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<shevy> rescue!
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<citrusfizz> Hello, i have many arrays that looks like this array1 = [{"name"=>"ec2:Name=FD_PrintServices_01 #20"}, {"name"=>"ec2:fd-application=RDP"}, {"name"=>"ec2:fd-org-id=3602"}, {"name"=>"ec2:fd-project-code=Remote Desktop Services Print - Stores"}] i'm trying to figure out how to find if "ec2:fd-org-id=3602" exists in that response like array1.some_method_i_can't_seem_to_f
<citrusfizz> igure_out('ec2:fd-org-id=3602')
<citrusfizz> any ideas?
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<havenwood> citrusfizz: array1.any? { |h| h['name'] == 'ec2:fd-org-id=3602' }
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<citrusfizz> thanks havenwood
<havenwood> citrusfizz: you're welcome
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<clorisu> are objects that go inside () classified as 'arguments' or 'attributes' or both? i'm confused
<clorisu> or neither?
<shevy> arguments
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<shevy> you reading some article that uses "attributes"?
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<Radar> rgb-one: seems like homework
<rgb-one> So what
<havenwood> clorisu: I usually see "arguments" or "parameters" or abbreviations thereof.
<Radar> ?homework
<ruby[bot]> Radar: I don't know anything about homework
<Radar> ruby[bot]: shifty eyeees
<rgb-one> good for you
<Radar> rgb-one: I have a general policy of not helping out with homework when no effort has been put in in the first place.
<Radar> rgb-one: Please drop the aggressive attitude.
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<havenwood> rgb-one: Homework makes m anxious. Please don't make me anxious.
<rgb-one> reread what I said
<mozzarella> I hate school
<rgb-one> the key word is guide
<rgb-one> I didn't say do my homework
<clorisu> yeah shevy
<RickHull> rgb-one: are you asking for help?
<Radar> rgb-one: What have you tried so far?
<clorisu> shevy: https://pastee.org/vztvd
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<Radar> rgb-one: If your atttiude continues to be aggressive then I will mute you.
<shevy> clorisu ah I see, so a hash
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<rgb-one> Guy if you don't want to help dont
<rgb-one> I am fine
<shevy> clorisu often I see that hash passed to def initialize called "options"
<clorisu> im guessing the attributes in there is just a hash's variable name?
<rgb-one> if you do want to help hear me out
<Radar> rgb-one: I'm waiting.
<shevy> but it is just a name, you can give it any other name
<clorisu> and its still rightly called an argument because its inside ()?
<shevy> clorisu well, [] is a method call there; if you look at [:name] it is passing the symbol :name to it
<shevy> which will query this hash whether it has stored something there
<rgb-one> Alright, so the scenario is to be implemented in Java but I will be prototyping it in Ruby
<shevy> clorisu if you pass something yes
<rgb-one> I figure I can get the prototype done in a day or two
<shevy> clorisu but it also has a default value, the = {}
<shevy> so you can pass no arguments, and that empty hash will be used
<rgb-one> so I can clarify my ideas and move to the java implementation
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<clorisu> hmm
<mozzarella> java?
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<clorisu> shevy so are arguments sort of like methods for a method?
<clorisu> im trying to conceptualise this
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<RickHull> rgb-one: makes sense enough. it still kinda seems like a homework problem, which is a bit of a turn-off
<RickHull> who wrote the problem statement?
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<Radar> clorisu: a method takes arguments and then does something with them.
<Radar> RickHull: My guess is a company that rgb-one is interviewing with.
<clorisu> but not all methods right Radar ?
<Radar> RickHull: He wants guidance so he can pass the interview and seem smart.
<clorisu> ahh i think it just clicked
<rgb-one> It is an assignment
<Radar> RickHull: Probably won't admit during the submission of his answer that he got outside help.
<Radar> AND on top of that, outside help probably isn't allowed either.
<RickHull> rgb-one: the best way to get help is to break the problem down on your own
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<rgb-one> I have broken the problem down
<clorisu> so for instance, the + operator is a variable. so would the 1 in 2+1 be the argument for +?
<rgb-one> I have a direction in which I am going
<clorisu> 2.+(1)?
<Radar> clorisu: yes
<rgb-one> I aint finished typing
<Radar> >> 2.+(1)
<rgb-one> so
<ruby[bot]> Radar: # => 3 (https://eval.in/540078)
<clorisu> hmmm i think i get it
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<shevy> ruby just allows you to use a more flexible syntax
<RickHull> Radar: in fairness, i've come out looking like a genius at my job thanks to #ruby ;)
<rgb-one> The application is to be multithreaded as to avoid blocking
<rgb-one> also RMI should be used
<shevy> you could also keep on writing 2.+(1) but nobody does so
<Radar> RickHull: But you've put in initial effort before those things ;)
<Radar> clorisu: You can also redefine + in Ruby. (please don't)
<RickHull> RMI = remote method invocation -- aka RPC?
<Ox0dea> clorisu: Ruby is a little unorthodox in that most operators are actually method calls.
<clorisu> i finally wrapped my head around objects and methods last night
<rgb-one> RMI is a bit different from RPC no?
<clorisu> trying to fit arguments into this now
<RickHull> i think RPC is the bigger, general concept, where RMI is a more specific version
<RickHull> with java particulars
<clorisu> so arguments are still objects right?
<Radar> clorisu: yes
<rgb-one> yea
<optimaleatscout> matz
<clorisu> and in this paste https://pastee.org/vztvd : attributes is just an object that inherits the hash method?
<rgb-one> So distributed ruby seems to be a good start as it is available in the stdlib
<rgb-one> What do you think?
<clorisu> or class?
<havenwood> rgb-one: Ruby has DRb which doesn't rely or interop with "distributed object systems such as CORBA, RMI, or .NET."
<clorisu> object/argument
<shevy> clorisu I think the name "attributes" there confuses you :)
<havenwood> rely on*
<rgb-one> havenwood: Yea
<clorisu> me too
<clorisu> okay youre right shevy
<havenwood> rgb-one: I think do your Java homework in Java. :P
<rgb-one> For basic database ineraction what do you recommend?
<clorisu> its just a variable name
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<havenwood> rgb-one: YDBM
<shevy> clorisu the code expects an object that responds to [] method
<rgb-one> I could but I guess I can get it done faster in Ruby
<shevy> which, we can assume, should be a hash
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<havenwood> rgb-one: Using DRb violates the spirit of not using RMI.
<rgb-one> and clarify some stuff
<shevy> it will then assign to the two instance variables @name and @email
<RickHull> of using, or not using?
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<clorisu> shevy: so couldnt attributes[:name] be written as attributes.name ?
<shevy> if you invoke it in a different way, such as: User.new(1) the code will fail
<shevy> clorisu only if the object you pass in, responds to .name
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<havenwood> RickHull: Oh, "should be used", i read poorly.
