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<jaffejoe> hi guys i want to be able to update multiple rows in the database without the use of a form, is that possible?
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<allisio> "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
<jaffejoe> ok let me try asking a different way
<jaffejoe> so i have an array of event objects
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<jaffejoe> and i want to change the the current start and end time of each event based some conditions
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<jaffejoe> my understanding is you can't use the update action without a form? I don't need the user to update the event times themselves with a form
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<apeiros> you can do whatever you want
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<apeiros> also, it seems you're talking about rails
<apeiros> and rails is over in #rubyonrails
<jaffejoe> oh ok thx, i will head over there
<apeiros> a form is just one way to perform an http post or put request
<apeiros> otherwise it's unrelated
<apeiros> and doing side effects only on post/put/delete/patch requests is a convention (though, you should follow that one)
<apeiros> another way to perform an http post/put/delete/patch request is through JS
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<jaffejoe> which is 'that' when you say though you should follow that one
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<apeiros> the convention of only using those http verbs when doing side effects
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<jaffejoe> ahh i see
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<LACampbell> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/47a8b1e42f8d9e54890783f95c888a79 why is this returning an empty string and not "hello"? not sure why "contents" isn't bound
<allisio> LACampbell: #local_variable_set can't be used to introduce new locals.
<allisio> It can only modify existing ones or add new ones to a new Binding.
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<LACampbell> allisio: ah right. so is there anything I can do inside of render to keep the interface the same?
<allisio> LACampbell: Probably. :P
<volty> try passing that binding of the calling context
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<LACampbell> but "contents" is just a key in a hashtable, not a local variable
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<LACampbell> I think my only option is to create throw away class inside render, and do it that way.
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<LACampbell> why the library designers decided people really wanted to mess around with bindings when doing stuff like this is beyond me
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<volty> that must be for advanced purposes
<volty> I need time to realize those bindings for erb, but I do pass bindings in my tracing (debugging) routines. You'll get it when you'll need it.
<volty> you probably need something far less trivial
<volty> s/less/more/
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<LACampbell> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/babe911728e2bbf455acbd00d1446bc8 this hack works and I don't care what anyone says
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<mwlang> I’m looking at Jbuilder’s code and saw that instead of doing “yield” or instance_eval(&block), they’re calling “&::Proc.new”
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<mwlang> is that the same thing or something slightly different going on?
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<allisio> mwlang: Proc.new and Kernel#proc, when called without a block, will instead implicitly use the one passed to the method.
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<allisio> >> def foo; proc.call; end; foo { 42 }
<ruby[bot]> allisio: # => 42 (https://eval.in/748167)
<mwlang> so is &::Proc.new the same as “yield”?
<mwlang> or maybe the better question is why &::Proc.new instead of yield?
<matthewd> mwlang: It's the same as &block
<matthewd> .. only without putting &block in the argument list
<mwlang> Ah-ha! now that actually makes more sense.
<matthewd> The biggest advantage is it's more opaque for a reader ;)
<mwlang> So I guess it’s a way to “get at” &block when it’s not explicitly named.
<matthewd> The actual advantage is that the proc doesn't get constructed until you decide you need it
<allisio> Whereas `yield` prevents that Proc being created at all.
<mwlang> I see.
<matthewd> Yeah: `Proc.new` is to `yield`, as `block` is to `block.call`
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<mwlang> one thing I was toying with was instance_eval(&block) as a way to yield to a given block and have the instance variables of the caller in scope.
<allisio> That is indeed a major use case for that method.
<mwlang> is there a “better” way to do this or am I doing it the right way?
<allisio> You're good.
<mwlang> awesome.
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<allisio> mwlang: The instance variables of the *receiver*, just to be crystal-clear.
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<mwlang> where’s the best place to read up on this in the docs?
<allisio> Metaprogramming Ruby. ^_^
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<mwlang> allisio: thanks. looks like a good book.
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<allisio> mwlang: It's excellent.
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<mwlang> I’ve skipped over this one a couple of times but it looks like I’m at the right place now to actually appreciate it.
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<allisio> That gives me warm fuzzies.
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<siaw23> hi i need some help. I’m getting “undefined method `key' for "Ac0YReUUnidrnR1uGzpgQ":String (NoMethodError)” in this file https://gist.github.com/siaw23/bd7903d16d19c973b7589d8cf30fd2c1
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<siaw23> that String “"Ac0YReUUnidrnR1uGzpgQ” is actually a constant from the keys.rb file but somehow it’s calling a private #key and i have no idea why
<siaw23> it didn’t do that a year ago. and i think i was using another version of oauth. how do i get rid of this?
<siaw23> PS: keys are fake…
<allisio> siaw23: That method apparently expects a Hash where you're passing a String.
