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<nostalgiccloud> So
<nostalgiccloud> Ruby is slow.
<nostalgiccloud> How can I make ruby faster
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<nostalgiccloud> oh god.
<nostalgiccloud> ruby is pain
<Nilium> Are you done trying to troll the channel yet?
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<nostalgiccloud> Nilium, It's not trolling to acknowledge ruby isn't the fastest language around nor is it the friendliest
<Nilium> I'm taking that as a no.
<nostalgiccloud> If you're going to call everything you dislike / disagree with trolling then you need to sit down and re-assess your thought process
<nostalgiccloud> Right now I'm trying to setup Jekyll
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<nostalgiccloud> I'm coming from the world of PHP and Java, so everything about ruby is different. Things like the RVM
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<Nilium> Do you have a question that isn't pointless baiting?
<nostalgiccloud> Well, I asked how I can make ruby faster but that's just "trolling" and "pointless baiting" according to you
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<Nilium> It is. Your code is as fast as you make it.
<nostalgiccloud> So why should I ask you for help if you're going to attack everything you don't like / disagree with?
<nostalgiccloud> Ruby is as fast as it's interpreter.
<nostalgiccloud> I can optimize my code all day, if the interpreter isn't fast my code wont be fast.
<Nilium> There are multiple implementations of Ruby, so yes, that is true.
<nostalgiccloud> So then it's not pointless baiting / trolling but a real question / concern around the performance of the stock interpreter.
<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, run it in java, join #java, ask to make it faster
<nostalgiccloud> I'm still learning to work with Ruby right now and from what I can find, the RVM is key.
<Nilium> I have serious doubts that you've hit the limits of MRI.
<nostalgiccloud> nofxx, #java is possibly the most toxic channel on all of freenode.
<nofxx> also ask if they can use less than 5gb of ram to run 2 prints
<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, no, ruby in java.. jruby
<nostalgiccloud> nofxx, That actually isn't a bad idea
<nostalgiccloud> Java the language isn't the issue, the JVM is
<nostalgiccloud> But this is going off topic, so to work with ruby I should use the RVM
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<Nilium> Do you mean MRI?
<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, hehe, I think the exact opposite... but yeah, I was joking with the slowness thing, but jruby is pretty solid
<nostalgiccloud> Nilium, RVM to manage the interpreters
<nofxx> you don't need rvm
<Nilium> I'm not sure how rvm fits into this.
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<nofxx> this rvm thing plagued ruby... everything just works, questions here were about ruby... last years, all questions are about rvm
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<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, that has nothing to do with ruby, you need to understand how your bash $PATH works
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<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, and just add gem home to it
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<nofxx> ok, has to do with ruby hehe.. but would be the same for every other lang that has package management
<nostalgiccloud> nofxx, I understand $PATH but I'm so used to things already being in their when working with global packages :S!
<nostalgiccloud> I'm lazy
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<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, you don't fool me... java has a lot of darn $PATh gotchas
<nofxx> not to mention android sdk thing
<nostalgiccloud> don't drag Android SDK into this
<nostalgiccloud> none of us like it.
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<nofxx> ok, just java... got some npm needs in $PATH too
<nofxx> hehe still have a path to maglev...jez
<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, you can hardcode ~/.gem/ruby/[version]/bin
<nofxx> I use this, dunno if there's a better option :
<nofxx> export GEM_HOME=$(ruby -rubygems -e "puts Gem.user_dir")
<nofxx> but you need to add /bin to that ^
<nofxx> export PATH="$GEM_HOME/bin:..........
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<nostalgiccloud> nofxx, not gonna lie I gave up setting up Ruby and RVM and Jekyll
<nostalgiccloud> Been playing with Pelican
<nostalgiccloud> The syntax is similar to reddit
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<nostalgiccloud> ruby is neat though
<nostalgiccloud> I did start learning it years ago but never followed through in favor of PHP
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<Radar> > RVM
<Radar> Well there's your problem
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<nostalgiccloud> eh
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<nofxx> nostalgiccloud, next time, forget rvm =D
<nostalgiccloud> :D
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<konsolebox> is there another native method to converting string to hex besides unpack('H*')?
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<dminuoso> What does "converting string to hex" exactly mean?
