<apritzel>
I think I tried TOC0 on my Remix at 128K, and had an image that booted on a normal Pine64 and a Remix
2020-11-16
<apritzel>
smaeul: if you don't have time, I can try to work it out. I have one secure H64 (Remix Mini) and one secure Pine64, so both are A64
2020-11-11
<apritzel>
I still have this Remix Mini, which was shipped with the secure fuse burnt (and ROTPK hash empty)
2018-09-19
<buZz>
parco: there was also talk the r8 would be remixed to gr8
2018-06-04
<KotCzarny>
remix jide rm1g tv box uses h64
2018-05-13
<focus>
A full KiCAD circuit diagram accompanies each board - so you can go remix your own / remix with other boards
2017-06-30
<MoeIcenowy>
(Jide Remix Mini burned the secure boot bit, however, it doesn't burn any key
2017-06-25
<bombuzal>
Hello! Has anyone here had much luck with the A/H64 Jide Remix Mini? I noticed a lot of stubs on the wiki entry but thought I'd ask here :P
2017-03-02
<ssvb>
either way, we need to support Jide Remix Mini somehow, so we are not getting away without TOC0 format support
2017-03-01
<jemk>
ssvb: i compared with the remix mini image and also generated my own with their tools, they are bit-identical with my script
2017-02-28
<ssvb>
a bit of confusion about the boot priority originated from Jide Remix Mini box, which has the secure eFUSE bit set and uses https://linux-sunxi.org/TOC0 format for the bootloader instead of old eGON.BT0
2017-02-27
<ssvb>
jemk: that's good to know, maybe Jide Remix Mini can be converted to use eGON.BT0 again, but I also do not want to try it yet :-)
<ssvb>
as for the Jide Remix Mini device, we don't know if eFUSE is programmable there (do they have voltage supplied to the right pin?)
2017-02-23
<apritzel>
interesting, only black screen on the Remix Mini
<apritzel>
jernej: I might give it a try on my Remix Mini PC, then
2017-02-21
<ssvb>
jemk: I can finally solder an UART header to my Jide Remix Mini box PCB and play with it a bit :-)
2017-02-17
<apritzel>
and here we go: the Remix Mini PC boots into upstream U-Boot, with just an SD card inserted, no FEL magic needed
2017-02-10
<apritzel>
so either one can't read the keys or there is none as well on the Remix
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: it's now the time to read Remix's SID out! ;-)
<apritzel>
so yes, this smc works on the Remix Mini PC
<beeble>
apritzel: you have a remix?
<MoeIcenowy>
can you do this on Remix?
2017-02-09
<apritzel>
jemk: I was wondering if I could use the two security holes in AW's software to access the secure side on the Remix Mini
<apritzel>
jemk: right, toc0, I saw this on the Remix Mini PC
<willmore>
apritzel, Did you try that same sequence on a Remix box?
2017-01-31
<apritzel>
MoeIcenowy: yes, I wanted to do experiments with the Remix tonight, among them the things you mentioned (booting Remix boot0 on Pine64, dumping Remix eMMC)
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: can you provide a dump of your Jide Remix Mini's first several MIB of eMMC ?
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: I think you can do the following try: read out boot0 from Remix Mini PC and write it to a SD card, then insert the SD card to your "secured" Pine64
<apritzel>
KotCzarny: vendors know how to do this: my "bricked" Pine64 looks now the same the Remix Mini PC
<apritzel>
my board is now almost bricked: it behaves as the Remix Mini PC: FEL mode starts in _nonsecure_ SVC, so no 64-bit switch anymore
2017-01-22
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: do you still have the boot log of Remix Mini?
2017-01-17
<Kosaka-Honoka>
apritzel: I think more precisely the problem you met on Remix Mini is that you cannot inject not signed code into secure world
<kristina>
apritzel: well it depends, on pine don't you gain control of the chain of trust much earlier than on remix?
<apritzel>
on the Remix Mini NS is set already
<Kosaka-Honoka>
apritzel: you cannot fully access SID on Remix Mini?