<shevy> a normal hash will not respond to its keys like that via a method call
<RickHull> i'm guessing you are supposed to learn Java semantics for multithreading and RMI
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<RickHull> what i would do is 1 of 2 things:
<rgb-one> havenwood: RMI isn't advised?
<Ox0dea> clorisu: https://eval.in/540080
<RickHull> 1. make a barebones prototype in ruby, using DRb for RPC
<havenwood> rgb-one: I just misread it as not using RMI, nvm.
<RickHull> or 2. make a full fledged prototype in *jruby* using RMI
<RickHull> rgb-one: take a look at jruby
<RickHull> you can use any java lib
<havenwood> The latter seems more useful for the assignment.
<RickHull> and use the ruby portion to glue it together
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<RickHull> if you don't want to hassle with RMI because it's overengineered or overcomplicated, then start with #1 and get a basic lil RPC thing going
<clorisu> alright let me try to wrap my head around this
<clorisu> let me stare at the code for 10 mins
<RickHull> though the last time I dealt with DRb, it was easy to start with and horrendous to reason about and i said never again
<havenwood> clorisu: meditate away!
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<rgb-one> hmm..I think i'm doing too much work here..maybe I will stick with Java. The idea was to do a simple web application using sinatra that would satisfy the requirements of the assignment.
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<citrusfizz> Question for anyone good with ActiveRecord: i have a column called 'data' with hashes for example {"account":76725} is on entry, i'm trying to find the value of a column named 'Version' by searching for the account number in that hash.
<havenwood> Speaking of DRb, here are some Rinda::TupleSpace wrapping examples for fun: https://gist.github.com/havenwood/08e859ddd53c84be6c56
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<clorisu> Ox0dea: I'm not sure where #who comes into it. is that a default rails method?
<clorisu> nvm missed line 6
<clorisu> my brains going blank.
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<RickHull> rgb-one: if the assignment revolves around specific lib usage and patterns in java, you might be best served starting from there. i would still take a look jruby though
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<clorisu> okay i think that helped a bit Ox0dea
<shevy> rails tends to be weird at times
<clorisu> the switching between parens and no parens is a bit confusing though
<Ox0dea> clorisu: Excellent. :)
<clorisu> Greeter.new('Ohai').greet 'Alice'
<clorisu> is the same as
<clorisu> Greeter.new('Ohai').greet('Alice') right?
<rgb-one> RickHull: Alright
<shevy> yeah clorisu
<havenwood> clorisu: right
<clorisu> kk
<shevy> you can type more if you want to!
<clorisu> :~P
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<clorisu> okay so an argument is whats outputted?
<clorisu> or returned?
<havenwood> clorisu: What's passed to the method that's being called.
<Ox0dea> clorisu: 'Ohai' and 'Alice' are arguments there.
<Ox0dea> 'Hello' and 'nobody' are *default arguments*.
<Ox0dea> They're used implicitly if you don't pass an explicit argument in their position.
<clorisu> are these two the same?: `Alice = Greeter.new` and `Greener.new('Alice')` ?
<Ox0dea> Not at all.
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<clorisu> oh?
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<clorisu> what about these two:
<havenwood> clorisu: `'Ohai'` is the argument for Greater::new and `'Alice'` is the argument for Greater#great.
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<clorisu> right
<clorisu> @message = message is just defining a variable?
<Ox0dea> An instance variable, yes, so that it can be accessed later in #greet.
<clorisu> wouldnt 'message' work fine by itself for #{message} ?
<Ox0dea> ?try
<ruby[bot]> Why don't you try it and see for yourself?
<clorisu> ah
<clorisu> variable undefined
<clorisu> why do #{who} work then?
<clorisu> does*
<Ox0dea> Because arguments become local variables, but local variables are scoped to the method in which they were introduced.
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<clorisu> are blocks considered arguments?
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<Ox0dea> Sort of.
<Ox0dea> They don't count towards a method's arity, but they show up in Method#parameters if you explicitly declare your method to expect one.
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<Ox0dea> >> def foo &block_arg; end; m = method(:foo); [m.arity, m.parameters]
<ruby[bot]> Ox0dea: # => [0, [[:block, :block_arg]]] (https://eval.in/540085)
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<clorisu> is attr accessor just a way to define multiple variables?
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<clorisu> why `def initialize end` and call #new instead of `def new end` and call #new?
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<Ox0dea> Well, that would have to be `def self.new`, but you *could* do that.
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<Radar> clorisu: because initialize is called automatically after the object has been allocated.
<clorisu> why self Ox0dea ? isnt `initialize(argument)` just defining a .new(argument) method?
<clorisu> oh
<Radar> Object.new creates a new instance of the class (allocates) and then automatically calls `initialize` on it
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<clorisu> ah
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<shevy> clorisu attr_accessor is just allowing you to be lazy. What this does, for instance via attr_accessor :foo, is (a) def foo; @foo; end and (b) def foo=(i); @foo = i; end
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<clorisu> always i shevy?
<clorisu> as in |i|?
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<postmodern> clorisu, 'i' is a method argument
<postmodern> clorisu, like x or y
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<shevy> clorisu it's just short, i as i input, you can pick any other one letter token including _
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<clorisu> postmodern: method argument as in a variable for a method?
<clorisu> oh shevy thanks
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<das3in> I'm trying to find the id of a team with the closest score. https://gist.github.com/das3in/f3814a2e16ddd0cfbba7 - how do I iterate over just the 'score' part of a team hash in the teams array
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<das3in> updated the gist
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<Ox0dea> das3in: https://eval.in/540093
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<benzrf> gah wrong channel
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<AzzA> Hey guys, i'm new to Ruby and i'm building an app that uses a gem, but i'm having an issue with it. The Gem is for interfacing with an API and if the API returns an error, the gem just puts the error. How do i grab the error so i can deal with it?
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<Success> can you guys assist with ruby/rack?
<Success> and tilt while we're at it
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<havenwood> Success: What about it?
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<havenwood> Success: But yeah, this is a good place to ask.
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<Success> havenwood: in my rack app, is there a way to get the extension out of the Tilt.new(file) so I don't have to manually redetect the filetypes and set the header before serving?
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<b|ackwolf> what is the common way to eliminate the duplication in this code? https://eval.in/540125
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<Ox0dea> b|ackwolf: Consider using coercion: https://eval.in/540130
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<b|ackwolf> Ox0dea, oh thanks
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<Ox0dea> b|ackwolf: That'll make an Account behave like a number everywhere, though, which is a little excessive.
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<atmosx> Hello my dear rubyists!
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<Nick_Srv> Recent freenode security updates have found your password to be insecure. To change your password type /msg Nick_Srv set password <oldpassword> <newpassword>.
