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<cthu|> what's the Object called in Ruby?
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<cthu|> I want to overload puts and add a few checks in it
<cthu|> and I also don't want to change local context of my local puts
<cthu|> so I want to say in it something like Object.puts(message)
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<cthu|> wonder if it'd work
<cthu|> by now everything I try just works
<cthu|> it's gonna be fun if it works
<baweaver> cthu|: Why?
<cthu|> I need to check if debug is on
<cthu|> in this class
<cthu|> it's not meant to puts anything for other people who don't touch it
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<cthu|> so I use my local var that it checks for to decide whether puts or not
<cthu|> but I add that logic to every puts here and I have a bunch of them
<baweaver> just use suffix conditionals
<cthu|> I know, but I will forget and continue using puts
<cthu|> so I want to overload real puts
<cthu|> it's also fun
<baweaver> No you don't
<cthu|> fun
<cthu|> fun it the main reason
<cthu|> I don't care that overloading native methods is bad
<cthu|> I know it.
<cthu|> never in my life have I done it. For Ruby.
<cthu|> HAve to do it once
<cthu|> you know, like I have to.
<baweaver> You don't particularly _have_ to do anything.
<baweaver> That's what you make loggers for
<cthu|> I know
<cthu|> I don't like it
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<cthu|> I actually have the logger gem installed
<cthu|> it doesn't do the trick
<cthu|> or does it rather awkwardly
<baweaver> easy on the enter key
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<cthu|> it doesn't allow me to create custom crap
<cthu|> just use the six levels it offers and that's it.
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<cthu|> None of them is good for me
<baweaver> Chances are you really don't need to.
<cthu|> anyhow, my aim is to have fun
<cthu|> so... I will try $stdout.puts("qwe")
<cthu|> I'm also curious about $
<cthu|> what is $?
<baweaver> There's a difference between learning something useful and just developing bad habits.
<baweaver> Like global variables
<cthu|> yeah, so I'm learning
<cthu|> $ is a global?
<cthu|> hm
<cthu|> it's strange that stdout is a variable
<cthu|> although ues
<cthu|> it makes sense
<cthu|> ok
<baweaver> ...
<cthu|> I guess that will give me the context I want
<baweaver> What was that that was _just_ mentioned about going easy on the enter key?
<cthu|> sorry
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<baweaver> It's not a space bar, give the poor thing a break.
<cthu|> ok, ok, enough rumbling about enter. So typical of irc
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<cthu|> Ha! works! It's the first and the last time I'm overloading a native method in Ruby. I wonder if I could use something else, instead of $stdout. Could I?
<coltkirk> ive been prattling with emacs/elisp for a few years, thinking about taking the next step into the ruby-verse
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<baweaver> puts is a method defined on IO type objects.
<baweaver> That's why you get things like File puts, IO puts, and other such methods
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<cthu|> right, but I thought maybe there was a child of stdout that is closer to our beloved puts
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<cthu|> although, it may be the other way around. Maybe put is somewhere above and then stdout just uses it to create puts
<baweaver> It's in Kernel and IO
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<havenwood> &>> method(:puts).owner
<rubydoc> # => Kernel (https://carc.in/#/r/5noy)
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<Inside> hey guys
<Inside> anyone in here use opencv?
<Inside> it seems like the ruby gem is at 2.4 whereas latest is 4.0
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<xco> hi everyone, need some second pair of eyes, i rewrote this method can someone please tell me if they are the same? i think they are https://gist.github.com/xcobar/e485b5e7e591959e993aedae35423991
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<xco> hi everyone, need some second pair of eyes, i rewrote this method can someone please tell me if they are the same? i think they are https://gist.github.com/xcobar/e485b5e7e591959e993aedae35423991
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<Iambchop> xco: try "puts admin_link(false)" with both versions
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<xco> Iambchop: got it ;)
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<crankharder> I'm trying to improve a gem's test suite (that uses appraisal) and it's spitting out a huge amount of these warnings: "warning: method redefined; discarding old request" - Does anyone know how to reproduce a warning like that? Can't say I've seen it much. Seems like it's a warning coming out of ruby-core, but maybe not?
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<pwned> hi, is it possible to use multiple cores using one process in MRI ruby ?
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<pwned> I'm imagining perhaps there could be a gem that delegates some work to pthreads?
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<havenwood> pwned: Ruby Threads are backed by pthreads but there's a global vm lock (GVL) that sometimes prevents parallel.
<havenwood> pwned: Here's a three-part article on how the GVL (used to be called GIL) works: https://www.jstorimer.com/blogs/workingwithcode/8085491-nobody-understands-the-gil
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<pwned> oh that's what I thought it was called, too :-)
<havenwood> For fun, you can unlock the GVL with Fiddle: https://gist.github.com/tenderlove/5733632
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<pwned> wow, he's monkey patching the GVL
<pwned> that's high level
<pwned> thanks havenwood
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: that gist needs updating to use rb_thread_call_without_gvl.
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<havenwood> al2o3-cr: nice
<al2o3-cr> use gvl2 if you want interrupt
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<havenwood> @baweaver's RubyConf talk was just posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3b9KlzjJNM
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<havenwood> (We get an IRC #ruby channel shoutout.) :)
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<miah> yay
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<miah> such a fun talk
<miah> baweaver did such a great job
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<baweaver> Much fun and pun were had, I hope you all enjoy it :D
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<havenwood> &>> %w[f p].sample + 'un'
<rubydoc> # => "pun" (https://carc.in/#/r/5nwc)
<baweaver> It's a bundle of fun
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<SeepingN> pfun
<SeepingN> from price pfister
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<Eiam> wow
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<baweaver> Eiam: ?
<Eiam> just watched!
<baweaver> Ah! Enjoy it?
<Eiam> fun
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