhere (e.g. database)?
<sheepman>
workmad3: kinda, the third-party doesn't want me to call there API lots of times and iterate over all products, instead they want to send me JSON of the product ID's i care about so i can iterate over them only.
<workmad3>
sheepman: I'm basically trying to get you to figure out whether you need storage/database/caching in your API, whether you need authentication, etc.
<workmad3>
sheepman: or if it's a really simple batch tunnel
<sheepman>
i'll need some kind of auth to verify its the correct sender, but no storage or caching
<sheepman>
i can generate a unique key and give it to them, which they can send back over SSL
<workmad3>
sheepman: ok, then sinatra would probably fit... rails-api could also work, but may be a bit overkill :)
<workmad3>
sheepman: ok... and where would you store the unique key in order to verify it's correct? :)
<sheepman>
yeah i don't see the need to run full blown rails really
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<workmad3>
sheepman: rails-api isn't full-blown rails... it's stripped down rails for API construction
<workmad3>
sheepman: hence 'rails-api'
<sheepman>
ah ok
<sheepman>
i may look there too
<workmad3>
sheepman: it keeps the controllers and models, but strips out most of the view rendering in favour of stuff like active-model-serializers
<sheepman>
i see
<sheepman>
key storage is a good question though, in my case i'm not sure worried about security, it may even be that i can just block via IP... not got that far yet.
<sheepman>
sure = that
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<sheepman>
as in take an IP whitelist approach rather then API key
<sheepman>
it will never be transporting sensitive data
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<toretore>
whitelisting sucks for api users
<workmad3>
sheepman: you could always push that concern out of your app and into IP white-listing, basic auth or digest-auth configured in nginx or apache then ;)
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<avril14th>
The good thing about it is that if you want to expand your service at some point you'll have a framework to work with. And if you already have rails on the side, you have 1 tech to care about. Now indeed for just a proxy, you can go for sinatra or an event machine even
<avril14th>
IP white list can even be put into HTTP servers right?
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<workmad3>
avril14th: 'allow from <ip>; deny from all;'
<avril14th>
right
<sheepman>
workmad3: true, good plan. basic auth would probably work.
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<sheepman>
although i am tempted to store keys securely somehow
<sheepman>
but i appreciate thats a whole other conversation :)
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<sheepman>
workmad3: in fact i could just store the hash of the key somewhere and never the key itself right? i don't need to ever recover it, but maybe need to generate a new one in the future for whatever reasons.
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<avril14th>
that works, but what is "somewhere"? db? file? memory? redis?
<sheepman>
avril14th: file then into memory most likely, although i spose it doesn't really matter?
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<avril14th>
I don't know, depends on your use. If you have thousands of keys or a dozen and if you need to persist them on drive
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<avril14th>
or from what you say, you may not even need a per use key
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<avril14th>
which is even simpler
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<sheepman>
yeah sure, thanks for your help and you workmad3. Much appreciate :)
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<avril14th>
no pb
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<ponga>
another oriental essence that westerners find difficulty to grasp
<Areessell>
Silly westerners
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<shevy>
ponga the asian characters strike me as much more complex than the latin characters
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<shevy>
even the koreans have a letter based alphabet right?
<Areessell>
Really? A box with a line in it?
<zipper>
I haev this issue where I have added the line Gemfile.lock to my .gitignore yet when it comes to staging I run git status I can see the file Gemfile.lock
<ponga>
複雑！
<ponga>
shevy yes we do
<Areessell>
zipper: You already added it to the repo
<ponga>
we abandoned chinese chrs decades ago
<Areessell>
Remove the file from the git repo
<shevy>
Areessell yeah - you can actually decipher those korean blocks if you know their meaning
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<shevy>
I mean like, it seemed much easier than those weird ass chinese characters
<zipper>
Areessell: Shouldn't gitigore work around that?
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<zipper>
Because I don't want to remove it that's for sure
<shevy>
and you can even draw them subtly-differently, then their meaning and phonetics slightly change, it's total madness
<Areessell>
You want to remove it from the /repo/ not the file itself.
<zipper>
Though it doesn't help after I run bundle does it?
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<ponga>
shevy: korean alphabet was intentionally created by researcher(king himself) and was kept in control throughout history
<ponga>
no wonder its very consistant
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<junix659>
i just installed something using gem as a user, and deleted it from my homedir, now after I installed the same program as root, when I execute this as a user it says it can't find the program (tmuxinator) what did I do wrong? I can't find the path n my profile
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<shevy>
ponga what always strikes me when I see those asian characters, it is that they are like ideal for drawings; like you know, to draw a picture? or to draw on a wall, like the ancient egypts did too... but it does not seem to be a very efficient storage medium
<aswen>
Hi, what's the best way to build an array of filenames that should be found in a certain dir?
