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<baaba>
Hello
<baaba>
Is it a good idea to get a Nanonote now or is there anything better for the price ?
<baaba>
Is there anyone here ? :/
<mth>
hi
<baaba>
hi
<mth>
there is not a lot of activity around the nanonote anymore, I think
<mth>
but I don't know if any alternatives exist
<baaba>
oh
<mth>
it also depends on what you intend to use it for
<baaba>
well a note taking device mainly or maybe a media player
<baaba>
is et still being sold ?
<baaba>
I just emailed ida systems
<mth>
I don't know, maybe wolfspraul or xiangfu knows
<baaba>
oh okay thanks, do you own a Nanonote ?
<mth>
there is the Pandora and its successor Fyra, but those are a lot more expensive than the NanoNote
<baaba>
yeah more than 300 euros
<mth>
no, I got here because I had a Dingoo A320, which uses similar hardware, but doesn't have a keyboard
<baaba>
the nanonote is around 50 on ida systems
<baaba>
oh okay
<baaba>
is there any similar device suitable for note taking. media playing and occasionnaly programming ?
<baaba>
preferably cheap ?
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<paul_boddie>
baaba: The keyboard isn't that great on the NanoNote, but it does seem to be supported in recent Linux kernel releases.
<paul_boddie>
Thanks to all the people tirelessly working on upstreaming MIPS/Ingenic stuff. :-)
<baaba>
oh ok thanks
<baaba>
so you own a nanonote paul_boddie
<paul_boddie>
Yes. Still experiment with stuff on it, although it's been a few months.
<paul_boddie>
Was using it to (very slowly and with some frustration) learn about the MIPS architecture.
<mth>
paul_boddie: speaking of kernels, we're trying to close the gaps between 4770 and 4740 to prepare for upstreaming, but you wrote earlier than some things got broken along the way
<baaba>
paul_boddie, where did you get it from ?
<mth>
(we = pcercuei and me, who maintain the gcw0 kernel)
<paul_boddie>
Well, 4.7.2 built and ran on the NanoNote, at least well enough to boot my Debian installation.
<paul_boddie>
Thanks to you (mth) and pcercuei for all the hard work!
<paul_boddie>
baaba: I got mine from Pulster back in 2012, but he sold out not too long afterwards. Only Ida Systems has them now.
<paul_boddie>
mth: Is the 4775 supportable from the 4770 code? I'm still hoping for EOMA68-jz4775 one day.
<baaba>
oh ok thanks for the info
<mth>
probably, but I don't have a 4775 device to test on
<baaba>
are they still manufactured ? I doubt it but...
<mth>
it's a lot like the 4770 but without the gpu, right?
<paul_boddie>
baaba: No, I think only 2000 were made, according to estimations made by outsiders.
<paul_boddie>
mth: Yes, no GPU, just the vector stuff or something like that.
<mth>
ideally you'd only have to create a new devicetree file for it
<baaba>
oh wow so they're quite rare
<paul_boddie>
I should look at the 4740 device tree description just to get into that a bit more.
<paul_boddie>
baaba: Yes, they'll be funding our pensions in a few years. ;-)
<mth>
the 4740 doesn't use DT as much as it should yet; we have several of the shared drivers migrated in the 4770 tree
<mth>
it would be worthwhile to fix that and try whether it still runs on 4740
<mth>
I think pcercuei did some tests, but I don't remember how far he got
<baaba>
Is there any plan to make an other nanonote with better specs ? paul_boddie ?
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<paul_boddie>
I got confused with the gcwnow stuff, but to my surprise the official kernel worked, no patches needed.
<paul_boddie>
baaba: No. There's no-one with the knowledge of the original and no continuity with that project.
<paul_boddie>
There was a plan a while ago but it got shelved. I guess demand for the Ben wasn't enough.
<baaba>
yeah it must be that
<paul_boddie>
Maybe people will be motivated enough to do a similar EOMA68 device. I don't know, really.
<baaba>
oh yes that would be interesting
<paul_boddie>
I think the keyboard would be the critical thing. I don't know how good the N900 or Pyra keyboards are, but a study of how they're done would be useful.
<paul_boddie>
mth: Apart from GCW-Zero is there any other "action" in the MIPS scene in terms of devices getting out there? Apart from routers, I guess.
<mth>
there is the ci20 and ci40
<mth>
and I heard someone talk about an x1000 dev kit
<baaba>
What is the nanonote battery life ?
<paul_boddie>
The CI20 doesn't exactly seem well supported any more. I guess the CI40 is still being delivered to backers.
<paul_boddie>
I've never really tested the battery life with the NanoNote.
<baaba>
oh okay
<paul_boddie>
Some people were using Yeeloong and other such stuff, but reading things recently, they seem to be abandoning it.
<paul_boddie>
I don't have a good overview of the MIPS scene from Lemote and similar vendors.