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<dbandstra>
it's an init function returning struct-in-struct-in-struct, methods in the innermost one (two layers of fieldParentPtr)
<dbandstra>
just off hand. i'm getting a crash but it seems to depend on random other parts of the program so i still haven't been able to isolate it
<dbandstra>
(like if i instantiate one of these "Outer" objects as a global, and use it in a test, it crashes. but if i instantiate it within the test, it works. if i copy the whole thing to a new empty project, it works even as a global...)
<dbandstra>
possibly some kind of struct-returning-memcpy-related thing?
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<andrewrk>
dbandstra, this should be straightforward to test with a debugger
<andrewrk>
printing the memory addresses of the things
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<GitHub134>
zig/master 4a35d7e Marc Tiehuis: Correct hex-float parsing...
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<GitHub9>
[zig] tiehuis opened pull request #1166: compiler_rt f128 support additions (master...issue-495) https://git.io/f4FZZ
<GitHub143>
[zig] Hejsil opened pull request #1167: Implement const_values_equal for arrays (master...comptime-array-by-value) https://git.io/f4FZd
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<GitHub199>
[zig] isaachier opened pull request #1168: Clarify reason implicit cast does not work for large RHS (master...shift-amt-error-improvement) https://git.io/f4F6a
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<v1bri>
are there any docs on the motivation to avoid a borrow checker in zig?
<andrewrk>
v1bri, why not use rust, if you want a borrow checker?
<andrewrk>
what I want to avoid in zig is a large set of valid, safe programs which are unable to compile
<v1bri>
"why not use rust", a valid question...
<v1bri>
because zig is getting more things right: defer, error handling, comptime, memory allocation (and failure to do so)
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<Triplefox[m]>
rust is talented at solving certain memory management problems that are both intrinsically complex and need deep optimization...most either aren't that complex or do not need optimization and i think zig is currently working on answers within the "not that complex" part of this venn diagram
<Triplefox[m]>
there's always opportunities to discover simpler semantics that get many of the same qualities without the same overhead...if we analogize that cs is like mathematics, it's all a question of figuring out how to reframe the problem
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<v1bri>
rad thanks. i think enforced error handling is going to go a long way in helping everyone avoid common PITA bugs
<andrewrk>
I do want to make the semantic analysis catch more memory safety bugs
<andrewrk>
but not the full guarantees that rust provides
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<v1bri>
great. i agree, there is room for improved ergonomics over what rust provides
<v1bri>
very interested in the proposals on enforced resource type handling (#494, #782, #885)
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<v1bri>
also the docs are a little vague on the "blk: { <stuff>; break :blk <expression>; }" pattern
<v1bri>
that just means the block evaluates to the expression following the "break"?
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