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<zipper>
Areessell: lol I wanted to remove my Gemfile.lock then I saw a stackoverflow thread that said removing the Gemfile.lock is bad.
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<Areessell>
So why did you ask how to remove it?
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<zipper>
Areessell: I hadn't come across that info then.
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<Areessell>
I can see how that could cause confusion =p
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<junix659>
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<Hanmac>
junix659: have you try to open a new terminal?
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<atmosx>
Hello guys
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<junix659>
hanmac, yes
<junix659>
nm
<junix659>
fixed
<junix659>
thanks!
<Hanmac>
junix659: i think the problem is how you deleted the gem as the user
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<platzhirsch>
Had a horrible discussion about Java thread interruption.. my year old believes were claimed to be wrong, because philosophies, APIs, opinions change. Terrible.. luckily not an issue in Ruby :P
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: sounds intriguing :)
<platzhirsch>
I know right
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: what were your previous beliefs?
<workmad3>
platzhirsch: and did someone provide an example of how they were wrong?
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: or was it just 'lawl, u r rong rong rong, lawl'
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<platzhirsch>
And you know what beat everything? I was told my SO answer with 29(!) upvotes is just plainly wrong
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<platzhirsch>
which clearly cannot be the case, otherwise I wouldn't have gained 29 upvotes, right? (being ironic)
<workmad3>
platzhirsch: only 29? :P
<platzhirsch>
:*(
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: I've had people criticize one of my SO answers with almost 200 upvotes ;)
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<platzhirsch>
no, he was really passionate about it, throwing paragraphs of explanation at me. No, I mean it was quite reasonable. In Java using Thread#interrupt() is problematic, because it sets an interruption flag on the Thread instance and some horrible 3rd party libraries tend to swallow that interrupt flag silently, removing your control over the termination process
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: and he claimed that such a thing doesn't happen anymore, or that it couldn't happen?
<platzhirsch>
that it could happen
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: could? or couldn't?
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<workmad3>
(now confused :) )
<platzhirsch>
haha
<platzhirsch>
He claimed that some 3rd party swallow the interruption flag silenty
<platzhirsch>
yeah, he provided all that, I cannot criticize him.. or her
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: ah :)
<workmad3>
platzhirsch: so it was a case that you were just plain wrong ;)
<platzhirsch>
my dismay is simply about being disillusioned
<platzhirsch>
although being disillusioned is something positive and should be embraced
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<workmad3>
platzhirsch: you learn more by being wrong than by being right? :)
<platzhirsch>
yes, you progress
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<workmad3>
heh :) I personally think you can learn just as much either way, but I also conceed that humans are often very bad at asking 'why?' when they're 'right'... it's much easier to go 'I was wrong... ok, why was I wrong?' than it is to go 'ok, I was right. Why was I right?'
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<workmad3>
*concede
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<dstarh>
Anyone use Shrimp for pdf rendering? We've been using it for a bit and it works well except on occasion we get a A Shrimp::RenderingError occurred in pdf#create with no explanation or stack
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<Areessell>
No stack trace?
<Areessell>
Have you tried rescuing RenderingError and using Exception#backtrace
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<dstarh>
Areessell i have not, we only see it in production thus far, but good idea
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<dstarh>
and nope no stack trace other than our internal stuff, nothing from it itself
<workmad3>
shevy: I'm saying humans are bad at asking 'why' when they are right without knowing the reasons, compared to when they're wrong without knowing the reasons
<shevy>
platzhirsch on stackoverflow I often upvote people I like regardless of their answer!
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<platzhirsch>
shevy: yo, I like your style
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<shevy>
platzhirsch and on youtube I downvote every video just so that google won't know if there are any videos I like
<shevy>
(actually I am kidding there but I am tempted to would-do so)
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<platzhirsch>
that's trying to avoid something inevitable
<jhass>
waxjar: if I got that right that would depend on uniform ordering though, right?
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<jhass>
I understood 1, 2, 3 as keys
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<cesarstafe>
hi people, I am wondering if somebody knows a gem that is capable to search linkedin profiles and watch updates without authentication as user with omniauth ... is it possible?
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<ericwood>
not without scraping and violating their TOS
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<ericwood>
and I guarantee there's no gem for that
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<cesarstafe>
ericwood: ufffff... what a problem with tht
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<shevy>
you can obtain all keys or values from a hash by using .keys and .values respectively aswen; and you can also match any filter criterium through .select
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<shevy>
so in your .rb file, test the output: require 'pp'; pp scenes.keys
<claw>
hey there ... i want a client to send a hash to a server. i guess i am going to use tcp socket for that right? next thing to load the hash which is propably comes as a string to the server i use eval to make it hash again. but how would i prevent injection when using eval ? or am i totaly wrong with what i am planing ?