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<konsolebox> "//" -> "2f2f"
<konsolebox> example ^
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<dminuoso> konsolebox: unpack is the shortest way
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<dminuoso> konsolebox: You could also use String#codepoints and Kernel#sprintf if you wanted fine control
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<konsolebox> dminuoso: yes, but i'm looking for an internal method that any implementation of a "ruby" method may expose
<konsolebox> digest.c has hexencode_str_new, but it's static.
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<konsolebox> now it leads me to asking, what exactly are the parts of ruby that are "public domain"?
<konsolebox> digest.c is copyrighted by Yukihiro Matsumoto and Akinori MUSHA
<konsolebox> reading LEGAL i guess there's just a few, and digest.c doesn't look like one of them
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<GorillaApe> hi
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<GorillaApe> This code on *bsd and osx consumes memory without limit.. Left it for one day and got 250mb + kernel panik. On ubuntu it seems that it stops at 18mb.
<ruby[bot]> GorillaApe: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/e567ea5e71202132963dc83409137de5
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<careta> hey guys
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<careta> how can I simulate an assembly instruction that adds two 64 bit numbers?
<careta> I need to add them and ignore any carry
<careta> so basically add them and cut off the result to 64 bit
<careta> which might mean an overflow
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<dminuoso> careta: That is called modular addition by the way.
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<dminuoso> I still hate that people call it overflow, because a register cant overflow.
<dminuoso> And the post just uses the fact that a + b (mod n) is the same as (a + b) (mod n)
<dminuoso> careta: For sufficiently large numbers that is extremely inefficient by the way.
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<careta> dminuoso, I'm emulating functionality, so efficiency is not a problem
<careta> I found that the best way (in C) is to add them as separate 32 bit numbers and then just add the carry
<careta> although to be honest I don't really grasp how the carry works very well, need to read up on it
<dminuoso> "add the carry" ?
<herwin> I think the best way in C is to add them as 64-bit integers
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<travisgrib> hi guys, does anyone here have experience of sinatra apps?
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<travisgrib> specifically, with redirects in sinatra apps
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<adam12> travisgrib: Is there a specific problem you're trying to solve?
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<travisgrib> adam12: i want to redirect requests from an old api to a new api. but i need to update the request body before forwarding it to the new api. i can use “redirect” to call the new api from the old, but i don’t know how to update the request body
<adam12> What do you mean, request body?
<adam12> Like post data?
<travisgrib> adam12: yes
<adam12> I don't think that's even possible? Redirect's can be GET's only, IIRC
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<adam12> If this wasn't an API, you might be able to fake it with a pre-filled HTML form that auto-submits itself
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<adam12> If this is low-traffic, maybe you can just make the new request and proxy the data back.
<aleph_> So, I'm using nokogiri, just curious what would be the way to select text from the alt tag inside a <a> tag.
<aleph_> Incidentally, is nokogiri still good or is there something better to use?
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<travisgrib> adam12: but how would i call the new api with the new request?
<adam12> aleph_: nokogiri is fine but Oga is nice too, and no dependency on libxml
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<adam12> aleph_: I can never remember nokogiri syntax, but could you do something like your_tag_handle.attr("alt").value ?
<aleph_> Checking.
<adam12> travisgrib: How many URLs are you changing? And can this not be done at the client?
<adam12> travisgrib: Are you using a reverse proxy like nginx?
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<Rubiano001> Hello/Salve
<adam12> Rubiano001: o/
<aleph_> adam12: Tried, didn't work. Bollocks.
<adam12> aleph_: You know of pry?
<aleph_> I do not.
<aleph_> What is it?
<adam12> aleph_: Install pry gem
<adam12> aleph_: It's a REPL, but has a bunch of nice features.
<aleph_> Neat. Thanks.
<adam12> aleph_: Once you install pry dependency, once you get the handle for that <a> tag, require "pry"; binding.pry
<Rubiano001> I won't see anything like this
<adam12> aleph_: That will drop you into the repl, then you can use `ls`, and `cd` to poke around. I'd start by `ls` the variable that stores your <a> tag and see if anything looks juicy.
<Rubiano001> don't put entire script in the begin/rescue block please
<adam12> Rubiano001: That's a classic way of debugging CGI scripts, FYI
<adam12> Rubiano001: But not normally used in production.