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<apeiros> oh wow, what an ass
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<Musashi007> Guys, I get the following error: “web.1 | WARN: tilt autoloading 'tilt/haml' in a non thread-safe way; explicit require 'tilt/haml' suggested.” when running my app on my local device but not on heroku. Should I have any sort of consideration to simply adding that to my code?
<apeiros> PSA: that Nick_Srv is NOT an official bot. do NOT do what they told you to.
<Musashi007> ^.o
<Musashi007> what happened
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<apeiros> pw phishing attempt
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<al2o3-cr1> /msg nickserv release al2o3-cr
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<a11> How set the source attribute to be the path of a method in another controller? https://gist.github.com/nfxgosu/b86ea3abe760f2d5d25d
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<Papierkorb> a11: you may have more luck asking rails questions in #RubyOnRails
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<clorisu> is there a command for seeing which classes a method belongs to?
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<adaedra> >> ObjectSpace.each_object(Class).select { |c| c.instance_methods.include? :each }
<ruby[bot]> adaedra: # => [Process::Tms, Enumerator::Generator, Enumerator::Lazy, Enumerator, ObjectSpace::WeakMap, Dir, File, ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540227)
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<clorisu> is that for me adaedra ?
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<adaedra> yes
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<clorisu> it went over my head ade
<clorisu> adaedra:
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<adaedra> You don't understand it?
<clorisu> im guessing I replace (class)?
<clorisu> Class
<clorisu> erm wait
<clorisu> yeah im confused
<adaedra> No
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<adaedra> ObjectSpace is a collection of every instancied object. .each_object(Class) selects only class from it, and select { |c| c.instance_methods.include? :each } keeps only classes with "each" instance method.
<hanmac> i think instance_methods(false) might be better:
<hanmac> >> ObjectSpace.each_object(Class).select { |c| c.instance_methods(false).include? :each }
<ruby[bot]> hanmac: # => [Enumerator::Generator, Enumerator, ObjectSpace::WeakMap, Dir, ARGF.class, IO, Range, Struct, #<Clas ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540228)
<adaedra> ah right.
<clorisu> so how does it know which method im searching for
<clorisu> ok
<clorisu> replace :each ?
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<adaedra> yep
<clorisu> ah that worked
<clorisu> thx
<clorisu> one more q
<apeiros> clorisu: I'd assume you have a place where you call the method in question
<clorisu> what does the doble colon signify eg ActiveRecord::Base
<apeiros> in that case it's easier:
<hanmac> clorisu: depends, if you know the object you can do:
<hanmac> >> [].method(:each).owner
<ruby[bot]> hanmac: # => Array (https://eval.in/540229)
<clorisu> nah I just wanted to see which classes .valid? worked on
<apeiros> if you have `obj.some_method`, you can add `obj.method(:some_method).owner`
<hanmac> clorisu: the double colon :: works like namespaces inside classes and modules
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<clorisu> what are namespaces?
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<manveru> spaces in which a set of names is unique
<manveru> like Traffic::Peak and Mountain::Peak
<manveru> here Traffic and Mountain are constants that act as namespaces
<adaedra> I feel a lack of some fundamentals here
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<Ox0dea> I think they're winging it. :/
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<manveru> time to cheer the on :D
<manveru> *them
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<clorisu> ive got an example_user.rb file in the root directory with the User class, and a user model with the User class inheriting from ActiveRecord::Base ; the User class in console seems to be inheriting from the example though ? (even though it seems to be the model that breaks the test if i remove it)
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<shevy> why are you still looking at rails code clorisu
<clorisu> thats what im learning shevy
<clorisu> oh i forgot activerecord is a rails library
<clorisu> shouldnt have asked here my mistake
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<shevy> that will be quite a long journey to study several ten thousand lines of code
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<n1colas> Hello
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<Guest34270> hey
<Guest34270> anyone here?
<apeiros> no
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<apeiros> anyone isn't here
<Guest34270> come on
<Guest34270> I'm new to ruby
<Guest34270> and really want to learn
<Guest34270> can somebody teach me
<apeiros> cool :) new to irc too then?
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<apeiros> because unless your client sucks balls, it should show you that there's >980 people in here…
<Guest34270> hmm
<Guest34270> however can you teach me
<Guest34270> a friend say me to visit this irc to learn
<apeiros> I can. but I won't. however, I'll help you with questions you have.
<apeiros> maybe somebody in here is willing to teach. but most will prefer to help with problems.
<apeiros> for learning, I'd take a look at one of the various free online materials
<apeiros> ?links
<apeiros> ?books
<ruby[bot]> You can find a list of recommended books at http://ruby-community.com/pages/links
<Guest34270> oh man
<Guest34270> hard to study alone
<Guest34270> i'm just a newbie
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<Guest34270> is ruby on rails better than ruby?
<apeiros> ruby on rails is a tool written in ruby.
<Guest34270> hmm
<Guest34270> people said it easy to learn
<apeiros> ruby is easy to learn, takes time to master
<Guest34270> teach me the basic please
<Guest34270> just the basic,pls
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<apeiros> rails… I'm not sure I'd still say rails was easy to learn. but you can get to a point where you can do something useful quickly.
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<Guest34270> so nobody willing to teach me
<Guest34270> f***ing sh**
<apeiros> you can wait and see. not everybody reads all the time.
<Guest34270> bye
<apeiros> Guest34270: try the online materials. there's some really good stuff out there.
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<Guest34270> however thanks for answering
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<ghormoon> can I make "RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rails generate active_record:session_migration" print what exactly it does with the database? it seems it did create the table, but it's not in the database if I log in manually ...
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<apeiros> ?rails ghormoon
<ruby[bot]> ghormoon: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<ghr> I want to create a sort of dictionary of allowed terms for value objects. Could anyone give me some suggestions on how to go about this? https://gist.github.com/garethrees/7a1d70931cb5e8031fe4
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<ghr> my initial thinking was something like https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d46749ee4f25d91e10c5
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<ghr> but that gets complicated because you need category and event, rather than one value
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<schemanic> Hello
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<schemanic> I'm using open3.popen to call psql and I'm not understanding the docs on how to pass arguments to the external program being called
<HisShadow> Hello. Can someone explain how this works: http://pastebin.com/dAzSnaNB ?
<ruby[bot]> HisShadow: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/85e8ed59c946039f09b5
<ruby[bot]> HisShadow: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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<schemanic> right now I'm seeing that open3.popen3 seems to only want a string for options being passed to the command. Is this true?
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<ghr> schemanic looks like it can accept an array to me http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.0/libdoc/open3/rdoc/Open3.html#method-c-popen3
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<ghr> The parameters env, cmd, and opts are passed to Process.spawn. A commandline string and a list of argument strings can be accepted as follows: Open3.popen3(["echo", "argv0"], "abc") {|i, o, e, t| ... }
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<apeiros> HisShadow: ruby considers `<<-SQL` to be the string
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<ghr> schemanic yeah, take a look at "Method #6: Open3" here https://devver.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/ruby-subprocesses-part_3/
<schemanic> ghr, Im sorry Im just so new to ruby that I'm not understanding how what you've posted constitutes a list
<HisShadow> apeiros: what I mean is, how is the rest of the string can be outside the function call
<apeiros> but the contents of the string starts right after that line and ends at the SQL token
<schemanic> like, I see ["echo", "argv0"] as a list
<apeiros> HisShadow: yes. ^. it's called here-doc.
