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<zuz> koo5: what would a change to the environment entail?
<zuz> I guess it would be smarter terminal emulators
<zuz> A terminal emulator that displays inline images and renders markdown, for example
<koo5> err no consoles are only a part of the chicken and egg problem
<zuz> Sure, there is no motivation for a terminal to implement these features if programs don't use them
<koo5> i dunno what would change it, maybe aliens landing on earth
<koo5> a huge kickstarter, dunno
<zuz> Ha I'm not sure that's necessary
<zuz> There is already a patch to xterm that allows displaying inline images
<zuz> I have used it with w3m
<koo5> theres a bunch of project along those lines
<zuz> or maybe it was elinks2
<zuz> It seems to me, the first step is to define terminal capabilities and name them
<koo5> sounds good
<zuz> We have xterm, vt100, ansi, etc. Something to build on those and incorporate pointer devices, layout, etc
<koo5> vt100 or whatever its named that we're all using is a huge mess
<koo5> as you prolly know
<koo5> but
<koo5> i agree that thats the way
<zuz> It may be (burn me at the stake for heresy) that the next generation console / terminal emulator should be built in the browser
<koo5> ok you asked for it
<koo5> just kidding
<zuz> either leveraging the built-in HTML/CSS rendering, or in a WebGL context
<koo5> we'll burn you for naivety instead!
<koo5> if you go (web)gl, why would you wrap it in a browser first?
<zuz> for ease of deployment
<koo5> btw there is termkit
<zuz> Thanks. I remember XMLTerm years ago. Termkit looks like it may be the best thing going now
<koo5> its not going, its long dead
<koo5> anyway, my idea would be to start with libvte, a fullblown vt100 emulator
<koo5> ive poked in the rendering guts and they are clean and hackable
<zuz> Hmm interesting. Using Gnome VTE terminal widget, or just the library?
<koo5> been a while since i messed with it..
<zuz> It sounds like just what the doctor ordered
<koo5> i didnt get that joke
<koo5> it has to be somewhere here...
<koo5> i agree a web widget has got to be the best way to present the structured data tho
<koo5> so, hm, we could hack libvte to embed a web widget?
<koo5> i think we would want to start with the whole widget
<koo5> maybe we could have a window that would display a vte widget, when structured output is detected, it would create a web widget underneath, and so on, making a scrollable stack of them
<koo5> it would be kinda xiki-like, in that whenever a new widget is added, the old one stays there for you to go back to
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<zuz> To start with I'd like a terminal emulator that displays multiple fonts
<zuz> Not just different faces like italic and bold. I want syntax highlighting puts function names in Deja Sans Mono and keywords in Courier.
<koo5> all mono?
<koo5> all mono is easy
<zuz> Yes all mono - I don't use variable width fonts