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<kristianpaul>
time out? reverse dns issues? not proer hello?
<kristianpaul>
n8 !
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you wanna reproduce it: `mv ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub $elsewhere`
<DocScrutinizer05>
the check ssh working fine
<DocScrutinizer05>
sftp://user@host working fine in konqueror and dolphin
<DocScrutinizer05>
but only once ;-P
<DocScrutinizer05>
then* check...*
<DocScrutinizer05>
here the sftp:// in filemanager magically creates a new id_dsa.pub, and even worse: a crippled one
<DocScrutinizer05>
and while everything works fine wothout any id_dsa.pub, everything starts blowing chunks with that crippled trunkated crap (only 1023 bytes instead of original 1115)
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<kristianpaul>
DocScrutinizer05: good reason to stick on a terminal emulator :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
kristianpaul: meh
<kristianpaul>
but i admit i like file managers (at least the one from xfce) to visualize more quickly photos and documents
<DocScrutinizer05>
kristianpaul: I just wonder what friggin process thinks it needs to restore that file
<kristianpaul>
the fu require to make feh to dad is not much confortable to remenber...
<DocScrutinizer05>
and even does that in such a borked manner
<kristianpaul>
DocScrutinizer05: yes thats a nice bug :)
<whitequark>
for some reason, every single one person I met who knows what mc is, hates me for using mc.
<whitequark>
not sure why
<DocScrutinizer05>
I love you for using mc :-D
<DocScrutinizer05>
actually it's the fallback of my choice, when sftp:// URL in filemanager doesn't work
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* DocScrutinizer05
blames KDE kio foo for doing that id_dsa.pub madness
<whitequark>
heh
<DocScrutinizer05>
would any of you, by any incidence, know about how id_dsa.pub is meant to get used/needed my ssh* ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
s/my/by/
<qi-bot>
DocScrutinizer05 meant: "would any of you, by any incidence, know about how id_dsa.pub is meant to get used/needed by ssh* ?"
<DocScrutinizer05>
the most funny part is that everything works just fine without that file even existing
<whitequark>
no clue, I always used RSA keys in SSH
<DocScrutinizer05>
but some idiot process thinks it has to be there for unknown reasons, and thus creates it, though broken/trunkated
<whitequark>
maybe just with fewer bits
<DocScrutinizer05>
1023 vs 1115
<DocScrutinizer05>
1024 sounds like a bug
<DocScrutinizer05>
1023 like bug--
<whitequark>
it doesn't for me
<whitequark>
the keys are base64'd
<whitequark>
and have prologue/epilogue
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you want to do me a favour: rename *.pub in your ~/.ssh to something else, and check if everything still works
<whitequark>
define "everything"? I'm using dolphin as my file manager, is that fine?
<DocScrutinizer05>
ssh outbound, sftp outbound
<DocScrutinizer05>
yep, pretty fine
<DocScrutinizer05>
sftp://user@host
<viric>
do you use an agent?
<DocScrutinizer05>
creates new *.pub file for me
<DocScrutinizer05>
viric: please elaborate
<viric>
ssh-agent
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly not
<viric>
ps ax | grep agent
<viric>
:)
<DocScrutinizer05>
how would I check?
<DocScrutinizer05>
k
<viric>
some .xsession start agents
<DocScrutinizer05>
3023 ? Ss 0:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
<viric>
and the keys being created if non existant.
<viric>
Modify your agent-calling scripts not to create the keys you don't want.
<DocScrutinizer05>
viric: 1000 thanks
<viric>
And whether you're required a dsa key or a rsa key, it depends on what public key you put in remote hosts.
<viric>
If you put the dsa public key in remote hosts, then you'll need the dsa pair.
<viric>
you are welcome
<DocScrutinizer05>
the fun bit is: the generated id_dsa.pub is the original one, just truncated
<viric>
you've to check those who prepared your session start scripts, what they do and why
<DocScrutinizer05>
only source I could imagine is far end's allowed_keys
<whitequark>
authorized_keys
<whitequark>
probably
<DocScrutinizer05>
err yes
<whitequark>
I've no idea how the new id_dsa.pub can ever be like original one
<DocScrutinizer05>
is this weird? or is this WEIRD
<viric>
well, I think that the private part contains a keypair.
<whitequark>
this should not happen AT ALL
<viric>
but I'm not sure.
<DocScrutinizer05>
maybe, yeah
<whitequark>
viric: it does for RSA keys
<DocScrutinizer05>
thanks for all the feedback and help, have to enjoy a few minutes of ~rl
<DocScrutinizer05>
~rl
<infobot>
it has been said that rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm). Conways game using only rational numbers
<viric>
sqrt(2) can take part in real life, not only rationals.
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you got anything to add, I'll read backscroll when i'm back
<viric>
Real life goes much further than rationality.
<whitequark>
Real life goes even further than abolishing the rationality altogether; it can be said that it extends far beyond the very concept of rationality, leaving the distinction behind as simplistic.
<whitequark>
(if that's what you meant by "adding something"...)
<viric>
:)
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<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: how was the earthquake ?
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<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: not bad
<kristianpaul>
i was out of city, actually rural area
<kristianpaul>
was 11:30 so... then i get out of the house
<kristianpaul>
wait like one minute then back :)
<kristianpaul>
you?
<kristianpaul>
ah wait epicenter was in north choco
<kristianpaul>
this was a replica, the first one was today 4:30 am and 4.2 magnitude
<kristianpaul>
ah wait
<kristianpaul>
omg
* kristianpaul
reading the news
<kristianpaul>
i dint felt like 7.3 to me
<kristianpaul>
pehaps becuse was not in the town/town