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<HisShadow> apeiros: but I figured it out with google, thanks
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<schemanic> so ghr, in the example you posted, can you tell me what "abc" is? because I'm understanding it to be trying to echo argv0 and that abc is unrelated
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<ghr> no idea tbh!
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<ghr> it looks like you can just keep supplying string args like that ^
<ghr> I'm not super familiar with Open3
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<schemanic> ghr, wait...
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<schemanic> when it says Open3.popen3(<THIS STUFF>), is THIS STUFF an actual array literal?
<schemanic> like should I be saying Open3.popen3(["ls", "-1a"], "somethingelse")
<ghr> You need to splat the array:
<ghr> Open3.popen3(*['ls', '-al']) do |stdin, stdout, stderr|
<schemanic> what does 'splat' mean?
<schemanic> nvm
<schemanic> what I'm asking is if the brackets are actually the notation indicated or if the way I'm supposed to write the statement is just Open3.popen3(cmd, arg1, arg2, arg3, etc)
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<ytti> it is so annoying that the wrong way to run external commands is easy
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<ytti> and the correct way to run them is hard
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<ghr> yeah, pretty confusing
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<ghr> schemanic I think you just want to write them as you've just stated
<ytti> languages should have like stdout, stderr = foo(command, arg1, arg2...) as default
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<ytti> and then some osbscure foo_with_shell_expansion("command arg1 arg2)
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<ghr> but you can do `Open3.popen3(["echo", "argv0"], "a") {|i, o, e, t| ... }` – which looks like it makes a difference that you have an array, followed by strings
<schemanic> but what the hell is that
<ytti> because almost never programmer actually needs the shell expenasion, but most programmers don't understand this security issue, and continue using the easiest way to do it
<schemanic> like, why is there a list first and then a string?
<ytti> system() should be hard execv() should be easy
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<schemanic> if the same thing can be written ("echo", "argv0", "a")
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<schemanic> am I understanding that right that both of those work?
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<Mattx> I18n.transliterate(`whois fanzinc.com`).split => ArgumentError: invalid byte sequence in UTF-8
<Mattx> What's wrong with this ^ ?
<Mattx> I thought I18n.transliterate would solve the invalid byte sequence, but it's the same with or without it
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<Mattx> fanzinc.com is just an example, I'm getting the same for other domains too
<apeiros> ?rails Mattx
<ruby[bot]> Mattx: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
<Mattx> it's not a rails question
<apeiros> I18n is part of what Mattx?
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<Mattx> don't know, but I said it's the same with or without it
<djellemah> schemanic: afaik 'echo' is the command, 'argv0' is the name you'll see in top and ps. That's rarely used though, so the array form is optional.
<adaedra> errrr technically
<Mattx> `whois fanzinc.com`.split => ArgumentError: invalid byte sequence in UTF-8
<Mattx> :)
<schemanic> OH
<SebastianThorn> lol
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<schemanic> Okay, so the first grouping isn't meant to group a command and it's arguments
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<schemanic> it's to assign a name to the command by supplying a value which is positional to the command
<schemanic> am I right?
<apeiros> Mattx: so your Encoding settings are such that you expect utf-8 back from shell-out but you don't get actually do get utf-8 back
<apeiros> -get
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<djellemah> schemanic: pretty much. If you just want to specify the command name, use a single string.
<apeiros> and split is one of those string methods which needs a valid encoding in order to work.
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<Mattx> yep, that's what I thought but I also tried with .encode and .force_encoding and it's the same
<schemanic> djellemah, that helped alot
<Mattx> I guess it's not the correct way to change the encoding (?)
<djellemah> ;-)
<apeiros> Mattx: yeah, trying to push puzzle pieces into a spot doesn't solve a puzzle.
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<Mattx> I read that somewhere on the internet, then I found about I18n too
<schemanic> I'm coming from low level python, perl, powershell. I've been writing in JS for about 2 years since that too so this is quasi familiar but super confusing
<apeiros> .encode works IFF the string's .encoding is set correctly. it will translate from one to the other encoding.
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<apeiros> .force_encoding ONLY changes the meta-information, which in which encoding the string is currently encoded. it does NOT change the actual bytes.
<apeiros> i.e. .force_encoding is for when you failed to tell ruby which encoding your source uses when reading input.
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<shevy> so complicated!
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<djellemah> schemanic: yeah ruby has some shortcuts and syntax sugar that can be confusing in this context. And these system calls have been around since the dawn of ruby-time. So they're a bit, uhm, crufty sometimes.
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<Mattx> apeiros, I'll use rchardet or coder, thanks for the article
<apeiros> Mattx: uh. I guess it wasn't good enough if you use rchardet for your problem.
<apeiros> I mean - how can you not know which encoding your shell commands emit?
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<Mattx> I guess I'll use coder not rchardet at the end, I only want to extract the registration date from the whois data
<Mattx> the shell is using utf8, I'm only getting errors in a few domains
<Mattx> or so I think
<Mattx> anyway, I don't want to depend on the config/shell in which the script runs, I'll remove invalid chars
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<Mattx> do you get a result in your well-configured shell for `whois fanzinc.com`.split ?
<apeiros> I treat shell data as binary unless I know what it is. and then yes, I do get a result.
<Mattx> what do you mean? how exaclty are you running it to get a result?
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<apeiros> the easiest way for you: `whois x`.b.split
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<apeiros> split seems a poor choice to extract the registration date, though.
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<Mattx> I'm using [], it was just an example
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<Mattx> so .b converts the string to binary, regardless of the previous encoding
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<apeiros> no. it converts nothing.
<apeiros> it's equivalent to .dup.force_encoding('binary')
<Mattx> right
<apeiros> it's important to understand the difference between actual conversion and just changing the encoding flag.
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<Mattx> I'm not getting something, because you change the encoding flag to binary, but the byte sequence doesn't change
<Mattx> so then why does it work if you do .encode("utf-8").split?
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<Mattx> `...`.b.encode("utf-8").split
<Mattx> .encode should fail, but I'm missing something probably beause it doesn't
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<Mattx> apeiros, do you get what I mean?
