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maikmerten>
I have a question regarding the "est tns" output of nextpnr. For my design, the output startes highly negative, then creeps towards zero
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maikmerten>
Info: at iteration #1: temp = 10000.000000, cost = 112265, est tns = -2366.69ns
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maikmerten>
Info: at iteration #365: temp = 0.000001, cost = 9392, est tns = -0.96ns
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maikmerten>
so is that the timing slack, with negative numbers meaning the timing target is not yet reached?
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daveshah>
maikmerten: this is a very rough estimate of timing used by the placer
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daveshah>
it's primarly there fore placer debugging than as a real indicator as to whether the design will pass timing after routing
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maikmerten>
ah, thanks
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daveshah>
it is the sum of all the estimated (budget - actual slack
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daveshah>
*actual delay)
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daveshah>
when that value is negative
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maikmerten>
I noticed that with low values of --slack_redist_iter it appears to creep faster towards zero
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daveshah>
That is also because slack_redist_iter will redistribute the budget
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daveshah>
So it will allow a higher amount of delay in the slower parts of the paths
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maikmerten>
so that's not simply a "try harder" button that trades of computational effort and quality
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maikmerten>
so, in the end the routing ending up with
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maikmerten>
Info: at iteration #385: temp = 0.000000, cost = 11258, est tns = -114.20ns
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maikmerten>
Info: at iteration #386: temp = 0.000000, cost = 11258.000000
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maikmerten>
is not troublesome, because that's basically a preliminary estimate
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maikmerten>
Info: Max frequency for clock 'uart_inst.CLK_I_$glb_clk': 29.83 MHz (PASS at 28.00 MHz)
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maikmerten>
being the real deal
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daveshah>
Yes, that is correct
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maikmerten>
cool, thanks again for taking the time to answer my somewhat basic questions!
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