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phaul >
&>> {a: 1, b: 2, c: 3}.select { |k| [:a, :c].include? k } # sagax
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phaul >
this keeps the original hash
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sagax >
not bad, not bad, but select can't make default value as `nil`
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`select` understand only `true` or `false`
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phaul >
I missed that bit from the requirements.
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depending on how you use it it could be ok though
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`requirements` it's native? because in ruby 2.2.1 have not `requirements`
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How do you preserve type informations? Do you put it in the source code comment?
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momozor >
Or rather, just look at unit test for how certain function/methoc/whatever is being used?
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momozor >
and guess the passed type information from the unit tests
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adam12 >
Anybody remember which issue the argument delegation feature was discussed in? (`...`). It's impossible to search for.
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TatteredGusset >
Hi all, apologies for the ‘Eternal September’ type message. Please just tell me if this is not the right sort of post for this channel and I won’t ask again.
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TatteredGusset >
I’m learning Ruby from Chris Pine’s ‘Learn to Program’ and loving it. The first time I have found a book on its own to be the best way to learn anything.
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TatteredGusset >
I had a question. There is the ubiquitous ‘make a word sorter without using sort’ exercise. When taking potential capitalization into account, my thought is to take the word-list and make a hash like so recording which word had a capital letter. Then at the end we use .capitalize() on the words with ‘true’.
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TatteredGusset >
{{:word=>"apple", :cap=>true }, {:word=>"zebra", :cap=>true}, {:word=>"puffin", :cap=>false}}
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TatteredGusset >
Which type of Hash would be most suitable assuming no duplicates and why?
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TatteredGusset >
Or
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TatteredGusset >
{:apple => true, :zebra => false, :puffin => true}
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TatteredGusset >
{{:word => "apple", :cap => true, :ascii-96 => 1}, {:word =>"zebra", :cap =>true, :ascii_min_96 => 26}, {:word => "puffin", :cap => false, :ascii_min_96 => 16}}
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TatteredGusset >
If I were to add another object associated with each word. Would you do
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TatteredGusset >
Or
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TatteredGusset >
{:apple => {:cap => true, :ascii-96 => 1}, :zebra => {:cap => true, :ascii_min_96 => 26} , :puffin => {:cap => false, :ascii_min_96 => 16}}
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Many thanks for any advice or pointers!
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adam12 >
TatteredGusset: Calling capitalize would likely fail on something like `McDonalds`, so I think that's an edge case.
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adam12 >
TatteredGusset: You could always make your own object and store things on it. Ie. It could be a Word object that has a downcased version of the word, the original word, and maybe something else? Use the downcased version of the word for comparison and keep the original around for presentation.
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adam12 >
TatteredGusset: There's nothing wrong with using Hash's here but sometimes it's referred to as primitive obsession. Don't be afraid to use your own types of objects or wrap existing objects.
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adam12 >
TatteredGusset: If you end up making your own class, you'll likely want to look at the Rocketship operator and Comparable module.
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* havenwood
flies off in a <=>
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TatteredGusset >
adam12 Ah yes the McD example is so true. Thanks for pointing that out. I am just reading about Primitive Obsession, it wasn't a concept I had come across before.
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TatteredGusset: I would definitely go with comparing downcased strings, but you then have to double-check when you have two strings that are different as entered but identical when downcased, so make sure you account for that.
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TatteredGusset: (re: what adam12 said)
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adam12: What do you mean "Rocketship operator"? I mean, there's the "hash rocket", and there's the "spaceship operator". I don't think I've encountered a reference to any "rocketship operator".
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apotheon >
adam12: If you mean a spaceship operator, I think just using that directly is tantamount to using a sort method, so it would probably undermine the intention of the exercise.
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adam12 >
apotheon: I meant the spaceship operator. It was pre-lunch ;)
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apotheon >
Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying.
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apotheon >
I guess I don't know for sure whether using the spaceship operator violates the spirit of the exercise, though, because I haven't read Chris Pine's book.
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adam12 >
apotheon: Possibly. I hadn't seen the exercise intention.
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adam12 >
Or rather, seen the exercise to determine the intention.
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apotheon >
I think I skimmed the tutorial on which the book was based before there was a book, but I don't recall much about it except that, to me, it didn't feel like a significant enough introduction to the language.
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apotheon >
. . . then the author went on to play a young James T. Kirk! Wait, no, that's the wrong Chris Pine.
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adam12 >
It's interesting that there's hash "rocket" (=>) but "spaceship" operator (<=>). I kinda like my naming as "rocketship" operator more.
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apotheon >
the spaceship operator looks to me more like a flying saucer, and the hash rocket has more of a rocket-y look to it.
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<
apotheon >
s/^the/The/
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<
adam12 >
We're in whiteboard programming territory right now. "Sort this list of values". "OK". values.sort.
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apotheon >
"Now implement quicksort or bubble sort."
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apotheon >
Now that I think about it, given the likely target audience of Chris Pine's book, maybe using the spaceship operator really
*is* what was intended. I really don't know.
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apotheon >
I mean, if this was in Perl 5 and it said don't use something built in, it would pretty much
*have to* mean "Don't use the spaceship operator."
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apotheon >
Using the spaceship operator was
*the* way to sort things in Perl.
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apotheon >
If the book demands writing a sorting algorithm directly, though, I think bubble sort would probably be the most straightforward way to write it, even if not the most efficient.
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thanks for your points
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I hope they help.
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TatteredGusset >
to be fair to Chris's book, my father is pushing 80 and I thought he could probably learn from it :)
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