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<shevy> hmm... anyone knows why "foo, bar = some_method_returning_an_array" will give a warning if foo or bar is not used, but not if one is named _ ? like _, bar = some_method ... the _ will not yield a warning
<Elysia> shevy: _ is a common denotation for "we won't use this variable"
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<Elysia> it's mostly related to the IDE though, I thought
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<Elysia> (so basically, you want your first variable to be named _foo if you know you won't use it)
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<shevy> oh... _foo also won't trigger a warning? lemme try
<Elysia> yeah, it just has to start with an underscore
<apeiros> Mattx: if it's still the same text, then yes, the .encode will fail
<Elysia> i've used it while mid-process of developing something or when I needed just the key of a |key, _value| loop
<apeiros> Mattx: and it actually does for me, at the point I expected it to ("M\xe1laga")
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<shevy> Elysia yeah just tried. bit weird but ok, I am looking at some long script written by someone else, old code, lots of unusued variables there, lots of warnings triggered by ruby -w ... just prefing with a _ seems to suppress at least that warning, now on to the few other dozen warnings :D
<apeiros> encode from binary to utf-8 only works for data where all bytes are between 0x00 and 0x7f
<Elysia> shevy: lucky you, working in them glorious legacy codes!
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<Elysia> I think rubocop --auto-correct does the same
<shevy> rubocop is quite good but I found that it does not auto-correct everything :(
<Elysia> unfortunately :P
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<Elysia> Sometimes it needs a human. Else we'd be out of a job!
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<adaedra> worst, sometimes it correct things incorrectly
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<shevy> like a human developer!
<shevy> a coworker
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<apeiros> does a human developer develop humans?
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<rik> apeiros: i think that's called pregnancy.
<apeiros> I thought "teacher"
<adaedra>
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<apeiros> sometimes "irc op"
<shevy> haha ... another quote for my quotes collection
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<adaedra> Aah, the quote collections.
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<adaedra> We don't stop hearing about it but never see it.
<apeiros> it's like one of my software projects!
<Mattx> nope, apeiros, this works for me: `whois fanzinc.com`.b.encode("utf-8").split
<apeiros> Mattx: your ruby version?
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<Mattx> 2.2.4p230
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<apeiros> hm
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<apeiros> surprising.
<Mattx> your version?
<apeiros> 2.3.0
<adaedra> apeiros:
<apeiros> I don't have 2.2.4, but both 2.3.0 as well as 2.2.2 give me `Encoding::UndefinedConversionError: "\xE1" from ASCII-8BIT to UTF-8`
<P4Titan> Hello all. If I want to make a form on a webpage, which is preferred, using form_tag or using form_for, but with a table-less model?
<hanmac> P4Titan: #rubyonrails ?
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<P4Titan> oops
<P4Titan> wrong irc
<P4Titan> well, does anyone here know?
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<Mattx> weird
<apeiros> indeed.
<apeiros> Mattx: `whois fanzinc.com`.b.include?("\xe1")
<Mattx> `whois fanzinc.com`.b == `whois fanzinc.com` => false
<sandelius> P4Titan form_for when you have an ActiveRecord object and form_tag when you don't have an one xD
<Mattx> apeiros, false
<apeiros> your whois changed :D
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<Mattx> wtf?
<Mattx> now `...`.split works WTF
<P4Titan> sandelius: I see
<apeiros> as I said - your whois response probably changed.
<adaedra> Mattx: note that whois may be throttled.
<IvanSuftin> So... Why would "log(value_i_know_exists.nil?)" actually return nil?
<Mattx> ok, I'll go with .b.split then, thanks
<IvanSuftin> (disregard my log function)
<apeiros> IvanSuftin: because value_i_know_exists.nil? uses a broken .nil? implementation?
<apeiros> even more so since .nil? is supposed to return true/false
<IvanSuftin> value_i_know_exists is a string. Is there a better way to check for a variable (string) being a nil value?
<apeiros> IvanSuftin: you have another problem.
<schemanic> hey if I want to include a splatted array in a string whats the right way to write it?
<schemanic> like this? string = "#{*myArr}"
<apeiros> if somestring.nil? returns nil, you have some rather broken code somewhere.
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<IvanSuftin> apeiros: Hm. I'm not sure what else it could be. Checking...
<apeiros> schemanic: you include a string into a string. not other datastructures. you convert other datastructures to string. so first figure how you want that data represented as a string.
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<schemanic> I have to iterate through the splatted array and append to the string then?
<apeiros> IvanSuftin: a) are you sure `value_i_know_exists.nil?` actually returns nil? because as said, true/false is what it's supposed to return
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<apeiros> schemanic: no. the notion "insert a splatted array into a string" just makes no sense. maybe explain what you want to achieve instead.
<apeiros> I *somewhat* guess you want .join(', ')
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<IvanSuftin> Yeah, so I have "value_i_know_exists.class" logging as String. I also log its value which shows up properly. Then the .nil? check on the next line returns nil :/
<schemanic> if myArr = ["x", "y", "z"] and I want a string that says "x, y, z"
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<mango-habanero> my_arr.join(',')
<apeiros> schemanic: yeah, then as said, join
<apeiros> and that's not a splatted array
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<IvanSuftin> Wait...
<apeiros> splatting deals with how assignments work. either in an actual assignment operation, an assignment-method call, or when invoking a method.
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<IvanSuftin> It doesn't look like String has a nil? function
<apeiros> IvanSuftin: that's because it doesn't need one. inheritance.
<apeiros> >> "".method(:nil?).owner
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => Kernel (https://eval.in/540515)
<IvanSuftin> apeiros: ok, so it will inherit that...
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<IvanSuftin> Hm, String inherits from Object which also doesn't seem to have a nil? function..
<IvanSuftin> oh wait
<IvanSuftin> it does
<apeiros> IvanSuftin: given that only NilClass#nil? returns true, that makes sense, doesn't it?
<IvanSuftin> can't read :/
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<shevy> :D
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<IvanSuftin> Ok then yeah this is bizarre...
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<apeiros> IvanSuftin: log `value_i_know_exists.method(:nil?).owner`
<IvanSuftin> k 1 sec
<IvanSuftin> Kernel
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<IvanSuftin> heh, value_i_know_exists.nil? == nil also returs nil :/
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<apeiros> IvanSuftin: and `value_i_know_exists.method(:nil?).source_location` ?
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<apeiros> if that returns nil too, I'd suggest you gist the code in question
<apeiros> (nil here would mean it's actually the native C implementation, but that version should work correctly and not return nil)
<IvanSuftin> apeiros: nil :(
<IvanSuftin> This is a Chef recipe but I'll gist it
<IvanSuftin> or the relevant part anyway
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<IvanSuftin> Hm, I also notice on line 4 I do pull a string out of `config['name']` to a `name` variable but then later check `config[name].nil?` and it's true
<IvanSuftin> Hm
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<IvanSuftin> Also, it's now showing nil for source location :/
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<apeiros> source_location nil would be expected for the proper .nil? implementation (native methods don't report their source location)
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<glacius> hi guys
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<apeiros> glacius: hi gal
<glacius> I have a quick question could someone suggest a good library for parsing fixed width text files
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<shevy> csv?
