drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.0.rc.1: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-0-rc-1 – Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<indirect> evan: ping
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<indirect> evan: qrush: ping? gems are disappearing from s3 but not the master index :(
<evan> O_o.
<evan> disappearing?
<qrush> indirect: eh?
<indirect> a list of 10 gems that are still in Marshal and specs but are not present on s3
<indirect> either gemspec or gem for the ones I tested
<evan> are new ones appearing?
<indirect> o_O
<evan> or are you just seeing them for the first time now
<indirect> I don't know if it's a bug in yanking, but I am just seeing those 10 for the first time this week
<indirect> there were no such gems a month ago
<qrush> messed up :[
<indirect> those ten gems are all listed on rubygems.org, but have the dreaded "N/A" size, and link to 404s on S3
<indirect> it worries me a lot that old gems are apparently just mysteriously vanishing :(
<evan> well
<evan> I have a feeling they're not vanishing
<evan> if they're N/A and old
<evan> they've been missing for a while
<evan> ever since I added the size patch
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<indirect> evan: so maybe we just need to remove them from the Marshal and specs indexes?
<evan> yeah
<evan> i'll get to that shortly
<indirect> okay, thanks
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<Gibheer> hi evan
<evan> hi!
<Gibheer> the reason is, that we have many servers separated from the internet
<Gibheer> so no way to pull the gems directly from rubygems
<Gibheer> plus we are running a mix of MRI, rubinius and jruby, so bundle package is not sufficent
<evan> ok
<evan> the reason I tend to tell people not to mirror rubygems
<evan> is that you'll end up pulling down and manage huge volumes of data you don't care about
<evan> thats too bad bundle package won't work for you, thats the easiest
<Gibheer> yeah, that's true
<evan> maybe you could talk through that with indirect and see if there is a way to make it work
<indirect> Gibheer: you can package once for each of MRI rubinius and jruby and it should work?
<indirect> although you are likely to need separate lockfiles for jruby and the others
<Gibheer> indirect: it should work, yes, but it depends on the developers having all three of them installed
<evan> you could have CI do that
<indirect> Gibheer: yeah, what evan said
<Gibheer> right, but then I would again punch holes into the firewall which is executing scripts. Not a nice way
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<Gibheer> but you got me thinking - maybe I can run something like squid
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<evan> yeah
<evan> thats the next place
<evan> we run nginx in caching proxy mode on our mirrors
<evan> so they act as pull through caches.
<evan> you can do the same
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<Gibheer> I will try that
<evan> all the devs will have to use your proxy
<evan> and all apps will have to be bundled at least once on a dev machine for each platform
<evan> to prime the cache.
<Gibheer> sounds like a possible approach for me
<evan> optionally, you can allow that squid proxy to rubygems.org only
<evan> so that it can pull files on it's own.
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<evan> so that at least it's controlled.
<Gibheer> yeah, that's what I would build
<evan> cool
<evan> thats going to be the most flexible
<evan> if you can do that, do it.
<Gibheer> but out of coriosity - why don't you offer rsync to build mirrors, as it only pulls the diffs
<evan> we could
<evan> it's just not a priority
<evan> and it costs in both additional bandwidth and machines
<Gibheer> ah, okay
<evan> because we'd have to have some dedicated rsync endpoints
<evan> diffing the index is big
<evan> and it's updated multiple times per minute many times
<Gibheer> wow, our index building is working since friday
<Gibheer> thats why we are looking into other approaches
<evan> gotcha
<evan> if you must do it, we could probably work something out, but it requires constant work on your and and our end
<evan> so if we can avoid it, we sould.
<evan> should
<Gibheer> right
<Gibheer> will keep you updated, when we get it working
<Gibheer> and will also post about it to make live easier for others too
<evan> cool, thanks!
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<drbrain> evan: qrush: can one of you help fix Hal Fulton's login: http://help.rubygems.org/discussions/problems/8302-cant-login
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<drbrain> indirect: ping
<indirect> drbrain: yo
<indirect> what's up?
<drbrain> I'd like a final check of rubygems master against bundler master for 2.1 rc 2
<indirect> drbrain: sure... master brancth?
<drbrain> yeah
<indirect> err branch
<indirect> hah
<indirect> ok
<drbrain> what was the command to run it again?
<drbrain> I always forget
<drbrain> and I can never think of the right keywords to find it in my logs
<drbrain> (I feel bad for not remembering how to fish)
<indirect> drbrain: haha no worries. from a bundler checkout, it's "rake spec:rubygems:master"
<indirect> or, if you want to run against a rubygems checkout, it's: "RG=/path/to/rubygems rake spec:rubygems:co"
<drbrain> thanks
<indirect> np
<drbrain> indirect: I got 874 examples, 0 failures, 2 pending
<indirect> drbrain: against the 1.3.5 release, I got 836 examples, 0 failures, 2 pending
<indirect> master hasn't quite finished running yet
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<drbrain> I ran master on master
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<indirect> drbrain: yep, I also see green for master on master
<indirect> I am +1 on rubygems master :)
<drbrain> woo!
<drbrain> I found one minor test problem on 1.8 which I fixed
<drbrain> bundler won't be affected by it
<indirect> drbrain: great!
<drbrain> evan: ping
<evan> drbrain: yo
<drbrain> evan: I want you to teach me how to get the user-agent stats off of rubygems.org
<drbrain> so I don't have to ask you
<evan> ok, I need to wrap it up into something you can run then.
<drbrain> I see
<evan> but I can certainly do that a little later.
<drbrain> ok, np
<drbrain> evan: also, if you know how to fix Hal Fulton's rubygems.org login, it would be appreciated
<evan> yeah, I need to take a look
<evan> i'm not sure why he didn't just get a new rubygems.org account
<evan> rather than a new rubyforge account
<evan> i'm sure the sync there has been busted for a very long time
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