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<adam12> aleph_: Pry is awesome. Spend some time with it.
<Rubiano001> but you can't understand what is the error that cause the rescue block to be executed
<adam12> Rubiano001: I'm not saying your example is great, but a giant begin/rescue block that outputs exception to stdout is very common.
<aleph_> Will do. Just different enough from python to stumble me up. :P
<Rubiano001> ah
<adam12> aleph_: Yeah - I'm not even sure python has a repl/debugger like pry.
<aleph_> Eh, there are some close to it.
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<adam12> yorickpeterse: Thanks for oga, in case I've never said it before.
<aleph_> adam12: Is there any better docs out there for nokogiri? Ones I've found have sucked a big one.
<adam12> aleph_: I don't think so :\ I've run into that before too.
<adam12> aleph_: You might have to read the test/specs? Sometimes they give away more clues.
<adam12> aleph_: What are you looking to do - big picture? (outside of parsing html). Are you scraping? Is this a one-off?
<aleph_> Aye. Bollocks. I prefer docs to specs. Might just try oga first.
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<adam12> aleph_: Yeah, that might be a better idea :)
<aleph_> adam12: One off for now kinda, site wide scraping and conversion into ebook. Blog posts and comments.
<aleph_> This is me just trying to get the usernames per comments. :P
<adam12> aleph_: Gotcha. I'd definitely give oga a go.
<aleph_> Aye.
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<aleph_> adam12: Came out wonky, but this is what I'm parsing. https://bpaste.net/show/8d0b083b2302
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<adam12> aleph_: I only see one div?
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<aleph_> Scroll right. >_>
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<aleph_> Gotta find a new paste service.
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<aleph_> Hmm, welp my method isn't working so far.
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<adam12> oh lol. I see it
<adam12> a tag's don't normally have alt attrs.
<adam12> I see your img tags do tho
<aleph_> Yeah my naive approach ain't working. :p
<aleph_> Aye.
<aleph_> Oh...
* aleph_ sighs
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<adam12> aleph_: do you care about the a tag?
<aleph_> Nyet
<adam12> aleph_: Very naive solution tho. You'll need to tweak it.
<aleph_> Aye. My question is, can I nest that inaide say .css('.user-pic').each do |m|
<adam12> Likely.
<aleph_> Because that's what I'm trying, and I'm getting no output.
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<aleph_> Since I have some several hundred odd comments per blog, and I'd like to make sure I grab those and not say random images on the blog.
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<adam12> Could likely even simplify it into one css selector, '.user-pic img[alt]'
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<aleph_> adam12: Figured out my error. I was only ending the inner anon function.... >_>
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<adam12> aleph_: lol.
<aleph_> >_> :P
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<adam12> whitespace significant, ruby is not
<aleph_> Yeah.
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<yorickpeterse> adam12: no problem, glad you enjoy using it
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* Papierkorb cleans off some dust
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<logicscience> dusting?
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<thuryn> i'm having regex reading issues. what does this do?
<thuryn> foo =~ /(^|\/)#{some_var}$/
<thuryn> the $ is the "end of string" anchor.
<thuryn> does (^|\/) mean to match if the value of #{some_var} appears after the last / OR at the beginning of foo?
<havenwood> thuryn: $ is either end of line or end of string
<havenwood> thuryn: \z is end of string
<havenwood> thuryn: the parens are a capture group
<havenwood> thuryn: ^ is beginning of a line or string
<havenwood> thuryn: \A is beginning of a string
<havenwood> thuryn: \/ is an escaped /
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<havenwood> thuryn: | is alternation, thing on left or thing on right
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<havenwood> thuryn: I gather you know interpolation? That should cover the bases.
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<havenwood> &ri Regexp
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<havenwood> thuryn: I take it the capture group isn't used? You could probably improve on that part.
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<logicscience> i'd like a free copy of EU GDPR – A Pocket Guide ... what is the community opinion of this desire?
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<havenwood> logicscience: Is it Ruby-related?
<havenwood> logicscience: Just load it onto your watch: http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/reform/files/regulation_oj_en.pdf
<havenwood> ?offtopic
<ruby[bot]> this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
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