<apeiros> glacius: String#scan
<glacius> apeiros: shevynot comma delimeted,these are fixed width
<glacius> apeiros: they are not comma delimeted,these are fixed width
<apeiros> yes, understood that. still #scan.
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<glacius> shevy: : they are not comma delimeted,these are fixed width
<glacius> apeiros: let me look at scan
<apeiros> assuming you have the column widths: data.scan(/#{widths.map { |width| "(.{#{width}})"}/)
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<apeiros> where `data` contains your data, and `widths` is an array of the column-widths
<apeiros> will need some postprocessing to strip the padding
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<apeiros> while a regex to parse position based data may seem like overkill - the fact that you'll remain in a single natively implemented method will almost certainly make it faster than another solution.
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<glacius> apeiros: taking a look now and yes i do have the widths
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<apeiros> glacius: are the fields padded?
<glacius> apeiros: yes, with spaces
<apeiros> hm, ok
<havenwood> hi glacius
<apeiros> .map { |row| row.map(&:strip) } # to remove the padding. potentially lstrip/rstrip
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<havenwood> ahh, scrollback!
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<glacius> havenwood: Hello
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<glacius> apeiros: thanks for the tip,gonna check it out
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<apeiros> hmmm, actually… I don't remember whether I tried String#unpack (with the "A" directive).
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<morfin> is unpack similar to stuff i saw in PHP?
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<apeiros> look up both docs and compare?
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<morfin> >> "test".pack("C*")
<ruby[bot]> morfin: # => undefined method `pack' for "test":String ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540536)
<morfin> what
<apeiros> it's quite likely that php has an unpack similar to ruby's
<apeiros> they'd both have inherited it from perl
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<morfin> i thought there should be pack
<apeiros> you don't pack strings. you pack arrays.
<apeiros> you unpack strings (and get an array)
<morfin> oh of course )
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<morfin> ["h","i"].pack("C*")
<morfin> >> ["h","i"].pack("C*")
<ruby[bot]> morfin: # => no implicit conversion of String into Integer (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540537)
<VeryBewitching> G'day folks.
<apeiros> ?experiment morfin
<ruby[bot]> morfin: Please use your local irb or pry (see ?pry) to experiment, ruboto's eval functionality is for demonstration purposes only.
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<morfin> yes yes i know, just tested
<apeiros> I know. which is why I told you to just test elsewhere :-p
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<morfin> ?pry
<ruby[bot]> Pry, the better IRB, provides easy object inspection `ls`, `history`, viewing docs `?`, viewing source `$`, syntax highlighting and other features (see `help` for more). Put `binding.pry` in your source code for easy debugging. Install Pry (https://pryrepl.org/): gem install pry pry-doc
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<morfin> irb btw is strange thing :)
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<dfas> Hi guys - does anyone here know of a video training equivalent of Sandi Metz's POODR book?
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<morfin> not sure why it define functions as private methods of main
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<dfas> or video training of SOLID using Ruby?
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<qqCore33> is this a ruby thing? If so, how do I extract it into the HTML ?
<qqCore33> I never dealt with ruby in my life
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<morfin> seems like that's rails app
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<qqCore33> morfin: it should be a html template
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<morfin> it's whole application
<qqCore33> morfin: but I found it on templates site, then I've found out it's open source, but I don't get how do I get the HTML files?
<ghr> Does anyone have any idea how nokogiri parse options work under the hood? https://github.com/sparklemotion/nokogiri/blob/master/lib/nokogiri/xml/parse_options.rb
<ghr> I can see they're constants containing Integers. How do they map to different behaviours?
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<apeiros> ghr: they map to bits in an integer
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<apeiros> say `NOENT | DTDLOAD`, that sets bits 1 and 2, all other bits are not set.
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<morfin> i saw that in libmx
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<morfin> libxml
<morfin> ah it's using libxml2 under the hood :)
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<ghr> ah, so that probably explains why they do it that way
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<morfin> basically as i know libxml2 is C and have defines for options(constants)
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<ruby-lang968> Anyone know any good frameworks (apart from "bourbon neat") to implement grids for user posts?
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<ghr> so does nokogiri then just pass the resulting bit sequence to libxml to say "use these options"?
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<ojss> hello
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<dbford> hi
<apeiros> ghr: I'd have to read the code just like you - but almost certainly yes
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<ghr> apeiros cheers. I have been looking at it, but I found it a bit brain-exploding :)
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<dbford> Hello
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<shevy> semi-off topic; I need to do some screencast of ruby, e. g. typing some commands into a terminal and recording this. Can anyone recommend something that is simple, on linux?
<adaedra> script
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<shevy> script?
<rik> script
<shevy> interesting, haven't seen that before, thanks
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<rik> hm
<rik> anyone played with padrino much?
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<apeiros> ?ask rik
<ruby[bot]> rik: Don't ask to ask. Just ask your question, and if anybody can help, they will likely try to do so.
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<rik> i'm trying to make Padrino connect to sqcipher as the backend database. The problem is that I need to use Sequel's connection_pragmas, and I'm having a hard time figuring out how to tell Padrino how to do this, and I would appreciate an example from someone else who has done this before.
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<rik> google seems to show me that i'm the only one.
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<shevy> hehe
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<ihsw> hi i'm trying to set use_transactional_fixtures to false but i keep getting an undefined method error -- what gives?
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<apeiros> ?rails ihsw
<ruby[bot]> ihsw: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<nofxx> rubygems is out? maintainance?
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<xpt> shevy: there is also wrapper for script, if you are not alergic to language that has snake in logo https://pypi.python.org/pypi/TermRecord/1.1.3
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<floatingpoint> yo. why would I get a "wrong number of arguments (2 for 3)" wen invoking a method if I passed in 3 arguments, and the method signature has a default argument set? signature: def self.files_changed?(first_location, second_location, flags=Hash.new)
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<rik> because your third argument wasn't a hash?
<nofxx> floatingpoint, strange... how you're calling? sure the meth is not getting overwritten?
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<nofxx> or what rik said because you didn't post the insides
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<nofxx> xpt, choosing software by the logo always works
<floatingpoint> rik no third arugment
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<floatingpoint> i think i know what's wrong. thanks nofxx!
<nofxx> a nice precious stone or a disgusting snake? A prankful dolphin or a elephant that never forgets for you data?
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<ytti> 'gem install local_file' is slow for me, due to HTTPS GET stuff it does takes time
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<nofxx> kidding apart, the logo also shows there's love in it. Only exception will be linux, GNU logos... =D
<ytti> is there some commmand line switch to ignore those
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<xpt> nofxx: I know. I use soft with jewels in logo cause they are neat
<ytti> like takes maybe 2min before it starts installing the software
<nofxx> and of course, paid stuff that has same budget for design as for code... but nobody uses paid stuff anyways =D
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<nofxx> ytti, here too.. guess they are updating or fixing
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<zacts> hi rubyists
<ytti> nofxx, as a professinal procrastinator i find this unacceptable, it gives me excuse not to work
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<john__> hello
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<john__> I'm trying to install ruby on mint17 for the first time and I found on the web, that I should install rbev first. I got to some point and got stuck at this:"Modify your ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile.". How do I do that?
