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<wolfspraul> pcercuei: what are your thoughts on wayland?
<wolfspraul> (thanks for the heads up here btw, I think wayland is an exciting project...)
<wolfspraul> I just don't know that well yet where it will go and what it will mean
<wolfspraul> how about vnc/remote?
<wolfspraul> how about sdl/framebuffer stuff or devices with small/very small screens...
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<pcercuei> wolfspraul: I don't have thoughts
<pcercuei> I'm nowhere near an Xorg expert
<pcercuei> but what I know for sure is that having more projects is always better than just one
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<wolfspraul> he :-)
<wolfspraul> that's a start, yes
<wolfspraul> do you plan to try it out?
<wolfspraul> I mean wayland
<pcercuei> maybe
<pcercuei> if it doesn't fuck up my system
<pcercuei> I'm running Debian wheezy, which is going to be marked as "stable" soon
<pabs3> FSVO "soon"
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<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Save changes made on the link of an OPK on the user directory. (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a04b9e3
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Memorize the selector's directory as the default one for later use (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/c94968f
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Assign an icon for a given link only if it hasn't been done before (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/dec1a89
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Hide parameters not suitable for OPKs on the context menu (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4c4f452
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Default the 'browser' option to 'true'. (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/64eb86f
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Drop the 'remove link' option on the context menu of OPKs (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/df981eb
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<e2580> Anyone interested in a sneak peek at a hardware based security device we are about ready to release?
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<kyak> xiangfu: hi! the build looks good. Wonder why qball failed to build (builds fine here).. Do you have a build log or could do make package/qball/{clean,compile} V=s (but you have to remove qball_src.zip from dl/)
<kyak> some people re-release a tarball without notifying, others don't even care about md5sum and don't even bother to change a tarball name upon release :)
<kyak> hm.. looks like openwrt doesn't test checksums if it doesn't have to download the source (already in dl/)
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<kyak> which makes it really difficult to update packages whose source name doesn't change
<kyak> i just made some changes locally in dl/qball_src.zip - and openwrt didn't even notice
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<kyak> jow_laptop: do you have an idea?
<jow_laptop> yeah, see if debian has an own tarball of it (the blah.orig.tar.gz ones) and use that
<kyak> nope, it's not packaged for debian
<jow_laptop> then you have to do it yourself
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<kyak> do what?
<jow_laptop> or try to find a repo somewhere which you can reference
<jow_laptop> making sane, versioned tarballs
<kyak> ok.. is it possible to download to a versioned tarball?
<jow_laptop> ???
<kyak> like, grab qball_src.zip, but save it as qball_src_VER.zip
<kyak> in dl
<jow_laptop> probably not
<kyak> then when version changes, download will not find it try to redownload
<kyak> ok. Another option - can we check md5sum even if package is in dl/ ?
<jow_laptop> that would extremely slow down the build process
<jow_laptop> right now the md5sum calculation happens directly during download
<kyak> you know what.. forget about it. Unversioned tarballs really piss me off - so it's the author's fault
<jow_laptop> yes
<jow_laptop> does he have a repo?
<kyak> no, he has a web page and updates the source from time to time
<jow_laptop> link?
<kyak> sec
<jow_laptop> bbl
<kyak> well, i even approached the author once asking him to version his source
<kyak> he said: "Unfortunately I've got some places that link to my website (e.g., http://qt-apps.org/ you can advertise Qt applications, with links directly to the archives), so it would be difficult to keep these all updated. And I don't have web space to store two copies I'm afraid. I'm not sure how OpenWrt packaging works - can you simply rename the files, or could it be hosted elsewhere?"
<kyak> that was almost two years ago.. probably i should approach him again and tell about wonders of github
<larsc> we can put a versioned mirror up on downloads.openwrt.org I think we do that for some other packages as well
<kyak> sounds like a good idea
<kyak> hosting versioned tarball for the author :)
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<xiangfu> kyak, after re-download the dl/qball_src.zip, the qball compile just fine. I start build the new image again (with qball=y)
<jow_laptop> kyak: "There is also a Git repository on the Sourceforge page."+
<jow_laptop> so just reference that in the openwrt makefile and it will create beautifully versioned tarballs
<jow_laptop> which you can then mirror
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<kyak> xiangfu: great, thanks :) hope this one is going to be final!
<kyak> jow_laptop: let me check...
<xiangfu> kyak, yes.
<jow_laptop> git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/q-ball/code q-ball-code
<kyak> jow_laptop: thanks for your eyes :) This phrase hadn't always been there (for SF repo)
<kyak> the SF is down for me at the moment. .some error 500
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* xiangfu running 'reflash_ben.sh -d openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121023-1432/'
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<kyak> xiangfu: i see there are no patches in http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121023-1432/patches/ for qt4. Did it build fine as it is?
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<xiangfu> kyak, just checked. I forget update the patches. the qt4 patch should be http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121023-1432/patches/feeds.xorg.patch
<kyak> ok
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix a bug where having multiple MIME types would crash GMenu2X (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b8112d1
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: cgmienr: fix depends (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a511011
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: For non-OPK programs, chdir() to the app's directory as well (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/0b922e9
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: ascii-paint: fix depends (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/2e44a43
<pcercuei> commit fight!
<kyak> --)
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: guile2: fix depends (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/45cd9dd
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: fpgatools: rename mini-jtag to fpgatools, include fp2bit/bit2fp (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a295fd4
<pcercuei> ok, you win :(
<wpwrak> pcercuei: a foolish general thinks relentless heroic sacrifices will turn the tide even if the battle seems lost. a wise general falls back upon seeing the battle is lost and saves his troops for the counterattack.
<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: qball: use git repo (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/01e3c1f
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<mth> wpwrak: saves them for the next (git) push?
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: dopewars: fix depends (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b30b596
<kyak> ok, xiangfu is on update spree :)
<kyak> i think this calls for a final-final image :)
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<xiangfu> kyak, yes. I will update the pacakge/index. for those packages.
<xiangfu> kyak, now I am waiting the 'guile2' compile the result. It is really taking too much time on the guile2-host. :-)
<wpwrak> mth: yeah. always keep a few unpushed commits as reserve units :)
<xiangfu> :)
<xiangfu> wpwrak, that is not good for your ally. :-D
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<kyak> xiangfu: hm.. so strange. fw_printenv returns bootargs=mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait consoleblank=30 quiet g_ether.host_addr=72:8d:1f:c4:e8:ca, but cat /proc/cmdline is "mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait"
<xiangfu> kyak, let me check the u-boot. ENV ADDRESS. there is a lot of update in U-Boot.
<kyak> i remember that previous uboot didn't have such a problem.. i used this method to modify cmdline
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files: update fw_env.config with new bootloader configure (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/91b5bd4
<xiangfu> kyak, fixed in this commit.
<xiangfu> copy the new fw_env.config to /etc/
<xiangfu> since this file is under files/. I have to re-generate the image.
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<xiangfu> kyak, have to sleep. good night. I will check the result tomorrow. thanks for feedback. the silent-boot working now. :)
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<kyak> yep, works well now
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