#ruby on 2016-06-11 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-04-26 14:27 havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: http://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.3.1; 2.2.5; 2.1.9: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on https://gist.github.com || logs @ http://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby/

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00:04 <chris3492> My bundle install fails, how can I specify a build option for a gem and still use bundle? When I try to add it to bundle install it aborts saying: Unknown switches

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00:06 <jhass> chris3492: bundle config build.gemname --options

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00:44 <xikaos> Any cool talks on moving from Ruby to Elixir

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00:51 <shevy> lol

00:51 <shevy> flyby askers

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03:38 <james1241> anyone know why I'm getting the "Unable to start Phusion Passenger: Support binary PassengerAgent not found" error? I followed the instructions and ran the command it says to, but don't see a PassengerAgent binary and it still won't start.

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07:27 <Bmw-01> hellok

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07:31 <Bmw-01> somepady is here ?

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07:55 <al2o3-cr> What a morning to be alive!

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08:06 <sandelius> morning

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08:09 <sandelius> would you put validations in an entity or a repository?

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08:26 <TomyLobo> this question displays a severe lack of context

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10:08 <miqlas-H> Hi Guys

10:08 <miqlas-H> I think i just finished the Haiku Ruby port. The latest one, ofc.

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11:01 <miqlas-H> Umm, guys, i got thisduring compiling ruby: http://termbin.com/yjb3

11:01 <miqlas-H> Any idea, what went wrong?

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11:03 <bruce_lee> \(^_^)/ @all

11:04 <bruce_lee> whats wrong with this one?

11:04 <bruce_lee> load $pwd + "/" + "../../lib_crawler/lib_crawler.rb"

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11:19 <bruce_lee> ^^^ solved it with a weird workaround: https://gist.github.com/bruceLee-kungFu/af478c065481e51c8f5760f570f1d73b

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12:10 <danand> hi all. using rbenv. when i install gems they are not automatically found... I have to manually update with 'rbenv rehash' before I can use any of the newly installed gems. I've looked into this and rbenv _should_ automagically run rbenv rehash for you post install of any gem. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?

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12:13 <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have been trying to find a way to get the ip address of the client when it comes to using TCPServer class

12:13 <naftilos76> Can anyone help?

12:14 <naftilos76> i can connect with the ruby server but i can not get the client's ip address on server side

12:15 <naftilos76> http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.0/libdoc/socket/rdoc/TCPServer.html

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12:56 <bonhoeffer> is there a way to divide all elements of a hash by a constant

12:57 <bonhoeffer> of course there is, sorry, what is an efficient way? myhash.values.each {|v| v/100}

12:58 <bonhoeffer> err .map

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12:59 <apeiros> not aware of anything better

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13:22 <guardian> hello, if I want to refer to a method in a commit message, do I use . or # ??? e.g. Pathname.file? or Pathname#file?

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13:27 <shevy> guardian the latter for instance methods

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13:28 <shevy> let me find a good example on the ruby core docs

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13:28 <shevy> oh yes when you go to http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.1/String.html

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13:29 <shevy> on the left side, at "Methods"

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13:29 <shevy> you can see "::try_convert" and then you can see the method % "#%"

13:29 <guardian> thanks

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14:05 <buck0ff> Hello

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14:07 <buck0ff> Anybody there?

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14:26 <iamvery> Does anyone know anything about the status of the ruby koans? http://www.rubykoans.com/ The page still works, but it seems the Neo github has been cleared out

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14:28 <iamvery> maybe related to https://neo.com/2016/02/18/a-final-post-neo-joins-the-pivotal-family/

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14:35 <jhass> wow that's sad, apeiros ^ shall we upload them to github.com/ruby-community ?

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14:38 <shevy> hmm

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14:40 <shevy> yes!

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14:41 <shevy> http://www.rubykoans.com/#cc

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14:41 <shevy> Oh... Jim Weirich was with NEO?

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14:45 <iamvery> Yeah, he was. I found https://github.com/edgecase/ruby_koans, but I can't decide if they're an improvement (didn't look closely)

14:45 <iamvery> There're lot's of mirrors out there.

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14:46 <iamvery> I have https://github.com/iamvery/ruby_koans which I know is the latest that was on the neo repo.

14:46 <iamvery> Not sure how/if we can update http://rubykoans.com/ to fix the currently broken download link.

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14:47 <iamvery> Looks like it's owned by Mike Doel? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=whois+rubykoans.com&atb=v16&ia=whois Anyone know him?