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<aswen>
shevy: I don't understand. can you explain a bit more "dummy-mode"?
<aswen>
(thanx btw!)
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<workmad3>
claw: transmit data as JSON
<workmad3>
claw: and don't use eval
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<Xeago>
claw: you will also want authenticity and tamper prevention
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<Xeago>
why not just use a TLS, and likely HTTP on top of that?
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<workmad3>
Xeago: at which point, why not just run a rack server? :)
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<claw>
how would i transfer data to a rack server? post is limited on length isnt it ?
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<workmad3>
claw: http request body can be limited by a server, said servers can generally be configured as to what the maximum size they'll accept is
<workmad3>
claw: so the question is - how much data are you planning on sending in a single request?
<workmad3>
claw: or are you just imagining limits to arbitrarily dismiss options?
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<claw>
i dont know will 1000 chars be a problem ?
<workmad3>
no
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<claw>
okay then thats fine
<workmad3>
that's a kb
<workmad3>
*maybe* 4kb if they're all 4-byte utf-8 chars...
<claw>
i heard there is a limit but i never looked that up
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<waxjar>
yeah true jhass, didn't think of that
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<Guest84271>
hi people
<jhass>
hi guest
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<Guest84271>
I am using xchat for the first time... how can I do to change my nickname? /nick <nickname>
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<Grantlyk>
Guest84271: I think you answered your own question?:S
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<Guest84271>
mmm
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<Guest84271>
not working
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<jhass>
which one do you want? might be taken already
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<Guest84271>
a question here if somebody knows about omniauth-linkedin strategy.. is it possible to do login using it in a standalone ruby script under some folder or try to test it in a rails console?
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<jhass>
make sure to inform other channels about provided solutions when you crosspost
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<Guest84271>
ok
<zacts>
jhass: I like your last name. Have you heard of the pianist Monique Haas? (sorry your nick reminded me of her music)
<zacts>
anyway, check it out sometime, and hi #ruby
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<jhass>
zacts: nope, and my actual last name is haß, internet protocols just don't like it ;)
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<zacts>
ah, ok. :-)
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<jhass>
so in german hass is phonetically equivalent and everything accepts that as an alternate way to write it basically ;)
<eam>
zacts: I've heard of the avocado
<zacts>
nice eam
<eam>
huge fan
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<louism2wash>
Hey guys, is there any way to call another class's instance method on another object? Sort of like instance_exec except I can just pass it a method name instead of a block?
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<shevy>
louism2wash you can use .send on the object - you must however have a handle on that object
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<louism2wash>
shevy: But Foo needs that instance method as well.
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<louism2wash>
shevy: It's not really a practical question. More hypothetical. Trying to understand metaprogramming in ruby more.
<shevy>
then define both a class method and an instance method
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<_br_>
I'm using OpenSSL::HMAC.digest('sha1', "1234", "300x300/1f233eb9-98f2-499c-8955-54b0d4a75fc1.jpg" ) which gives me "\xBD\xEC\xCF\x83~q%t&\xB9\n2>\x1Ct\xC1ma\xA0\x10". Is this hexadecimal? I'm wondering, because I'm trying to replicate this exact output on the linux commandline and don't get to this result. e.g. ...to_s.unpack("H*") returns bdeccf837e71257426b90a323e1c74c16d61a010 correct hexdigest form, which I can also get via e.g. ec
<_br_>
ho -n "300x300/1f233eb9-98f2-499c-8955-54b0d4a75fc1.jpg" | openssl dgst -sha1 -hmac "1234". But how can I get ruby's output "\xBD\xEC\xCF\x83~q%t&\xB9\n2>\x1Ct\xC1ma\xA0\x10" in linux commandline? I tried already various combinations with od or xxd...
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<wallerdev>
its just a binary string
<wallerdev>
but since theres no alphanumeric characters to represent some of those things it uses hex escape codes instead
<apeiros_>
_br_: I don't think any sane tool will emit raw binary to the shell
<wallerdev>
getting ruby's version from commandline seems kinda odd, no real reason to do that
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<apeiros_>
simply because too much would be not printable
<wallerdev>
you can just generate hex and use pack('H*') to get it into the same ruby value
<_br_>
reason I ask is that someone here used code like Base64.encode64("#{OpenSSL::HMAC.digest('sha1', secret, string)}\n").gsub(/[+\/=]/, "").slice(0..11) and I'd like to replicate that on shell only
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<_br_>
weird right?
