havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.4.1, 2.3.4 & 2.2.7: https://www.ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text to: https://gist.github.com || Rails questions? Ask in: #RubyOnRails || Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby || Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ
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<funny> What's framework
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<arahael> funny: Frameworks tend to hold things together.
<arahael> funny: In the context of programming, they generally do this by imposing or encouraging some sort of structure to your project.
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<santoxxcc> Hellou
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<santoxxcc> Hi :3
<santoxxcc> How is everybody?
<santoxxcc> damn it
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<santoxxcc> cowsay Hello?
<santoxxcc> :v
<santoxxcc> :(
<havenwood> santoxxcc: hi
<santoxxcc> hi
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<santoxxcc> how are you?
<havenwood> all is well
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<santoxxcc> glad to hear that
<santoxxcc> matz joins this chat sometimes?
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<havenwood> he used to i think. there are other ruby core around. you might find matz in the mruby gitter.
<santoxxcc> then i'll check there
<santoxxcc> but i think i'm not prepared to meet him yet
<santoxxcc> i need to learn more
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<santoxxcc> you think i'm over reacting?
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<santoxxcc> yeah i'm writing too much :s
<eljimmy> salut
<santoxxcc> holas
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<eljimmy> what's the hot topic tonight?
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<santoxxcc> trump?
<santoxxcc> or maybe some kardashian stuff
<santoxxcc> pick one
<havenwood> ?offtopic
<ruby[bot]> this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related problems. Thanks!
<santoxxcc> sorry
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<eam> aww, he didn't move it
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<santoxxcc> how would you guys create an item class for a dungeon text-based game with ruby?
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<eljimmy> that'd be a fun project.
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<foswiki_irc9> Hi ruby!
<foswiki_irc9> How does IRC work?
* foswiki_irc9 waves
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<PorcoRex> Good evening.
<foswiki_irc9> hi
<foswiki_irc9> this is the first time I've used IRC successfully
<foswiki_irc9> How does it work?
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<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: This is it!
<foswiki_irc9> So it's some protocol, like http and ftp?
<foswiki_irc9> What channels should i hang out on?
<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: What languages and frameworks are you interested in?
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<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: #ruby-offtopic for non-Ruby stuff
<foswiki_irc9> Cool -- will switch over
<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: #RubyOnRails is Rails-specific
<havenwood> #rubygems, #ruby-pro, etc
<foswiki_irc9> Do people ask questions here? Or is it ruby fans? or is it sharing projects?
<foswiki_irc9> I dont know the etiquette very well (of any IRC, really)
<havenwood> All of the above.
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<havenwood> Ask Ruby questions, get code review, share gems or apps you create, share code snippets, etc.
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<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: People often use gist.github.com to share one or more Ruby files.
<havenwood> ?gist
<ruby[bot]> https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
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<foswiki_irc9> Wow, this is dope! Will look around the different channels and post as I have stuff to contribute!
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<foswiki_irc9> Do I make an account right now? I'm using https://foswiki.org/Community/InternetRelayChat#Connecting_from_an_IRC_client at the moment
<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: Welcome!
<foswiki_irc9> Is there a concept of an account?
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<foswiki_irc9> like `havenwood`
<havenwood> ?register
<ruby[bot]> you need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
<foswiki_irc9> ?register
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<PorcoRex> foswiki_irc9, also ask for a cloack. Those are cool!
<PorcoRex> cloak.
<foswiki_irc9> thanks for the link!
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<foswiki_irc9> I wish I had a good history of IRC and how it works and who's on it
<foswiki_irc9> this is so dope!
<havenwood> foswiki_irc9: https://daniel.haxx.se/irchistory.html
<PorcoRex> It's like a child discovering a record player for the very first time.
<PorcoRex> :)
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<foswiki_irc9> The first time I played with a record player I immediately broke the needle. Hope I don't do that here :X
<PorcoRex> foswiki_irc9, don't worry. IRC is true and tested. Enjoy your stay!
<foswiki_irc9> Ok -- last question. What keeps you coming back to IRC? why this vs any other messaging tool?
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<PorcoRex> For me it's less faces, but I'm only speaking for myself.
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<havenwood> Lots of folk here use Gitter, Slack, Campfire, or whatever else as well. IRC has a variety of wins.
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<havenwood> Terminal clients, easy protocol to write client for or write bots for, bouncers like znc, mosh, sasl tor, etc.
<havenwood> Clients can be embedded in a web browser so folk can stop by.
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<havenwood> I'm sure other reasons.
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<foswiki_irc9> ok, so this is the original internet messaging tool
<foswiki_irc9> clean, simple, and hackable (in a good way)
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<foswiki_irc9> Thank you havenwood and PorcoRex I'm going to keep reading and learning! See you around!
