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<dminuoso> ∀x∃c.c > x
<dminuoso> Amazing!
<dminuoso> λ
<RickHull> doesn't ruby respect λ now?
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<RickHull> for every x there exists a c such that c is greater than x?
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<havenwood> alias λ lambda
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<dminuoso> RickHull: Yup
<RickHull> is λ a valid gem name?
<RickHull> btw DIBS
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<dminuoso> RickHull: Any utf8 name that is not a reserved keyword or uses characters special to the syntax is allowed as an identifier.
<RickHull> didn't npm recently have some problems with utf character spoofing?
<RickHull> (speaking of rubygems and utf)
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<RickHull> or maybe it was hyphens or other similar typos
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<dminuoso> >> Kernel.send(:alias_method, :lambda, :λ); f = λ { |x| x * 2 }; puts f.(2)
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso: # => undefined method `λ' for module `Kernel' (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/909552)
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<dminuoso> >> Kernel.send(:alias_method, :λ, :lambda); f = λ { |x| x * 2 }; puts f.(2)
<ruby[bot]> dminuoso: # => 4 ...check link for more (https://eval.in/909553)
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<RickHull> I want to start a campaign for non-significant positional args for aliases
<RickHull> alias(foo, bar) will create whichever doesn't exist
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<dminuoso> yeah no.
<dminuoso> people who screw this up (like me) should be punished for being bad.
<dminuoso> RickHull: if the programmer makes a mistake, its not the languages job to "guess" and "autofix"
<RickHull> I can never remember. it makes me unhappy as a developer
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<RickHull> dminuoso: it is not a problem to just declare the semantics that the position doesn't matter
<dminuoso> RickHull: What if both exist?
<RickHull> blow up
<RickHull> i wouldn't be opposed to electrical leads going to the programmer's chair, mouse, or keyboard
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<RickHull> PEBKAC? well duh, you disconnected the shock therapy encouragerator
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<darthho0> whats that interactive interpretor for ruby?
<baweaver> irb
<baweaver> or pry
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<al2o3-cr> ~
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<dionysus70> has anyone succeeded in running ruby on android?
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<baweaver> Ruboto did at some point
<baweaver> haven't looked in forever though
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<Arahael> It's doable, for sure.
<Arahael> Hell, people have brought entire distros into it.
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<sneep> dionysus70: ruby appears to run on Termux, in case you didn't mean something more stand-alone
<dionysus70> kk thx I ll google around termux :)
<sneep> It's like a user-space (i.e. non-root) command line environment for Android, which allows you to install packages using a standard package manager
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<dionysus70> nice hehe
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<dminuoso> baweaver: what is irb?
<dminuoso> Is that some new functional ruby version?
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<miskatonic> irb is interactive ruby
<miskatonic> it is not a functional thing
<miskatonic> it is not that new, either
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<dminuoso> Oh really
<dminuoso> Maybe I should try it out then.
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<Bish> if a website returns 423 mechanize raises
<Bish> can i still get the body?
<darix> Bish: well check your response object
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<darix> or the exceptions object if it has a page object attached
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<Bish> darix: oh it really has a @page variable
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<darix> Bish: in any of those cases. put a binding.pry in your script and start tinkering
<darix> (e.g. into the rescue clause)
<Bish> darix: yeah that's exactly what i did, i just didn't expect the exception object to include the response
<Bish> errorobject im sorry
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<darix> Bish: just calling inspect or errorobject.<tab><tab> would have told you :P
<darix> that's why i love pry so much. interactively developing software^^
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<Natille> Hi everyone :)
<Natille> Is here a good place to ask for bits of help about ruby ? I'm reading about here in "beginning ruby" book
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<Burgestrand> Natille Yes
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<Bish> darix: why inspect ls is much better if u ask me
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<Bish> hm, i listed mechanize without further do in my gemfile, and recently updated
<Bish> i had version 1.0 how did that happen?
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<darix> Bish: maybe it was the only version that worked together with other deps specified in your gem file
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<Bish> darix: how do i find out
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<Bish> ha, that dude did write pry, didn't he?
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<darix> Bish: who?