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<siaw23> allisio: i tried doing request.oauth! http, { :consumer_key => "eUAc0YRUnidrnR1uGzpgQ"}, {:access_token => "45018198-tee70pZddMLBGKoYCRULtzU3yL34WWiNYqinrr5Pb"}
<siaw23> allisio: i’m getting /Users/siaw23/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.3.0/gems/oauth-0.5.1/lib/oauth/client/helper.rb:33:in `key': wrong number of arguments (given 0, expected 1) (ArgumentError)
<allisio> siaw23: Well, never mind, then; it's probably expecting a domain object.
<allisio> An instance of OAuth::Consumer, if the docs are to be believed.
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<siaw23> allisio: any idea how i can feed it my keys?
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<bigbadman> is python easier to learn than ruby?
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<bigbadman> is anyone here?
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<bigbadman> which takes more time to learn , ruby or python , for a total beginner?
<go|dfish> bigbadman: depends on the person
<bigbadman> no for the same person, which has more syntax and things to learn, and harder, relatively , on an average
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<go|dfish> well, someone may find python easier, someone may find ruby easier
<elomatreb> Just pick one, learning to *program* is independent of learning a programming language
<nofxxx> what elomatreb said just summarized, but ruby is by far better to learn, two simple facts: kiss and least surprise
<nofxxx> bigbadman, ^
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<bigbadman> what do you mean by keep it simple?
<apeiros> >> "Which one is easier to learn, ruby or python? Obviously it's #{rand > 0.5 ? 'Ruby' : 'Python'}."
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => "Which one is easier to learn, ruby or python? Obviously it's Ruby." (https://eval.in/748182)
<bigbadman> you mean barebones or what nofxxx simple things are hard to leasrn, as machine language is too simple ;)
<apeiros> bigbadman: ^ there is your answer. fair and square. obviously it's ruby.
<elomatreb> apeiros: Nice, first try
<matthewd> apeiros: hah, and that was even biased to Python :P
<nofxxx> the universe has just spoken, what could I add?
<bigbadman> complex is better than simple is the motto of python, but what does simple mean here in this context, it can mean "anything"
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<elomatreb> I'm not sure how I feel about saying Ruby is simpler than python, seeing how common complicated metaprogramming is in Ruby
<apeiros> bigbadman: seriously though, the difference between learning ruby and python is rather small
<matthewd> bigbadman: You asked a similarly vague question.. it seems unreasonable to complain about a lack of precision in the answer
<bigbadman> apeiros: but the ruby site said that it has more syntax than python? I am confused
<apeiros> o0
<apeiros> I'd have said ruby has less syntax than python. but I never counted…
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<bigbadman> the difference is small, but which is more difficult for a beginner
<matthewd> bigbadman: Starting.
<apeiros> bigbadman: hard to say. anybody who learns both is no longer a beginner at learning the other.
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<nofxxx> jez, how much talk and it's so simple... which you prefer bigbadman: a red beautiful and precious gem or a ugly green sneaky thing?
<nofxxx> choose tech by logo always works
<nofxxx> exception being GNU/linux stuff of course...
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<marchelzo> hello
<marchelzo> ruby family
<marchelzo> my friends
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<marchelzo> how are you folks doing today?
<marchelzo> folks.
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<Mutter> L
<marchelzo> M
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<apeiros> this folk is fine
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<apeiros> slightly pissed about horizon zero dawn being PS4 exclusive :<
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<marchelzo> glad you are doing ok apeiros
<apeiros> and how're you?
<marchelzo> i'm doing well, thanks ^_^
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<marchelzo> folks
<marchelzo> don't let me down
<marchelzo> i need a sane irc library for ruby
<apeiros> cinch
<marchelzo> it doesn't look very sane, if i'm being honest
<bougyman> how is it not sane?
<apeiros> which parts don't look sane?
<bougyman> it's a lot saner than rbot
<marchelzo> you use a class with a mixin to add a command to your bot?
<marchelzo> look at the Hello class in the readme
<marchelzo> why is that a class? what is a Hello object? it doesn't mean anything
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<marchelzo> cinch has a bunch of constants instead of using the numerics that are used in the rfc? that's supposed to be helpful?
<apeiros> the Hello class is a plugin
<apeiros> and it's a class because it scales (code structure wise) and it allows you to encapsulate things your plugin does
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<apeiros> and yes, I think names are more meaningful than numbers. cf magic numbers in code.
<apeiros> (or magic strings, since not all irc commands are numbers)
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<marchelzo> now people need to read the cinch documentation instead of just reading the RFCs which are the real definitive source for IRC
<apeiros> you'll a) rarely ever need them and b) it's literally a single search in that file. you make an elephant from a mouse.
<marchelzo> every irc library i have found tries to do way too much
<apeiros> then build your own?