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14:48 <iamvery> https://github.com/mdoel

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14:50 <iamvery> emailed him https://gist.github.com/iamvery/61f774b5d2bcb7a684ef124d4a879567

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14:51 <jsims> anyone know how to fix permission denied errors? i tried installing with rvm single user, tried installing with rvm multi-user, both cases end up the same, "Cannot execute /foo/bar/wrappers: Permission denied (13)"

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14:57 <jhass> iamvery: if you do get a reply, we can talk about rehosting it on https://github.com/ruby-community

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15:02 <iamvery> jhass: I'll keep you posted. Would love to get that fixed. I really like that approach to language introduction.

15:02 <iamvery> broken links -> confused people -> rage quit

15:02 <jhass> iamvery: https://github.com/edgecase/rubykoans.com looks like the site is there too?

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15:02 <shevy> iamvery lol

15:02 <jhass> old version of it anyhow

15:02 <shevy> I like that reaction chain

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15:03 <iamvery> ya, that's interesting jhass. idk the history

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15:04 <iamvery> shevy: that may even be generous for people of the internet

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15:27 <Hawkz> Hi

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15:27 <Hawkz> Anyone willing to help a newbie?

15:28 <Zarthus> just ask

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15:28 <Hawkz> So i just started this Until Loop code

15:28 <Hawkz> And it's giving me infinite loop

15:29 <Zarthus> Got any code?

15:29 <Hawkz> counter = 1 until counter == 10 puts counter # i += 1 i += 1 end

15:29 <Zarthus> do it in a paastebin

15:29 <Hawkz> Ok

15:29 <Zarthus> webchat borks your formatting.

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15:30 <Hawkz> http://pastebin.com/tEBGJgrU

15:30 <ruby[bot]> Hawkz: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/c3e381849253e8484a382c145dd5f7b1

15:30 <ruby[bot]> Hawkz: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.

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15:31 <Hawkz> https://gist.github.com/c3e381849253e8484a382c145dd5f7b1

15:31 <Zarthus> you never defined i

15:31 <Zarthus> you're incrementing i, but you initialized variable counter

15:31 <Zarthus> It should have given you an error though, not loop infinitely.

15:32 <Hawkz> I'm using CodeAcademy , anyway i changed i to counter

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15:33 <Zarthus> great

15:33 <Zarthus> you forgot 'do' at until

15:33 <Zarthus> `until counter == 10 do'

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15:34 <Hawkz> Oh ok

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15:35 <Hawkz> Thanks for helping

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15:46 <guardian> is this possible with rspec: if receive(:foo).with(arg1) { r1 } but have a different r2 return value if received with arg2 ?

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15:47 <jhass> doesn't that just work?

15:48 <jhass> allow(foo).to receive(:foo).with(arg1).and_return(r1); allow(foo).to receive(:foo):with(arg2).and_return(r2)

15:48 <guardian> gonna try again then

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16:32 <imperator> good morning peeps

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16:34 <Mattx> Hey guys! I'm looking for a database that I can store in a file, so it's easy to setup. I'm particularly interested in schemaless databases

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16:34 <Mattx> Is there anything like this?

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16:34 <jhass> Mattx: YDBM?

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16:34 <jhass> http://devdocs.io/ruby~2.3/yaml/dbm

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16:35 <Mattx> jhass, interesting. Do you happen to know how fast it is?

16:36 <Mattx> I want to save and query around 1 million objects

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16:36 <jhass> probably not very

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16:41 <shevy> :D

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16:44 <shevy> hmm... I just wanted to do something weird

16:44 <shevy> I wanted to write a method that has a '-' as part of its name

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16:45 <jhass> shevy: so switch to Nim

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16:45 <jazz1> or lisp

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16:45 <jazz1> or a pry command :p

16:46 <Mattx> it would be great to use sqlite as a schemaless database, for small/command line projects

16:46 <PaulePanter> Hi. With the Ruby debugger (byebug) how can I achieve the following?

16:46 <PaulePanter> def a

16:46 <PaulePanter> byebug

16:46 <PaulePanter> x = something()

16:46 <PaulePanter> end

16:47 <PaulePanter> Now I want to step in the console after the state when x is assigned with manually calling something() in the debug console.

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16:47 <PaulePanter> Using `next` always jumps after the method.

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16:47 <PaulePanter> In this case, `byebug` could be moved after, but this is just an example.

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16:51 <Mattx> something like UnQLite!

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16:55 <ule> Anyone here using Mongoid + Rails?