<Bish> he just left
<Bish> i went to this github some minutes ago
<Bish> and was like " i dont know that dude from #ruby"
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<apeiros> banister
<apeiros> would be the main/original author of pry
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<Burgestrand> Usually a regular here though but I haven't seen them that often as of recent
<Burgestrand> To be fair I could say the same thing about me so that's probably some bias :d
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<dminuoso> gem authors are just people
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<dminuoso> Or monkeys considering the Infinite-Monkey-Theorem.
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<Burgestrand> banisterfiend you still live in europe?
<darix> dminuoso: biology suggests we are all monkeys
<apeiros> dminuoso: we humans are the monkeys in a larger scale experiment by some xenos
<apeiros> they want to know how many billion years it takes for us to build our own universe simulator
<apeiros> what the xenos don't know - they themselves are just a simulation too
<dminuoso> So we're just the IMT simulator?
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<darix> jumping around in the bundler code base is no fun. all i want is a simple method that parses the gemfile and gives me the list of all deps.
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<Burgestrand> !
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<Burgestrand> I did this not too long ago, I'll see if I can find it
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<darix> Burgestrand: writing an universe simulator?
<Burgestrand> darix you're running it already ;)
<Burgestrand> More on the lines of iterating through the list of all gems and their dependencies, I did it to extract all the license information of all gems I was using
<darix> Burgestrand: I want to make it easier to package rails apps as rpm
<darix> so write a script that generates rpm buildrequires from a gemfile
<darix> and next step is than write a generator that does requires from gemfile.lock
<darix> but that part is easier
<banisterfiend> Burgestrand yep i'm in netherlands, why?
<Burgestrand> darix I can't find it anyway :)
<darix> Burgestrand: tststs
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<Burgestrand> banisterfiend mainly curious, I was thinking yesterday that I should go to nz some time and thought of you
<Burgestrand> (not the coming year though)
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<Burgestrand> darix now that I think of it was probably for cocoapods and not rubygems/bundler, derp :(
<darix> Burgestrand: i will find it
<darix> at some point
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<darix> Bundle.setup looks promisising
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<darix> Burgestrand: Bundler::Definition.build('Gemfile', 'Gemfile.locker', false)
<Burgestrand> darix Sweet!
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<Bish> so you're that banister dude?
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<Burgestrand> banisterfiend
<Bish> well thanks for pry then!
<Bish> saved me many many hours
<Burgestrand> You should thank him the next time he moves the laptop mouse and comes back in, disappeared again
<Burgestrand> (I'm not banisterfiend)
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<darix> Burgestrand: but one would expect that bd=Bundler::Definition.build('Gemfile', 'Gemfile.locker', false) ; bd.specs_for([:assets]) wouldnt complain about missing gems from the test groups
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<Burgestrand> darix Yeah there's something funky going on there, it crashed my interpreter :D
<Burgestrand> (because of missing gems)
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<Bish> Burgestrand: how do you know it's a laptop mouse
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<Burgestrand> Bish because if it's a real mouse then we're back in the territory of an army of monkeys doing coding again
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<Bish> i don't follow, why doesn't he have a desktop pc
<Burgestrand> Bish sorry, it's a bit late in the day so I'm just playing around, I don't know his setup other than his IRC claims his MacBook went to sleep (i.e. likely to be laptop), personally my workstation is a laptop with attached screen :)
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<Bish> uhh sherlock holmes
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<Bish> wee~
<Flabbergazta> where can I find help for capybara related stuff?
<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: here and rails probably. is this rails related?
<Flabbergazta> own
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<Flabbergazta> err wrong channel, I guess its more related to rails
<Flabbergazta> I am using page object models with capybara, how would I go about trying to fill in a text field? page.element.? ?
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<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: rspec?
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<Flabbergazta> yes dminuoso
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<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: just plain fill_in, it's documented https://github.com/teamcapybara/capybara
<Flabbergazta> dminuoso: flll_in 'id' :with works, but I was looking for something more like page.element.fill_in maybe?
<Flabbergazta> that doesn't work though
<daveomcd> given the following object. How can I get the index of the initial array (this example: 3), where the string "OH" occurs? positions = [["QB"],["WR","WO"],["TE"],["RB","OH","TB"],["FB"],["OC"],["OG"],["OT"]]
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<Flabbergazta> I dont want string constants in my rspec
<Bish> >> [["QB"],["WR","WO"],["TE"],["RB","OH","TB"],["FB"],["OC"],["OG"],["OT"]].find_index { |arr| arr.find("OH") }
<ruby[bot]> Bish: # => 0 (https://eval.in/910012)
<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: You have them anyway,.