<apritzel>
this Remix Mini PC observes the security settings
<apritzel>
I have a Remix Mini PC, which has a very similar H64 CPU
2016-12-26
<buZz>
remix it :P
2016-12-19
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: are you interested in reading all of your Jide Remix Mini's eFUSE?
<MoeIcenowy>
the Jide Remix Mini enabled secure boot features
<MoeIcenowy>
maybe we should write a program and let apritzel run it on his Jide Remix Mini
2016-12-10
<apritzel>
dgp: but thanks for pointing me to that "secure boot" feature, that probably explains the long-standing mystery of why the Remix Mini behaves differently
<MoeIcenowy>
apritzel: so maybe it's the SID which is the reason of different BROM behaviour in Remix Mini?
<apritzel>
dgp: ah, the Remix Mini indeed uses this!
<apritzel>
dgp: I have a Remix Mini PC, where I see it working
2016-11-24
<hramrach>
hm, remix os
2016-11-10
<apritzel>
but there must be some way around this, as the Remix Mini eventually loads a 64-bit kernel
2016-11-09
<apritzel>
and that's different between BPi-M64 (A64, SDC0 first) and Remix Mini (H64, SDC2 first)
<MoeIcenowy>
According to apritzel's experiments on Banana Pi M64 and Jide Remix Mini
<MoeIcenowy>
I think your Jide Remix Mini is H64
2016-09-29
<apritzel>
ssvb: I might check back with the Remix Mini, but IIRC this booted just from the normal eMMC part
2016-08-19
<codekipper>
which board are you using?..Remix?
2016-08-16
<apritzel>
on the Remix Mini PC eMMC has priority over uSD, though
2016-07-13
<MoeIcenowy>
but on Remix Mini it ends up in non-secure SVC?
<MoeIcenowy>
Remix Mini have some kind of lock?
<apritzel>
MoeIcenowy: I have a a Remix Mini at home, and at least MMC2 worked there in U-Boot
2016-07-01
<MoeIcenowy>
remix...
2016-06-28
<apritzel>
and the Remix had some deviating settings
2016-05-30
<apritzel>
which explains why I can't access some peripherals or do a RMR call to get to 64-bit on the Remix
<apritzel>
and the Remix was executing in _non_secure SVC mode, whereas the Pine64 comes up in secure
<apritzel>
loading the same code on a Remix Mini PC and a Pine64
2016-05-26
<apritzel>
but on the Remix I can't touch SRAM A2, even the l.nop instructions aren't visible
2016-05-25
<ssvb>
wens: but I haven't experimented with eMMC yet, and will probably do it some time later with Jide Remix Mini
2016-05-24
<ssvb>
for example, in Jide Remix Mini
2016-05-09
<apritzel>
datagutt: hey, you are playing around with the Remix Mini?
<ssvb>
Remix Mini is using eMMC, so it is nowhere as complicated as NAND
<datagutt>
I recall one or two people in here having a Remix device, while Pine is the main dev device for A64
<datagutt>
What i am trying to do, is flash a boot.img to a Remix Mini using FEL or FES
<datagutt>
Well, neither Remix Mini or Pine A64 seems to have a fes1.fex in their images
2016-05-03
<lennyraposo>
which longsleep was correct in stating that android or remix is the only choices for that at the moment
2016-04-29
<apritzel>
jelle: the eMMC on the Remix MiniPC (H64) worked out of the box with U-Boot, I could read stuff from there and write that to an SD card
<willmore>
Remix does sound interesting.