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16:56 <jhass> ?rails

16:56 <ruby[bot]> Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP

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16:57 <apeiros> Mattx: NoQlite? I want Sqheavy! for the brutal tasks in your sql!

16:57 <ule> What's the best when creating relations like User->Items? has_many or embeds_many?

16:57 <ule> mongoid 5

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16:58 <ule> If I understood well, has_many adds the object_id of the related collection instead of adding the children collection

16:58 <ule> not sure what's the best practice

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17:02 <alfiemax> ule, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10860116/difference-between-embeds-many-and-has-many-in-mongoid

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17:06 <ule> I know the difference

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17:06 <ule> has_many will add the object_id of the children on the parent

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17:06 <ule> but I'm not sure what's the difference in Ruby

17:07 <ule> which one is the best practice?

17:07 <ule> I think I need to create an example with both to get my own conclusions

17:07 <alfiemax> difference in ruby?? i think it's a rails question

17:07 <jhass> they do quite distinct things, it depends on every situation

17:08 <jhass> ?best

17:08 <ruby[bot]> "better" and "best" depend entirely on your context. Try to describe what quality would make one thing better than the other.

17:08 <ule> I think I want something easy to retrieve and save data

17:08 <ule> for example.. Can I use User.Items.create()

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17:09 <ule> anyways.. I'll create an example here.. thanks !!

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17:16 <ule> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8255093/relations-with-mongoid-what-should-i-use

17:16 <ule> This one helped me a bit

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17:27 <shevy> jhass nim is very alien

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17:29 <jhass> yup

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17:41 <jhass> apeiros: seen the earlier convo about ruby koans?

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17:42 <apeiros> jhass: nope. why?

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17:42 <jhass> the neo repo is gone, wondered whether rehosting it on github.com/ruby-community would make sense

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17:42 <apeiros> huh?

17:42 <apeiros> I have nothing against that

17:43 <jhass> https://github.com/neo/ruby_koans/

17:43 <apeiros> but I wonder a) why it's gone (I assume "neo repo" == canonical repo?)

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17:43 <apeiros> and b) whether the creator is ok with us doing so

17:43 <jhass> eh well, would be easier if you could read up, highlighted you back then :P

17:43 <apeiros> seems neo killed all

17:43 <jhass> yup

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17:44 <apeiros> I'd love to, but I'm currently working. deadline on tuesday. so excuse me if I don't have much time at all :-S

17:44 <shevy> we walk the path of _why!

17:44 <apeiros> feel free to reraise the issue next week-end, though. should have more time then :)

17:45 <jhass> ok cool, we might have some feedback from the last maintainer by then

17:46 <apeiros> kk, thx!

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18:40 <kraken_> Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong here. I've simplified my server and 'browser' as much as possible, and it's not working https://gist.github.com/KrakenHH/d155aab17ab5f618848760ebcbf5be4c

18:41 <kraken_> Why is the bottom part not reading from the top part?

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18:44 <kraken_> it works until I send a request

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18:46 <jhass> ?gist_usage

18:46 <ruby[bot]> To properly use gist, please enable syntax highlighting, either by choosing the language manually or by entering a proper filename. If you post multiple things, separate them into multiple files. If you have a Github account, please update your gist with new information instead of posting a new one.

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18:48 <kraken_> Sorry, here https://gist.github.com/KrakenHH/0ab4f8e518aeba3bbfc80b56fe97f88f

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18:50 <jhass> one of three, at least

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18:51 <jhass> .read reads until eof, doesn't it?

18:52 <xybre> kraken_: Did you try telnetting into the server?

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18:53 <jhass> no I'm right

18:54 <jhass> kraken_: your server calls .read, that waits for an EOF but none comes because your client reads before closing the connection from its side

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18:57 <xybre> jhass: the server sends EOF when it closes

18:57 <jhass> yes, irrelevant

18:57 <xybre> (or rather the socket interpretation)

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19:01 <kraken_> hmm

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19:03 <kraken_> Yea, I just get unlimited blinking cursors

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19:06 <jhass> kraken_: did you try to understand what I told you yet?

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19:10 <kraken_> jhass: I think I understand it. The server never gets and eof? because it's never sent, but I'm trying to figure out how to send one without closing the socket on the client side because I need to read the response

19:10 <jhass> kraken_: EOF is usable as a delimiter for multiple messages

19:11 <jhass> use a different delimiter

19:11 <jhass> bah, is not* of course

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19:14 <kraken_> jhass, thank you

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19:15 <xybre> kraken_: you probably don't want to use IO#read if you're expecting to do more than send one message per connection.