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<Bish> that's not correct
<Bish> >> [["QB"],["WR","WO"],["TE"],["RB","OH","TB"],["FB"],["OC"],["OG"],["OT"]].find_index { |arr| arr.find{|x| x == "OH"} }
<ruby[bot]> Bish: # => 3 (https://eval.in/910013)
<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: You somehow need to identify that element, and that identification will usually be a string.
<daveomcd> Thanks Bish I'll try that
<Bish> that's correct.
<dminuoso> Flabbergazta: but fill_in(a, b) is basically shorthand for find(a).set(b) I think.
<Bish> >> [["QB"],["WR","WO"],["TE"],["RB","OH","TB"],["FB"],["OC"],["OG"],["OT"]].find_index { |arr| arr.include?("OH") }
<ruby[bot]> Bish: # => 3 (https://eval.in/910014)
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<Bish> i think this one is more readable
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<dminuoso> findIndex(any(eq("OH")), arr)
<Bish> there goes the lense guy again
<dminuoso> No lenses this time!
<Bish> dminuoso: we're in ruby here tho, what is findIndex what's eq?
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<dminuoso> findIndex :: (a → Boolean) → [a] → Integer
<Bish> :D
<dminuoso> eq :: a → b → Boolean
<Bish> are you using neo keyboard layout?
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<dminuoso> Nope.
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<Bish> how do you make fancy arrows
<dminuoso> Custom compose keys.
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<Bish> i see
<Bish> try neo, it's awesome
<Bish> for stuff like that
<Bish> ΨΘΨΘ∈Π∪⇒ℕℕ⇔⇒↦↦
<dminuoso> ℂ just costs me: right-alt, |, C
<dminuoso> I very much like US keyboard.
<Bish> there is neo with us keyboard layout, just the "layers" added
<Bish> it doesn't break your fingers when doing {}()<>[]
<Bish> needs some getting used to it, but then it's nice, actually learned 10-finger-typing with that after 15+ years
<dminuoso> What do you do for say ⇒ ?
<Bish> shift+<(or whatever is next to z(to the left)) ⇒
<Bish> shift lock*
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<Bish> you have 5 layers on your keyboard which you can reach with modifiers, so you can basicially can type everything + numbers with only the alphabet
<Bish> https://www.neo-layout.org/ see "Die 6 Ebenen" doesn't need a translation when you have the "ebenen"
<Bish> you also don't have to reach for delete or backspace
<Bish> or return, or tab
<dminuoso> why not?
<Bish> layer 4, has uparrow,downarrow,left,right and next around it are
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<Bish> page up, page down, full left, full right, backspace, delete, tab return
<Bish> too bad you americans have a letter there
<dminuoso> Im not American.
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<Bish> do you have an physical us keyboard? or just the mapping
<miskatonic> just the mapping
<dminuoso> My macbook has a german keyboard, while my desktop has physical us keyboard.
<Bish> uhm,
<Bish> so neo would be perfect, there is neo qwertz
<dminuoso> But both have both mappings (I just use US primarily, switching to German only for typing Umlaute at times)
<dminuoso> Why would I use qwertz?
<Bish> because why else would you like us?
<dminuoso> My muscle memory is trained for US layout.
<dminuoso> []{}<>
<dminuoso> is why
<Bish> well, it took a week for me to get used to {}()><[] on neo
<Bish> worth every second
<miskatonic> i never use the native german mapping
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<Bish> yeah it's stupid, especially {} made me sad
<dminuoso> nothing about qwerty makes sense
<dminuoso> at least not in this and the past century
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<Bish> yeah it's one of those things which "always been that way"
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<miskatonic> how about dvorak?
<Bish> didn't try, didnt care, i wanted a better way to reach the special characters
<Bish> i even kept qwertz because learning neo took me to long
<Bish> so i have neo-qwertz
<Bish> also it really fucks you up, when going to a coworkers pc
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<dminuoso> It fucks them up more if they use yours.
<dminuoso> Its better than any encryption or password.
<dminuoso> It guarantees they cant do jack shit with your computer.
<Bish> as i said ^^ normal chars are qwertz
<dminuoso> Oh so you didnt go all-in?
