01:45 <ohsix> whitequark: going to support IGES/STEP?

01:45 <ohsix> was looking at that a few months ago, cuz i wondered why nobody did it (everyone talks about dxf sucking or stl being not good for interchange, and offhand mention of step)

01:46 <ohsix> there's a weird version of some loader that's been translated from fortran or something out there

02:42 <whitequark> ohsix: yes, STEP

02:42 <whitequark> there's https://github.com/stepcode/stepcode which seems p decent

02:42 <whitequark> IGES is an utter nightmare

02:48 <ohsix> hm i think i saw that, but i wasn't exactly keeping notes or seriously looking :p

02:48 <ohsix> the slicers don't read step files either

02:48 <ohsix> it's kind of a weird thing like lisp but not obviously a programming language

02:48 <whitequark> it's more like XML

02:49 <whitequark> or rather SGML even

02:49 <whitequark> you have these weird EXPRESS schemas, which are like DTD

02:49 <ohsix> :| need to check out all the software nist publishes too

02:49 <ohsix> i migh tbe conflating it with iges

02:50 <whitequark> nist also made iges

02:50 <whitequark> have you seen iges? it's made for punched cards, and i don't mean like fortran was made for punched cards

02:50 <whitequark> i mean like mumps was made for punched cards

02:51 <ohsix> i'll have to refresh to have this conversation apparently :D

02:54 <ohsix> hrm was thinking of a specific part of step but none of these seem familiar

02:56 <whitequark> i'm sure it has many atrocities that i have yet to discover

03:54 <ohsix> hruhg

03:55 <ohsix> they probably need most of that stuff in STEP, but boy is it ever imposing if you are looking at supporting it

03:55 <ohsix> not that you actually want to have to, but it should be kind of straight forward to have your own impl in a few months of work (modulo extreme complexity)

06:36 <EvilSpirit> hi 2 all

06:37 <d42> hai

12:04 <GitHub> [solvespace] olt opened issue #94: Crash when using symmetric constrains on two points https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/94

16:57 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #94: Sigh... I've missed that commit in the 2.x branch somehow. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/94#issuecomment-255599875

17:43 <balrog> whitequark: how's it going?

18:02 <whitequark> balrog: what is?

18:14 <cr1901_modern> whitequark: it=="your life" I think.

18:21 <whitequark> well, I'm still alive

21:38 <reportingsjr> Hmmm, I need to create a sort of spring mechanism to hold a foot on to a microwave. Not unlike a toggle bolt where you put a spring loaded bit in to the hole and it spreads out once through the hole to lock in.

21:39 <reportingsjr> More or less this: https://www.kimballmidwest.com/images/products/small/13-1052.jpg

21:41 <reportingsjr> To make the springy bits (I plan on only having them supported from one side rather than two in that picture) is the most reasonable option to just extrude out the center post, then extrude maybe a rectangle off of that and finally the two springy bits off of that?