<_br_>
d(;.;)p
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<wallerdev>
yeah no idea what that code is trying to do lol
<shevy>
you guys are way too often wondering why
<shevy>
I am happily ignoring having to try and understand why when people ask stuff
<_br_>
hehe I wish I could do that ... hm
<shevy>
I can't go down the route of people's madness
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<_br_>
yeah true that
<shevy>
I need beer
<wallerdev>
part of being a programmer :p
<_br_>
*deep sign* me too
<wallerdev>
if you dont ask why you end up implementing the wrong thing :)
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<_br_>
anyway, thanks for listening guys.. appreciate it
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<shevy>
wallerdev why
<shevy>
:>
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<wallerdev>
the better question is why does taylor swift take all her songs off of spotify
<shevy>
what is a taylor swift
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<wallerdev>
a singer
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<shevy>
you are well informed about music wallerdev
<wallerdev>
thanks
<pipework>
shevy: [citation needed]
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<miah>
<3 me some arch. use ubuntu at work. endless issues. wish we ran arch. but i think the next thing i'll run in production will be nix
<atmosx>
miah: can I be honest?
<miah>
well; i hope people are honest in general
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<atmosx>
In my experience people that whine over Linux distributions have a poor understanding of GNU/Linux and the specific of the distro in question. Especially when talking about major ones.
<pipework>
I rather dislike rolling release ubanto.
<pipework>
Which means, staying on the alpha.
<pipework>
So tehre's that.
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<miah>
atmosx: nice way to generalize
<atmosx>
miah: Well I was talking about you, but there are others.
<miah>
oh, so you are just saying that i have a poor understanding of gnu/linux
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<atmosx>
miah: yeah, probably.
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<atmosx>
miah: do you have any specific issues or you just don't like the package manager?
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<miah>
lol
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<apeiros_>
atmosx: it's probably true that many people whining about stuff do so due to ignorance. but i doubt miah falls into that category ;-)
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<apeiros_>
at least for the topic at hand
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<godd2>
ericwood yea I learned --ignore-dependencies when rubygems' dependency servers were offline once
<ericwood>
hehe
<godd2>
NOW you can change the Gemfile locally
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<godd2>
then cd to it and bundle install
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<ericwood>
thanks for the tip
<ericwood>
completely puzzled why rubygems is confused, the dependency tree is very very clear in this case
<pipework>
ericwood: Do you just want to work on the gem or something?
<ericwood>
pipework: I just want to install it...
<ericwood>
like I keep saying that
<ericwood>
over and over
<ericwood>
I'm just trying to install it so I can use it
<ericwood>
sorry I'm just frustrated with rubygems
<godd2>
yea the repo doesn't have a gemspec so who knows how the gem was built
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<ericwood>
would it be reasonable to open an issue asking for a gemspec?
<godd2>
that wouldn't be unreasonable
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<godd2>
though in true open source fashion, you could make one and do a pull request :)
<pipework>
ericwood: You could also pull request a gemspec.
<ericwood>
this is true
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<pipework>
It'd only take a couple minutes to do, and you could pull data from the gem itself and the rubygems page for what isn't already in the repository.
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<pipework>
And if you did, you could use your fork until/if he merges it in.
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<pipework>
bundle exec rake install, bruh
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<ericwood>
okay, I think I got it working
<ericwood>
we'll see if it truly works once I try running it tonight
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<ericwood>
okay, question:
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<ericwood>
I want to have a thread that keeps executing something at a regular interval, but I want to be able to change that interval on the fly from the parent
<ericwood>
would opening a socket between the two be an ideal way to communicate that timing information?
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<ericwood>
huh, actually Queue looks like what I want
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<godd2>
though if you want t be more precise, youll want to see how much time has passed and subtract so that things line up
<ericwood>
I'm woefully ignorant about ruby threading
<apeiros_>
means you will have to wait for next wakeup before it takes effect, though
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<ericwood>
yeah, next step is finding a way to preempt the event loop thing
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<godd2>
yes, I should warn that that is probably not the *best* way to do what you're trying to do, but it is *a* way
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<digdeep>
Hi, recently I remove ruby-2.1.0 and install ruby-2.1.5. I print out the $LOAD_PATH, and found something like ~/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.5/lib/ruby/2.1.0. My first reaction it should be ~/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.5/lib/ruby/2.1.5?
<crome>
digdeep: it means that the gem interface of ruby 2.1.5 is 2.1.0
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<crome>
you can use all gems that are compatible with 2.1.0+