<marchelzo> i was hoping i wouldn't need to
<marchelzo> i just want something that handles the protocol
<apeiros> you don't need to
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<apeiros> but you don't seem happy with what's available
<marchelzo> not something opinionated that tries to be a "framework"
<apeiros> if you want, I can give you the ircsocket part of ruboto/ruby[bot]
<apeiros> it's the underlying/primitive part of the framework
<marchelzo> give me a stream of tokenized messages and a way to write things to the server. i can implement anything else on top of that trivially
<marchelzo> cinch isn't doing you any favors with all this machinery it comes with
<allisio> That's, like, six lines of Ruby.
<apeiros> allisio: sadly not really
<apeiros> only if you do it in a broken way
<allisio> "Perfect is the enemy of good."
<apeiros> broken is not good
<ytti_> s/good/done/
<marchelzo> the only really tricky part is connecting and authenticating, especially if you want to handle SASL and SSL. that's what i'd like the library to take care of. i don't need it to decide the structure of my irc bot
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<marchelzo> thanks folks
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<marchelzo> cinch might be ok after all
<marchelzo> sorry for the negativity
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<kulelu88> Hello all
<kulelu88> how do I debug a "sudo gem install" command? it is not showing anything
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<kulelu88> apologies to anybody that I have inadvertently offended. It seems I am not welcome here. Bye
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<marchelzo> wow
<apeiros> had a chat with them due to 88: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)#In_white_nationalism
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<apeiros> I asked them to change their nick, their preference was to leave. that's up to them.
<apeiros> i.e. their nick is not welcome here.
<marchelzo> lol you can't be serious
<apeiros> I am. I will not have nazi references in here. or do you suggest you want those?
<marchelzo> i suggest that isn't a nazi reference. it's not even remotely close.
<marchelzo> look at all of the other things on that wikipedia page
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<apeiros> it is and it is widely used by nazis to recognize each other. anyway, that topic is at an end here. #ot if you want to pursue.
<marchelzo> maybe he was born in 1988
<rippa> if he was kulelu1488, then I could see it
<apeiros> ?ot
<ruby[bot]> this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related topics. Thanks!
<apeiros> if it had been that it'd have been a kickban.
<marchelzo> forgive me but that is stupid. and i know you're a good person. i didn't expect this sort of nonsense from you
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<apeiros> when I said the topic is over, I meant it. next will be mute. move it to #ruby-offtopic otherwise.
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<go|dfish> wow
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<lumberjack__> Hey guys Im trying to save json to file with File using puts {"key":"value"} but its converting it to a hash, how do I prevent that?
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<apeiros> that'd be because {"key": "value"} isn't json but a hash
<apeiros> puts({"key": "value"}.to_json)
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<bougyman> or puts('{"key": "value"}')
<lumberjack__> ok
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<lumberjack__> bougyman: I was trying to do it that way but my json is in a variable
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<spmd> Hello
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<spmd> hello
<marchelzo> hello
<spmd> sup marchelzo
<marchelzo> not much spmd how are you doing
<spmd> i am fine
<spmd> due to school, couldn't do anything with ruby but now i am back
<spmd> and rusty
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<marchelzo> that's ok
<marchelzo> you'll be back in business before long
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<spmd> that's the plan
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<spmd> lol, good night
<spmd> its 3 in the morning here
<marchelzo> oh
<marchelzo> good night then
<marchelzo> sleep tight
<spmd> see ya
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<marchelzo> ruby folks
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<marchelzo> lets say i make my own collection type
<marchelzo> how do i make it Enumerable
<marchelzo> u feel me?
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<Papierkorb> marchelzo: include Enumerable and implement `#each`
<marchelzo> each
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<marchelzo> Papierkorb: i'll see how that goes and report my findings.
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<allisio> Ain't Ruby grand?
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<marchelzo> it's ok
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<marchelzo> Papierkorb, allisio -- encountering an issue
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<allisio> marchelzo: #initialize is like main().
<Papierkorb> marchelzo: "encountering an issue" is not descriptive. what's the exact error you're getting?
<marchelzo> oops just realized my each implementation is broken
<marchelzo> but the problem right now is an ArgumentError
<Papierkorb> marchelzo: Complete error message please
<marchelzo> to the CircularBuffer constructor i think
<allisio> You can't name your constructor #init.
<allisio> It has to be #initialize.
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<allisio> Just as main() has to be main() in C.
<marchelzo> oh hahahaha
<marchelzo> i forgot the name
<marchelzo> i don't use ruby much
<marchelzo> thanks ^_^
<allisio> Sure.
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<allisio> marchelzo: More grandeur: https://eval.in/748360
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<marchelzo> allisio: why sighs
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<allisio> marchelzo: A laugh.
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<Radar> Does anyone have experience with using Rack::Session::Cookie middlewares to manage multiple cookies from different subdomains?
<Radar> i.e. sub1.mydomain.com and sub2.mydomain.com
<Radar> I want to store/manage different cookies for both of these subdomains from their individual subdomains as well as mydomain.com
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