<Bish> yes, that was crazy, i tried
<Bish> that would cost a lot of time
<Bish> multiple weeks
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<Bish> im happy i can type with 10 fingers now, without moving my hand
<Bish> never seemed to be able to do that maybe it was because of {}()
<dminuoso> Bish: So what about things like " ?
<dminuoso> Having ' and " on the same key is useful
<dminuoso> Do you not use that key and use layers 2 and 3 instead?
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<Bish> ' is caps lock and ","
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<Bish> " is caps lock and "," i mean
<Bish> ' is caps lock + "."
<Bish> i think that is special for neo_qwertz
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<Bish> but it is so much easier writing complicated statements with that
<Bish> well, FEIERABEND, cya
<dminuoso> Look at that. He is German.
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<Bish> wie das duftet kräftig deftig würzig gut
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<Bish> i forgot some comma there
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<bhaak> sounds like he learned his German from commercials
<Bish> just acting german, so i stay anonymous
<Bish> zeh kommunist are after me
<bhaak> ah, an Austrian
<Bish> yes axactly, from sydney
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<bhaak> that's south easterish of Germany. that's all the same ;-)
<Bish> obligatory
<Bish> ostria!!
<dminuoso> 16:57 bhaak | ah, an Austrian
<dminuoso> Ouch.
<dminuoso> Bish: My condolences.
<porfavordama> Hello everyone,
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<Bish> porfavordama: hi, wanna talk about ruby?
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<porfavordama> I am kinda beginner. My question is why do I get different results on this code ? https://ideone.com/UUptdZ
<dminuoso> See. This is a good question.
<Bish> porfavordama: well, you print before the operation, am i mistaking?
<dminuoso> porfavordama: Looks the same to me.
<Bish> at line 11 you print at line 12 you multiply by 2
<porfavordama> Bish, that's true
<Bish> first and last line are the same
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<Bish> move line 11 after 12, maybe that helps understanding
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<Bish> switch it back and forth and stare at it REALLY CLOSELY
<Bish> until it tells you it's secret
<dminuoso> I blame imperative programming.
<Bish> dminuoso: so do i
<dminuoso> In a pure world without side effects this would not have happened!
<Bish> i've been mocked lately for saying the same thing
<porfavordama> Bish, okay lemme try ^^
<Bish> "your code has sideeffects your cpu is getting warm"
<Bish> ...
<dminuoso> Bish: Strictly speaking that's true.
<dminuoso> Bish: CPU temperature is frequently used amongst many other things for entropy.
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<dminuoso> So your code has sideeffects on PRNGs on the system.
<dminuoso> Or any temperature gauges ;o
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<Bish> so you can say the web cryptocoin miners do lessen the security of PRNGs?
<Bish> because they're always maximum
<Bish> ...
<dminuoso> Bish: I suggest you stop using "side-effects" and talk about referential transparency.
<dminuoso> That leaves them with no escape!
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<Bish> don't know that term, whill let it be read to me on the way home
<Bish> the future ~
<porfavordama> Bish: oh that was my fault! Should've thought that it was also multiplying at the first step as well
<porfavordama> Thank you. :)
<Bish> porfavordama: yes ! you got the state BEFORE the calculation, no different result :)
<Bish> you're welcome, KEEP ON RUBYING
<Bish> im out
<dminuoso> Bish: Referential transparency is when you can replace a function call with the value it returns with no change in behavior.
<Bish> oh that wasa quick definition.
<Bish> isn't that an implication of pureness?
<dminuoso> Basically yes.
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<dminuoso> Any function that is referentially transparent may be called "a pure function"
<Bish> thanks for that chat, see you around!
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<ninja247> hi al
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<ninja247> new to ruby
<havenwood> ninja247 welcome
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<ninja247> hi is this better than other slack channels?
<dminuoso> Only if baweaver is making puns.
<ninja247> lulz
<dminuoso> And he's been slacking...
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<skawa> Getting an "An error occurred while installing dbm (0.5.1), and Bundler cannot continue." when using ruby:2.5.0-preview1-slim-stretch ... Details here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6624d1d281ec3cc90a372ac2cf7a9ff0
<skawa> that line in the Gemfile just says gem 'dbm'
<skawa> no version specified
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<baweaver> dminuoso ninja247: If I be slacking the puns be sorely lacking. What's cracking?