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<funny> arahael: ho
<funny> I am back
<funny> Holding things together?
<funny> Give me example please
<funny> Who use language?
<funny> Who use or learn framework?
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<funny> And who or learn both?
<funny> Who use or learn both? Typo
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<latemus> is a module a ruby library
<latemus> err, is a module the ruby equivalent of a library
<PorcoRex> latemus, no. A gem is the equivalent of a library.
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<latemus> PorcoRex: ah. thank you
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<dionysus69> I remember this piece of code produces 3 digit number once, but it is supposed to produce 4 all the time rand(0000..9999)
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<dionysus69> rand(0000..9999).to_s.rjust(4, "0")
<dionysus69> this I mean
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<zautomata> how to make autoreload with puma?
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<apeiros> dionysus69: no, that code will always generate 4 digits
<apeiros> dionysus69: also three zeros in 0000 are superfluous
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<apeiros> note though, if you convert it back to an integer, leading zeros will - of course - disappear again.
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<apeiros> great timing…
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<humanBird> anyone know why gem install doesn't install ?
<humanBird> i keep getting the can't load something errors
<havenwood> humanBird: So to catchup from #rubyonrails, you've installed Ruby 2.3.4 with RVM. You've confirmed that RVM Ruby and Gem binaries are in your PATH. (Are they first in your PATH?) You're running a script x.rb after running `gem install watir`. The script has `require 'watir'` and it's erroring that watir can't be found.
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<havenwood> Is there a Gemfile?
<humanBird> there is a gemfile with no watir in it
<havenwood> There lies your problem.
<humanBird> oh. gem install does not put things into there?
<havenwood> Nope
<humanBird> i guess this is different from node.... npm install still allows you to use the package you installed at least
<humanBird> since it's been installed.
<humanBird> how do i get it in the gem file?
<havenwood> RVM automagically limits your gem to the Gemfile when one is present.
<humanBird> hrm. what do i need to put in the gem file?
<havenwood> humanBird: gem 'watir'
<havenwood> humanBird: Then run: bundle
<havenwood> Or you can turn off this RVM-specific feature.
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<havenwood> Then you'd have to prefix `bundle exec` to commands to limit gems to the Gemfile if you disable the RVM feature.
<humanBird> gem 'watir' ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::CommandLineError) Unknown command watir
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<havenwood> humanBird: export NOEXEC_DISABLE=1
<havenwood> humanBird: Gist your Gemfile.
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<humanBird> http://pasteall.org/447556 that was my gemfile
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<riceandbeans> I have a variable foo that has a string value, I then have a later line that says foo ||= "bar#{count}" for times when the regex didn't work and I'm going to adjust the regex later but I want to get most of it out of the way, but the ||= with puts statements shows that it overrides the value every single time, what would cause that?
<humanBird> when you call put and get in rspec, you are automagically given some hidden variables like response?
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<apeiros> riceandbeans: nothing would cause that, so I'd say your analysis is wrong
<apeiros> ||= only assigns to foo if it's false or nil
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<apeiros> if you gist your code, input, expected output and actual output, I may be able to make a more helpful statement.
<riceandbeans> apeiros: I have puts statements, I'm using mechanize but some things fail, so I have at the end a placeholder using ||= but it's auto assigning it every time
<apeiros> you're just repeating what you said before. shall I too just repeat what I already said?
<apeiros> also, don't use puts for debugging, use p
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<riceandbeans> what's the difference?
<apeiros> puts calls to_s on the values passed to it, p calls inspect
<apeiros> I'll go to bed soon. do you plan on gisting your code or not?
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<riceandbeans> apeiros: one sec
<riceandbeans> about to gist
<riceandbeans> apeiros: ^
<apeiros> if company.ceo_name = nil
<apeiros> spot the error…
<riceandbeans> ignore that, that's not even being executed
<riceandbeans> err
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<apeiros> if that's not executed, none of your code is and your gist is worthless…
<apeiros> so yeah, let me say I doubt that claim :)
<riceandbeans> god damn it, forgot a =
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<apeiros> yupp
<riceandbeans> :(
<riceandbeans> I hate when I botch one character while tired and screw everything up
<apeiros> that's life
<apeiros> at least this is an easy fixable fuckup
<riceandbeans> :P yeah, thanks, s/=/== and like magic it actually works as it's supposed to
<apeiros> well then, I'm off. n8
<apeiros> you should consider that too, if you're tired enough to miss a missing = ;-p
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<market> Need bash uniq but without sort
<comet23> hello, i was wondering where i could find a list of all the conventions when i
<comet23> 'm reading ruby code
<comet23> like # means method and so on
<comet23> where can i find a list that will tell me what #method means and other things that are written about ruby
<elomatreb> As in documentation for the methods?
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