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<wolfspraul> pcercuei: what are your thoughts on wayland?
<wolfspraul> (thanks for the heads up here btw, I think wayland is an exciting project...)
<wolfspraul> I just don't know that well yet where it will go and what it will mean
<wolfspraul> how about vnc/remote?
<wolfspraul> how about sdl/framebuffer stuff or devices with small/very small screens...
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<pcercuei> wolfspraul: I don't have thoughts
<pcercuei> I'm nowhere near an Xorg expert
<pcercuei> but what I know for sure is that having more projects is always better than just one
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<wolfspraul> he :-)
<wolfspraul> that's a start, yes
<wolfspraul> do you plan to try it out?
<wolfspraul> I mean wayland
<pcercuei> maybe
<pcercuei> if it doesn't fuck up my system
<pcercuei> I'm running Debian wheezy, which is going to be marked as "stable" soon
<pabs3> FSVO "soon"
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<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Save changes made on the link of an OPK on the user directory. (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Memorize the selector's directory as the default one for later use (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Assign an icon for a given link only if it hasn't been done before (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Hide parameters not suitable for OPKs on the context menu (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Default the 'browser' option to 'true'. (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Drop the 'remove link' option on the context menu of OPKs (packages)
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<e2580> Anyone interested in a sneak peek at a hardware based security device we are about ready to release?
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<kyak> xiangfu: hi! the build looks good. Wonder why qball failed to build (builds fine here).. Do you have a build log or could do make package/qball/{clean,compile} V=s (but you have to remove from dl/)
<kyak> some people re-release a tarball without notifying, others don't even care about md5sum and don't even bother to change a tarball name upon release :)
<kyak> hm.. looks like openwrt doesn't test checksums if it doesn't have to download the source (already in dl/)
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<kyak> which makes it really difficult to update packages whose source name doesn't change
<kyak> i just made some changes locally in dl/ - and openwrt didn't even notice
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<kyak> jow_laptop: do you have an idea?
<jow_laptop> yeah, see if debian has an own tarball of it (the blah.orig.tar.gz ones) and use that
<kyak> nope, it's not packaged for debian
<jow_laptop> then you have to do it yourself
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<kyak> do what?
<jow_laptop> or try to find a repo somewhere which you can reference
<jow_laptop> making sane, versioned tarballs
<kyak> ok.. is it possible to download to a versioned tarball?
<jow_laptop> ???
<kyak> like, grab, but save it as
<kyak> in dl
<jow_laptop> probably not
<kyak> then when version changes, download will not find it try to redownload
<kyak> ok. Another option - can we check md5sum even if package is in dl/ ?
<jow_laptop> that would extremely slow down the build process
<jow_laptop> right now the md5sum calculation happens directly during download
<kyak> you know what.. forget about it. Unversioned tarballs really piss me off - so it's the author's fault
<jow_laptop> yes
<jow_laptop> does he have a repo?
<kyak> no, he has a web page and updates the source from time to time
<jow_laptop> link?
<kyak> sec
<jow_laptop> bbl
<kyak> well, i even approached the author once asking him to version his source
<kyak> he said: "Unfortunately I've got some places that link to my website (e.g., you can advertise Qt applications, with links directly to the archives), so it would be difficult to keep these all updated. And I don't have web space to store two copies I'm afraid. I'm not sure how OpenWrt packaging works - can you simply rename the files, or could it be hosted elsewhere?"
<kyak> that was almost two years ago.. probably i should approach him again and tell about wonders of github
<larsc> we can put a versioned mirror up on I think we do that for some other packages as well
<kyak> sounds like a good idea
<kyak> hosting versioned tarball for the author :)
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<xiangfu> kyak, after re-download the dl/, the qball compile just fine. I start build the new image again (with qball=y)
<jow_laptop> kyak: "There is also a Git repository on the Sourceforge page."+
<jow_laptop> so just reference that in the openwrt makefile and it will create beautifully versioned tarballs
<jow_laptop> which you can then mirror
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<kyak> xiangfu: great, thanks :) hope this one is going to be final!
<kyak> jow_laptop: let me check...
<xiangfu> kyak, yes.
<jow_laptop> git clone git:// q-ball-code
<kyak> jow_laptop: thanks for your eyes :) This phrase hadn't always been there (for SF repo)
<kyak> the SF is down for me at the moment. .some error 500
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* xiangfu running ' -d openwrt-xburst.full_system-20121023-1432/'
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<kyak> xiangfu: i see there are no patches in for qt4. Did it build fine as it is?
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<xiangfu> kyak, just checked. I forget update the patches. the qt4 patch should be
<kyak> ok
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix a bug where having multiple MIME types would crash GMenu2X (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: cgmienr: fix depends (master)
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: For non-OPK programs, chdir() to the app's directory as well (packages)
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: ascii-paint: fix depends (master)
<pcercuei> commit fight!
<kyak> --)
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: guile2: fix depends (master)
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: fpgatools: rename mini-jtag to fpgatools, include fp2bit/bit2fp (master)
<pcercuei> ok, you win :(
<wpwrak> pcercuei: a foolish general thinks relentless heroic sacrifices will turn the tide even if the battle seems lost. a wise general falls back upon seeing the battle is lost and saves his troops for the counterattack.
<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: qball: use git repo (master)
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<mth> wpwrak: saves them for the next (git) push?
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: dopewars: fix depends (master)
<kyak> ok, xiangfu is on update spree :)
<kyak> i think this calls for a final-final image :)
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<xiangfu> kyak, yes. I will update the pacakge/index. for those packages.
<xiangfu> kyak, now I am waiting the 'guile2' compile the result. It is really taking too much time on the guile2-host. :-)
<wpwrak> mth: yeah. always keep a few unpushed commits as reserve units :)
<xiangfu> :)
<xiangfu> wpwrak, that is not good for your ally. :-D
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<kyak> xiangfu: hm.. so strange. fw_printenv returns bootargs=mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait consoleblank=30 quiet g_ether.host_addr=72:8d:1f:c4:e8:ca, but cat /proc/cmdline is "mem=32M console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600n8 ubi.mtd=2 rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs rw rootwait"
<xiangfu> kyak, let me check the u-boot. ENV ADDRESS. there is a lot of update in U-Boot.
<kyak> i remember that previous uboot didn't have such a problem.. i used this method to modify cmdline
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: nanonote-files: update fw_env.config with new bootloader configure (master)
<xiangfu> kyak, fixed in this commit.
<xiangfu> copy the new fw_env.config to /etc/
<xiangfu> since this file is under files/. I have to re-generate the image.
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<xiangfu> kyak, have to sleep. good night. I will check the result tomorrow. thanks for feedback. the silent-boot working now. :)
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<kyak> yep, works well now
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