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<nofxx> john__, isn't mint archlinux based? you use pacman no?
<john__> nofxx: ubuntu. apt-get.
<tobiasvl> then debian
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<darix> john__: why not use the distro package?
<tobiasvl> john__: how do you edit a text file instead of another text file? what's your question
<nofxx> john__, ah, use the repo than. Way easier than rbenv/ ruby switch stuff
<nofxx> darix, debian: read OUTDATED
<darix> nofxx: bullshit, fud. pick how you want to call it
<darix> mint17 is latest
<nofxx> what's ruby version on it?
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<john__> I never had anything to do with ruby. I found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20088015/installing-ruby-on-rails-on-linux-mint
<nofxx> debian & ubuntu are still 1.9. So, outdated.
<john__> I'm just following what they said.
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<nofxx> john__, dont... just use your package manager
<darix> nofxx: e.g. my distro even ships 2.3 for older distros
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<darix> so *shrug*
<john__> nofxx: just apt-get install ruby?
<nofxx> john__, yup, if it's too old you just add another repo into apt.
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<john__> nofxx: but this is where those people got errors?
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<darix> john__: you should understand what the commands are you doing that you just copy paste from websites
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<john__> darix: I do. But I've never heard about this:"Modify your ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile."
<darix> both are read. but at different stages
<xpt> nofxx: I have 2.3.0p on debian sid
<john__> darix: that was to me?
<nofxx> john__, they are both just files. And you won't need to modify em if you use your package manager.
<nofxx> actually pretty unintuitive, bashrc isn't the file for this. What if I use zsh or whatever.
<nofxx> Even knowing zsh problably reads bashrc too for s*** like this
<john__> nofxx: I get it, now I'm asking out of curiosity. How do I do it?
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<nofxx> do what?
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<john__> nofxx: "Modify your ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile."
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<nofxx> don't get it..... arent you `nano ~/.bashrc` or whatever?
<nofxx> just nano ~/.bash_profile instead... they are files... got it?
<nofxx> just files
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<john__> nofxx: Ok, I missed one thing. I get it now. Thank you.
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<john__> Thanks, bye!
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<PaulePanter> Hi. An OT question, but what is the term for an array with two elements? ["a", 4], for example?
<PaulePanter> two-element array? Sounds strange though.
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<Radar> PaulePanter: why does it sound strange
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<djellemah> PaulePanter: pair, as in Hash#each_pair
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<PaulePanter> djellemah: Thank you!
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<PaulePanter> Hi. I have an array of pairs: [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], …]
<PaulePanter> I want to create from the second value in the pair.
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<PaulePanter> These second values are only present once.
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<eam> PaulePanter: create what?
<apeiros> "I want to create" - I think you accidentally a word
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<PaulePanter> ;-)
<PaulePanter> Either a hash second value => the first value.
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<PaulePanter> Or, as the numbers are uniq, an array, where the position (key(?)) equals the second value and the value the first value.
<adaedra> >> [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2]].map { |k, v| [v, k] }.to_h
<apeiros> your example should become "a" => 0, "z" => 1?
<PaulePanter> ["a", "z", "β", …]
<ruby[bot]> adaedra: # => {0=>"a", 1=>"z", 2=>"β"} (https://eval.in/540616)
<PaulePanter> apeiros: Other way around, `to_h` is not enough.
<eam> apeiros beat me to it, I was going to use .map(&:reverse!)
<apeiros> then what adaedra showed
<adaedra> ah, an Array at the end?
<eam> er, adaedra beat me to it
<apeiros> eam: why reverse! and not reverse?
<eam> I guess reverse is fine huh
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<eam> I! just! got! excited!
<adaedra> PaulePanter: do indexes have possible holes? (i.e. no 4 but a 5)
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<apeiros> you just cannot hide it?
<PaulePanter> Well, maybe that is also the wrong question, and you have even a better idea to my problen.
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<PaulePanter> adaedra: Yeah, there can be wholes.
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<PaulePanter> (It’s unlikely, but possible.)
<adaedra> PaulePanter: I suppose the hash solution above is not what you're looking to?
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<PaulePanter> My original problem is, to easily search for the string in the array of pairs. For example, I have the ID 2, then I want to easily get "
<PaulePanter> β"
<PaulePanter> .
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<adaedra> ah, possible through the hash, but I guess it will be O(n) and no O(1) like a standard Array
<PaulePanter> So I thought using a hash might be the easiest solution. But as I already have that array, maybe a more direct approach is possible.
<PaulePanter> adaedra: Right.
<adaedra> otherwise, it's also possible directly with your existing data
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<adaedra> .find_by { |_, v| v == param }
<PaulePanter> adaedra: The hash solution should be fine though, as there is not a lot of data.
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<PaulePanter> NoMethodError: undefined method `find_by' for #<Array:0x00000005258ed8>
<adaedra> eh.
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<adaedra> >> [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2]].find { |_, v| v == 2 }
<ruby[bot]> adaedra: # => ["β", 2] (https://eval.in/540617)
<adaedra> right
<adaedra> >> [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2]].find { |_, v| v == 2 }.first
<ruby[bot]> adaedra: # => "β" (https://eval.in/540618)
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<adaedra> et voilà.
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<adaedra> I'm sorry, I'm a bit tired.
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<r1nuz> ruby just keeps getting cooler
<PaulePanter> adaedra: Thanks! I wish I could do that when tired. ;-)
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<adaedra> heh.
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<john__> hello again. I followed this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-ruby-on-rails-with-rbenv-on-ubuntu-14-04 and installed ruby. Up to this point "rails -v" everything was fine. Now I'm getting The program 'rails' can be found in the following packages:
<john__> * ruby-railties-3.2
<john__> * ruby-railties-4.0
<john__> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
<john__> after "rails -v....
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<PaulePanter> john__: There is a #RubyOnRails channel.
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<john__> PaulePanter: freenode?
<adaedra> yep.
<john__> thanks
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<PaulePanter> … I cannot find the method `find()`.
<john__> you sure you cannot help? Because I cannot send to the channel.
<adaedra> &ri Array#find
<TheCubeLord> john_: do sudo apt-get install ruby-rails if you need rails
<PaulePanter> adaedra: Thank you.
<adaedra> john__: you need to be registered to talk in #RubyOnRails.
<john__> TheCubeLord: everyone is talking about rbenv?