<lennyraposo>
in remix specifically
<lennyraposo>
been trying to make a decent img for remix and android but that stupid Phoenix software builds a messy overlapping partition scheme
2016-04-25
<lennyraposo>
for Android and Remix from what I have read
<lennyraposo>
why the ethernet causes remix not to boot
<lennyraposo>
both android and remix
2016-04-23
<longsleep>
tkaiser: i doubt they will release a newer kernel, the newer stuff is already in remix OS and that is 3.10
<longsleep>
haha also if i look at the pictures, the remix os launcher takes 2/3 of the screen height already - i really do not see the use case
2016-04-05
<lennyraposo>
wonder if they figured the 2gb board issue in remix
2016-04-02
<longsleep>
the remix folks did probably something
2016-03-24
<wens>
lennyraposo: my coworker complained remix mini was very slow :/
<lennyraposo>
was just wondering about jide (remix OS)
2016-03-17
<longsleep>
good moment to try remix os
2016-03-14
<longsleep>
so maybe pulse is doing some remixing
2016-02-15
<apritzel>
mmc2 is not connected on the Pine64, but has the eMMC on the Remix Mini
<arokux>
apritzel: is Remix Mini a capable machine?
<apritzel>
arokux: I did this with U-Boot the other day (no DT in this case, but similar idea) and it worked out of the box on the Remix Mini
2016-02-11
<apritzel>
ssvb: I can read from (and probably write to) the eMMC on the Remix Mini (from U-Boot)
2016-02-10
<apritzel>
libv: but the Remix Mini PC was already out before, I think they shipped August last year
<apritzel>
also the same fix allows U-Boot to run on the Remix Mini!
2016-02-09
<ssvb>
oh, so you get the main U-Boot starting and printing something on the Remix Mini?
<apritzel>
(on the Remix Mini PC it's loaded via U-Boot's SPL via FEL, of course)
<apritzel>
interestingly it hangs at the very same place on the Remix Mini PC for me
2016-02-06
<wens>
any chance the remix mini is rooted, so one could just dd it out?
<ssvb>
apritzel: probably we need to extract 'dram_para' data from the Remix Mini boot0
<apritzel>
ssvb: by the way: I tried your U-Boot on the Remix Mini (via FEL)
2016-02-02
<ssvb>
tkaiser: yes, I have taken and uploaded some Remix Mini pictures, but I did not bother removing the heatsink
<ssvb>
apritzel: do you also have remix mini?
<MoeIcenowy>
remix mini>
<wens>
apritzel: fyi the remix mini can be opened up, and you can add an uart
2016-01-19
<apritzel>
I was just wondering because this whole Remix things sound like more about the software to me
<tkaiser>
apritzel: And how to recover from a bricked Remix Mini?
<wens>
apritzel: fyi the remix mini has no screws, so i'm likely to destroy the case taking it apart :|
<tkaiser>
Now I wonder whether the Remix Mini contains a hub or does it exactly the same as Pine64. OTG with type A receptacle
<apritzel>
does anybody know here whether the Remix Mini PC has a locked firmware or something? Could I load my own kernels there?
2016-01-11
<tkaiser>
And I don't get how the Remix folk might profit from this deal. Their business modell is to sell Remix OS to hardware vendors
<ssvb>
tkaiser: my understanding is that Pine64 people are currently negotiating with the Remix OS guys
2016-01-10
<libv>
remix OS offers "Experience unparalleled performance"
2015-10-23
<wens>
anyone heard of the remix mini? supposedly has Allwinner 64bit SoC in it
2015-07-21
<RSpliet>
they mark Remix OS as popular... their statements require a moderately-sized salt factory
<arete74>
os is remix os
2014-02-16
<libv>
hrm, hans and his fedora remix images... his emails always gets random "it doesn't work" questions...
2013-12-22
<Night-Shade>
I've used both the fedora arm remix and the linaro ubuntu image
2013-12-16
<libv>
by yet another person who needs to reply to the "fedora arm remix" email
2013-12-10
<hansg>
Right, I still plan to do the remix for a while, it just won't get much of a focus wrt adding really new stuff (just rebase to latest Fedora + new boards from sunxi-boards
<mripard>
you'll get a remix with the 3.4 kernel, just like you do
2013-03-26
<oliv3r>
i'd install gentoo, but since I installed one of the early ssd's on it years ago (32gb only) and i wanted my laptop to 'always work' and have 'fluff' i choose mainstream distro; i'll see how gnome remix of ubuntu goes, and if its as bad as 12.04, i'll try something else :) one of the reason i've stuck with ubuntu for so long though, stupidly is I like the default colorscheme :p i hate feodra's