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20:14 <Fernando-Basso> In the output of rake routes, the empty "spot" below a prefix in the "spot" above means the empty one is identical to teh one above?

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20:15 <Fernando-Basso> And if the prefix is `articles` I get an 'articles_path` helper method, if the prefix is 'edit_article', I get an 'edit_article_path' helper method. Are those statements reflecting the undeniable truth?

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20:15 <jhass> ?rails

20:15 <ruby[bot]> Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP

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20:15 <Fernando-Basso> Ah, sorry.

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20:22 <Neon> In a Rakefile I can use method(:rule) to get the rule method object. However, when I try this in a class' method, I get an error. How can I retrieve the rule method in the class method?

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20:29 <jhass> http://www.rubydoc.info/gems/rake/Rake/Task#create_rule-class_method

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21:14 <fiifi> hello

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21:16 <jhass> hi

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21:17 <fiifi> jhass: sap

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21:17 <jhass> dunno, not much. Someone joined to #ruby and asked what's up

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21:19 <jhass> fiifi: any question?

21:20 <fiifi> yes

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21:21 <fiifi> i want to master ruby very well, and i want to know if you could be of help

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21:25 <jhass> if you have any specific questions, just ask, sure

21:26 <jhass> we won't tutor you though

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21:27 <fiifi> kk

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21:29 <gizmore> what language is best for a homogenic infrastructur?

21:29 <gizmore> node.js?

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21:29 <gizmore> or is ruby api + angular better?

21:30 <gizmore> does anyone plan to move to node.js for homogenic reasons?

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21:30 <bougyman> what are you talking about?

21:31 <gizmore> would anyone plan to abondon rails or alike for node.js

21:31 <bougyman> i abandoned rails, but not for another language.

21:31 <bougyman> you are aware you're in #ruby?

21:31 <gizmore> yes.. just wondering if anyone also thought to write their next serverstuff in js

21:32 <gizmore> because its the client language

21:32 <bougyman> you might find those people in #node

21:32 <adaedra> ?best

21:32 <ruby[bot]> "better" and "best" depend entirely on your context. Try to describe what quality would make one thing better than the other.

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21:32 <jhass> gizmore: http://voltframework.com/

21:32 <gizmore> thx jhass

21:32 <gizmore> btw, there is also ruby2mobile or something

21:33 <adaedra> And bougyman is right, it's not the best place for that, we'd be a bit biased :)

21:33 <gizmore> and other stuff that might be fun to try... just wondering if some people too are wondering which language will be on all platforms best

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21:33 <gizmore> like a complete node.js project ... or a complete ruby... or complete C# (brrr)

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21:36 <toretore> that's a silly idea; different languages/frameworks/platforms are good at different things

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21:37 <toretore> look at all those failed attempts to bring language x to the browser by compiling to or generating js

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21:41 <gizmore> toretore: but a pure JS project sounds like an intersting idea

21:41 <gizmore> toretore: imagine a typescript codebase where everything is JS, and just the targets spit out server and clients

21:41 <gizmore> all homogenic... sounds like an interesting idea to me

21:42 <toretore> interesting perhaps, but i don't know about good

21:42 <gizmore> yeah... never tried

21:42 <gizmore> angular-material-server

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21:43 <gizmore> sounds like a fun package name to start such a thing

21:43 <gizmore> also MVC is dead

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21:43 <gizmore> long live Components and Services

21:43 <gizmore> CCCS arch

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21:44 <toretore> i heard the rdbms was dead too

21:44 <toretore> been hearing it for 10 years

21:44 <gizmore> it´s just sleeping

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21:44 <gizmore> the main reason is efficience

21:44 <gizmore> if a tool is efficient, it can rest

21:45 <gizmore> at work the java guys do: Interface/Impl/Facade

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21:45 <gizmore> The IIFCVVVCMSSIPPF pattern

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21:47 <gizmore> and one day at work someone said... "i don´t use the mvc folders.. i put all in a C folder, and still have it mvcsfd"

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21:47 <gizmore> and i told him... people will argue... but you are right... just C and S does make sense

21:47 <gizmore> Component and Service

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21:49 <adaedra> what if I told you

21:49 <adaedra> there's no one-fit-all architecture

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21:52 <jhass> use mongo yo, it's webscale

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21:56 <adaedra> jhass: that's MEAN.

21:56 <jhass> it's the only thing I can think of in these kind of discussions, sorry

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23:36 <pipework> What if I told you architecture isn't what matters?

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23:44 <shevy> they would think that you would be drunk

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