<dminuoso> Now it's rhyming? "|
<dminuoso> :|
<ninja247> lulz imma get my own good ones
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<baweaver> To not rhyme would be a crime.
<baweaver> dminuoso: wanna lime?
<baweaver> A haiku makes sense; The verse flows more cleanly here; Would you prefer that?
<skawa> oh its probably missing ndbm.h...
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<noobyNoobyNoo> Hey
<dminuoso> skawa: You have to install development tools first.
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<skawa> dminuoso: define development tools? kernel headers?
<dminuoso> But I guess buildpack-deps has you covered
<dminuoso> skawa: I'd look into the layer and check the mkmf.log
<skawa> dminuoso: i cat it in that log output...
<dminuoso> Ah.
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<dminuoso> skawa: You are lacking the ruby headers.
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<dminuoso> Most likely.
<dminuoso> But..
<dminuoso> Err..
<dminuoso> skawa: can you compile that program using the specified flags from hand?
<skawa> dminuoso: im trying to do this via Dockerfile :C
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<dminuoso> skawa: You probably might want to split that into multiple RUN, and insert a CMD /bin/sh between or something you can look into that layer.
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<dminuoso> skawa: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6624d1d281ec3cc90a372ac2cf7a9ff0#file-gistfile1-txt-L79-L88 try this from hand inside the docker container. Something is failing, but its not showing what.
<dminuoso> (Either the header cant be found, or there's some other compilation error)
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<skawa> dminuoso: i was pulling ruby release with the slim tag... but looking at the dockerfile for the full release
<skawa> so yeah the issue was that those headers weren't being installed
<skawa> cool
<dminuoso> skawa: I'd say its a bug in the sense that you dont get a useful error.
<skawa> i did, though. it listed the header that was missing
<skawa> it*
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<dminuoso> skawa: Where?
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<dminuoso> skawa: Huh.
<skawa> dminuoso: ndbm.h would have been provided here, if i had used the right release tag: https://github.com/docker-library/ruby/blob/0f6af01cc2f8b8d39ea5f2c7e9fb3c413edb93d6/2.5-rc/stretch/Dockerfile#L23
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<darix> normally when you do this: bundle install --local --without="development test heroku no_docker"
<darix> should it really complain about: Could not find gem 'airbrake (~> 4.3.5)' in any of the gem sources listed in your Gemfile.
<darix> which is in a section: group :development, :test do
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<darix> even moving it sections without the 2 group entries makes it fail
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<RickHull> it sounds like the gem source is "global" to the Gemfile, and it's not skipping existence validation for the --without groups
<RickHull> which is kinda sorta reasonable
<RickHull> are there gem source directives that are specific to a group?
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<darix> RickHull: no
<darix> was the file i was testing with. but it is not specific to that
<darix> right now my solution for rpmified rails apps is commenting out the dev+ test section
<darix> but as i ran into the stupid problem again and had some time today, i thought i would ask
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<RickHull> I think there is argument for performing existence validation globally -- it seems that `bundle install` would fail without --without
<darix> RickHull: but should it really? i mean what is this commandline option for if not telling it "eh do bundle install but ignore those sections"
<RickHull> is the complaint a warning or error?
<darix> it writes a proper .bundle/config
<darix> it fails
<darix> after that error
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<darix> i just noticed there is a bundler channel so i will bother them
<RickHull> I think there is a good argument for making global validations warnings, and performing group-based validations
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<RickHull> and/or stop doing global existence validation
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<darix> RickHull: again. bundle install *fails* at the first gem from the dev or test group
<darix> this is not just a warning. it stops.
<RickHull> yeah -- it's annoying, and I think there is a good argument for not doing that
<RickHull> but also, should that Gemfile even have airbrake in there at all?
<RickHull> given the gem source?
<RickHull> or that airbrake version
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<darix> #bundler it is
<darix> RickHull: for dev sure ... but for production ... i dont want it
<darix> less code on the server/container is always good
<RickHull> what I'm getting at is: why is airbrake in there at all?
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<RickHull> if it can't ever be installed using that Gemfile
<RickHull> where would bundler get it in the dev case?