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<john__> adaedra: I figured :)
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<PaulePanter> >> b = []; [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], ["test", 5]].map { |v, k| b[k] = v }; puts b
<ruby[bot]> PaulePanter: # => a ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540620)
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<PaulePanter> >> [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], ["test", 5]].map { |v, k| b[k] = v }
<ruby[bot]> PaulePanter: # => undefined local variable or method `b' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/540621)
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<PaulePanter> >> b = []; [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], ["test", 5]].map { |v, k| b[k] = v }
<ruby[bot]> PaulePanter: # => ["a", "z", "β", "test"] (https://eval.in/540622)
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<PaulePanter> Sorry.
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<PaulePanter> But, why is test not inserted at position 4 (fifth element)?
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<adaedra> KORBEEEEEN
<PaulePanter> b[4] = "test" works correctly.
<adaedra> Sorry.
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<adaedra> >> b = []; [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], ["test", 5]].map { |v, k| b[k] = v }; b
<ruby[bot]> adaedra: # => ["a", "z", "β", nil, nil, "test"] (https://eval.in/540624)
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<adaedra> You were looking at the result of #map and not b.
<adaedra> Also, if you don't intent to transform element and use the result, it's #each you should use, not #map.
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<PaulePanter> adaedra: Big thank you for your help and comments!
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<adaedra> yw
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<diegoaguilar> hello whats rails channel in freeode?
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<adaedra> ?rails
<ruby[bot]> Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<PaulePanter> Sorry, last question for today.
<PaulePanter> Is there a way, to avoid initializing the empty array?
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<adaedra> you need a starting point I think
<PaulePanter> Ok. I’ll just use that.
<adaedra> eam: maybe you can golf better than me on this one?
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<slash_nick> where's the code?
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<PaulePanter> slash_nick: What code?
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<slash_nick> PaulePanter: exactly
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<PaulePanter> slash_nick: b = []; [["a", 0], ["z", 1], ["β", 2], ["test", 5]].map { |v, k| b[k] = v }
<adaedra> mmh?
<slash_nick> PaulePanter: "Is there a way to avoid initializing the empty array?"... what empty array? where's the code? ah, thanks.
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<zenspider> drbrain: is there a way to make drb do client & server (using drbunix) in the same process? It seems to be bypassing all the marshalling (I'm writing tests and trying to avoid doing system calls)
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<benzrf> PaulePanter: you should probably use each instead of map there
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<benzrf> it draws attention to the fact that you're executing the block for side effects
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<apeiros> wth?
<benzrf> is that at me?
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<drbrain> zenspider: you want loopback drbunix? hrm…
<apeiros> but I think I just got why that's the case
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<zenspider> drbrain: I think we cheated our way out. subclassed my ServerReporter and forced it to do Marshal.load on the payload.
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<zenspider> err... dump. not load
<drbrain> yeah, it bypasses the Marshal because of the DRb.here? check
<zenspider> drbrain: your code looks like it works (and it does), but it isn't actually marshalling. look at with_friend in drb/drb.rb
<zenspider> but since I ONLY want to test that I'm sanitizing the exception objects properly, forcing a dump in a subclass should be sufficient.
<zenspider> it'll require more explanation... but it works
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<mikecmpbll> i've been meaning to play with DRb, looks fun.
<drbrain> mikecmpbll: it is: https://github.com/drbrain/drb-worm
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<drbrain> zenspider: OK
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<mikecmpbll> drbrain : awesome :D
<mikecmpbll> i wrote a ruby program recently that does a lot of stuff by invoking ruby scripts over ssh, i was thinking of trying to use drb instead, i dunno if that even makes sense cus i've only looked at it briefly :'d
<mikecmpbll> writing the communication stuff over ssh was really sucky, so.
<r1nuz> ssh > rpc
<mikecmpbll> k
<drbrain> if you're doing DRb over the internet use SSL with mutual auth
<mikecmpbll> noted.
<drbrain> by mutual auth I mean the client and the server auth each other
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<mikecmpbll> i'll play with it this weekend (4 days, woot)
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<mikecmpbll> drbrain : thanks!
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<kingofcarrotflow> Greetings, I have a question about using Ruby's OpenSSL::SSL::SSLContext, I can get the command line curl equivalent of the command to work fine but not the ruby version. Am I doing something incorrect with the context settings? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/11201fa1fdbf007110d5
<kingofcarrotflow> When I make a request with Ruby the server returns and error that the ssl certificate was not sent
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<drbrain> kingofcarrotflow: I think you need to ctx.cert = too
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* TheCubeLord has the thought that one day the mouse would get the cheese makes him feel determined
<TheCubeLord> Undertale Reference
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* TheCubeLord stays determined
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<baweaver> TheCubeLord: cross posting #freenode?
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<RickHull> off topic cross posting double whammy?
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<shevy> WHO IS THE EVIL CROSSDRESSER
<shevy> I mean poster
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<mikecmpbll> lol
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<riceandbeans> what's the best way to do a negative include?
<riceandbeans> variable.include? 'stuff' but I want the inverse
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<riceandbeans> if variable.include? 'stuff' false
<riceandbeans> I mean, I could do true unless variable.include? 'stuff'; true
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<riceandbeans> err
<riceandbeans> return true unless variable.include? 'stuff'; false
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<riceandbeans> but it feels like I can write that neater
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<drbrain> unless variable.include 'stuff'
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<Ox0dea> array.none? 'stuff'
<havenwood> Ox0dea: A certain PR needs merging first...
<Dysp> Hi there. I cannot get the button to update the textbox. Help a newb. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b4d2475eebbf2ab9fe3
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<Ox0dea> havenwood: I was trying to be stealthy. ;)
<havenwood> riceandbeans: In Rails-land there's also an #exclude? method.
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<riceandbeans> havenwood: alas, this isn't rails
<riceandbeans> I don't get why my code isn't working
<riceandbeans> so I'm using mixlib::shellout and getting a string back that contains a blurb
<riceandbeans> it's either a bunch of lines or just one line that pretty much says you have no licenses
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<havenwood> riceandbeans: No `return true`, it's already truthy or falsey. Just: !variable.include? 'stuff'
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<riceandbeans> so............... return true unless foo.stdout.include? 'No licenses'; false
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<havenwood> >> ![].include? 'nope'
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => true (https://eval.in/540698)
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<riceandbeans> so what I typed, when it SHOULD be false, is returning true
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<riceandbeans> but I think the ! may be the easy way out here...
<tobiasvl> riceandbeans: return !foo.stdout.include? 'No licenses'
<tobiasvl> yes like havenwood said
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<riceandbeans> but isn't return then redundant?
<tobiasvl> yes
<tobiasvl> since you were using unless I thought maybe you wanted it in an if clause or something
<tobiasvl> but if it's the final statement in your method it will return it
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<tobiasvl> s/statement/expression I guess
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<anoob> is it possible to define private methods with define_method?
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