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<anthropy> huh, for some reason owntracks works fine on Oasis.. is there anything I could've configured wrong?
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<anthropy> Is 'vagrant-spk' supposed to be installed on the host machine? I can't find it
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<anthropy> I put my problem in a question on SuperUser.. http://superuser.com/questions/1161906/sandstorm-apps-sometimes-fail-to-access-or-save-data I'm still trying to figure out what's exactly going wrong, and why some apps work on oasis but not on my machine
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<mnutt> unfortunately I don't have the StackOverflow reputation to respond to anthropy's question, but Owntracks server was last published quite a while before the android version came out, the API may have changed
<mnutt> but given that it works on oasis but not his local server, I'm more inclined to think that it's a problem with certs or possibly filesystem permissions or something
<mnutt> regardless, I'm going to publish a new version. looks like they've added OSM support, which is a slight step up from google maps in terms of privacy, and might let us use a fully self-hosted version in the future
<TimMc> Hmm, I wonder how large an OSM browsing app would be.
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<mnutt> the way I envisioned it, you'd create a new grain, download whatever region file(s) you cared about from OSM, then drop them into the grain. that grain would expose an API that could be used by other apps
<mnutt> such as owntracks, perhaps a photo management app that let you see your photos on a map, etc
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<ill_logic_> Hi all. I'm working on a package wherein I would like to have access to a FileDrop file.
<ill_logic_> So, I make a FileDrop grain, put my file in there. Then I make a grain of my app, and "import" the file from the FileDrop in the first grain.
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<ill_logic_> Is that possible yet, and if so, where should I be looking?
<dwrensha> not possible yet
<ill_logic_> If I really wanted to hack it, I could use a share link, right?
<dwrensha> but these recent changes are a big step towards such things: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/pull/2806
<ill_logic_> In principle that seems possible.
<dwrensha> share links are not redeemable by other apps
<dwrensha> apps need to connect with each other through the powerbox
<ill_logic_> okay
<ill_logic_> I'll look up what powerbox can do.
<ill_logic_> Oh that's the thing that lets you share a document in a Rocket.Chat. And that's still not enough for what I want to do?
<dwrensha> when you embed a link in a Rocket.Chat, that link is only redeemable by humans
<ill_logic_> "Create a survey form that feeds into a spreadsheet, attach a document to a chat message, or give a scheduling app access to your calendar."
<ill_logic_> from /features
<ill_logic_> Seems like it involves apps interacting with each others' data.
<dwrensha> right, but not implemented yet :(
<ill_logic_> ah! got it. okay, I'll check back in periodically then.
<ill_logic_> I'll work on other aspects of my package then.
<ill_logic_> Do you have any idea how soon this will work?
<dwrensha> I think kentonv is currently focusing on app-to-app powerbox stuff pertaining to Etherpad
<dwrensha> so perhaps in the "small number of weeks" timescale
<ill_logic_> oh wow, awesome
<dwrensha> actually, I think the low-level bits are all in place now
<ill_logic_> that's fantastic.
<ill_logic_> Great to see Sandstorm making this kind of progress.
<ill_logic_> It's interesting though, it seems like it may ask a lot from the app developers to stay compatible with it (especially if they don't want to tightly couple to it)
<dwrensha> kentonv's sketch of what an HTTP powerbox bridge might look like: https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/OaQ9wQrwATIGIA8QZJ9lJfj0CU8v55l4JOA_twtDzQ6