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<darix> RickHull: it could be installed. if i didnt pass --local
<RickHull> ah, ok
<RickHull> i'm not much of a bundler user :)
<RickHull> #bundler it is :)
<RickHull> on this topic -- deploying gems to production targets -- it seems much better to package them (e.g. .tgz) and deploy the package
<RickHull> i.e. should bundler even be involved at deploy time
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<darix> RickHull: i sometimes bump versions in the gemfile to have only 1 version of the gem for N rails apps, instead of having N versions of a gem. reasoning is that many apps have very stale Gemfiles, while they happily work with newer versions. right now my way to regenerate the Gemfile.lock is "comment out dev+test" -> "run bundle exec rails --version" -> voila. why bundle exec over e.g. bundle check ... bundle
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<darix> exec actually gives me *all* names of messing ...
<darix> ... gems unlike bundle check
<RickHull> perhaps bundler is involved in the package creation, but not the deploy
<darix> RickHull: I rpm-ify rails app for the deployment
<darix> but rails insists on Gemfile.lock :)
<RickHull> argh
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<RickHull> how tricky is the rpm creation? I have been involved in some debifying pipelines but didn't build it or dig too deep
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<RickHull> what does rails do with the Gemfile.lock? does it drive some extra config or necessary structure?
<RickHull> why not tar.gz several .gems and just iterate over them with `gem install` ?
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<darix> RickHull: pretty easy
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<RickHull> hm, I suppose `gem install` X wants to satisfy X's dependencies over the network
<RickHull> though I imagine there is a way to tell it a local filesystem source
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<darix> all the gems and needed deps are there
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<craysiii> Is there a preferred websocket client gem?
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<RickHull> craysiii: https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/master/Gemfile#L85 maybe matthewd has an opinion :)
<darix> RickHull: that isnt really released ...
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<darix> craysiii: actioncable uses websocket-driver + websocket-extensions
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<craysiii> Thanks for the suggestions :)
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<RickHull> here's the source repo for websocket-client-simple, released 3 years ago https://github.com/shokai/websocket-client-simple
<RickHull> er, last release Feb 2016
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<darix> RickHull: and matthewd forked it again
<darix> as you can see in the gemfile
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<RickHull> yep! I have no idea if the fork is useful in a general sense or intended for rails
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<Afro> hey guys I'm having issues setting up rbenv on mymac
<Afro> was wondering if anyone could give me a hand
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<havenwood> Afro: what seems to be the trouble?
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<Afro> I keep getting # Load rbenv automatically by appending # the following to ~/.zshrc: eval "$(rbenv init -)" even after I've added the eval line to zshrc profile
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<Afro> when running rbenv init
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<Afro> havenwood: any ideas? I tried few solutions from google but none has worked
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<RickHull> Afro: paste your .zshrc and also, what happens if you execute the eval line directly in your shell?
<RickHull> or just the relevant portions of .zshrc
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<RickHull> what's the output if you run the eval line in your shell? also maybe try it without eval
<RickHull> you can can keep peeling back layers of the eval line
<Afro> nothing happens if I run it directly in the shell
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<Afro> I'm on a Mac btw
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<RickHull> how about just `rbenv init -`
<Afro> if I run with out eval I get this
<Afro> export: not valid in this context: '/usr/local/Cellar/rbenv/1.1.1/libexec/../completions/rbenv.zsh'
<RickHull> i think `rbenv init -` should print a string to STDOUT
<RickHull> presumably something like `export FOO=bar`
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<RickHull> also, is that path valid?
<RickHull> that ends in rbenv.zsh
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<Afro> RickHull: I changed the permission on Cellar directory and nothing seems to work now O.o
<SeepingN> why wouldapermis
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<SeepingN> oops. why would you change permissions on that directory?
<RickHull> yeah ^ and what is the output of `rbenv init -` and is that path valid?
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<Afro> SeepingN: Saw a thread saying sometime it changes permisson by other programs so I allowed write/read
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<Afro> RickHull: I get this when running rbenv init - now https://gist.github.com/anonymous/92d4a612e68136defcf69311b4dfa699
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<RickHull> ok, I'm guessing everything is working fine, or was
<RickHull> what is the problem? i think with that eval line in your .zshrc, it should "work"
<RickHull> the test would be to create a new zsh session and I guess `rbenv`
<RickHull> or `rbenv -h` maybe
<RickHull> I haven't used rbenv in years, but I'm guessing that `rbenv init` in your new zsh session isn't "the test to see if it's working"
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