13:02 <MajorLag_> Lot of new keywords being proposed for Zig lately. Personal concern: if one of the goals is to keep the language small and understandable, the trade off doesn't seem worth it.

15:14 <andrewrk> MajorLag_, I share that concern

15:17 <andrewrk> MajorLag_, what do you think about the coroutines proposal?

15:29 <MajorLag_> I'm not qualified to offer an opinion. Coroutines aren't something I've ever used come to think of it. I do wonder if the type->type syntax couldn't be used more broadly though.

15:32 <MajorLag_> Like: struct->{x: f32, y: f32}; union->{i: u32, f: f32}; tuple->{u32, []const u8}; This could solve the return type ambiguity.

15:34 <andrewrk> that's a good observation

15:35 <andrewrk> I do think that the biggest downside to the resource cleanup proposal is the increased size of the language

15:35 <andrewrk> the only reason I would still consider it, is because requiring some kind of cleanup strategy - or having to specify "manual cleanup" - prevents bugs

15:36 <andrewrk> "in practice it prevents bugs" is one of the only reasons to make the language bigger

15:43 <MajorLag_> One thing I was wondering about that is, if I'm interfacing with C, there's no way the compiler knows what is being returned is a resource that needs cleanup or what the appropriate cleanup is, so I lose that protection anyway.

15:45 <MajorLag_> I guess that sorta just comes with interfacing with C though.

15:54 <MajorLag_> Oh, and -> doesn't solve the return type ambiguity because you'd have the change the initialization, not the declaration.

15:54 <andrewrk> true, kind of similar with pointers all having to be nullable if you parse a .h file

16:13 <MajorLag_> Is the cleanup function part of the type signature?

16:13 <andrewrk> yes

17:01 <GitHub136> [zig] bnoordhuis opened pull request #783: name types inside functions after variable (master...fix675) https://git.io/vAg8a

19:27 <GitHub20> [zig] andrewrk closed pull request #783: name types inside functions after variable (master...fix675) https://git.io/vAg8a

19:27 <GitHub186> zig/master b66547e Andrew Kelley: Merge pull request #783 from bnoordhuis/fix675...

19:27 <GitHub186> zig/master 0845cbe Ben Noordhuis: name types inside functions after variable...

19:27 <GitHub186> [zig] andrewrk pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAgXv