<Ox0dea>
baweaver: One clue: it takes a string argument.
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<al2o3-cr>
Ox0dea: you've been doing a lot of them lately
<Ox0dea>
This is the fourth.
<al2o3-cr>
yeeesh
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<al2o3-cr>
easy peasy
<Ox0dea>
al2o3-cr: Really? It is actually kind of obvious if you happen to spot a certain pattern.
<al2o3-cr>
well, you stated the obvious :p
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<Ox0dea>
Nah, none of the others were as "formulaic" as this one.
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<al2o3-cr>
so how long did it take you to come up with this one?
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<al2o3-cr>
must of took a bit of time considering you are not a computer :P
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<Ox0dea>
The original took about five minutes, but I knew I was going to give it to baweaver without providing an example, so I spent some time making it more confusing than necessary. :)
<baweaver>
bugger
<al2o3-cr>
:P
<baweaver>
already halfway through anyways
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<Ox0dea>
baweaver: Do you already know what it does?
<baweaver>
Not sure what $* is but it starts as an empty array at least.
<baweaver>
Not quite
<Ox0dea>
It's a synonym for ARGV.
<al2o3-cr>
baweaver: argv
<baweaver>
ah
<Ox0dea>
I'm glad it didn't prove to be read-only. :)
<al2o3-cr>
$$ current process
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<baweaver>
I know
<al2o3-cr>
k
<al2o3-cr>
baweaver: what $@
<baweaver>
I'm not playing quiz show while solving this
<al2o3-cr>
pfft...
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<baweaver>
Trying to figure out what ?+ is achieving with its friends there
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<Radar>
That could be the literal character "+"
<baweaver>
I want to say it just reverses the string and those are there to be a pain and return nil
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<Aeyrix>
>> 10.times do |That's a fucking mess though.
<ruboto>
Aeyrix # => /tmp/execpad-a9b6f85c95d5/source-a9b6f85c95d5:2: formal argument cannot be a constant ...check link for more (https://eval.in/390755)
<Nilium>
I think you could do print("\n".join("Current fruit: %s" % f for f in ['banana', 'apple', 'mango'])) in python
<sevenseacat>
jesus wtf is that
<Nilium>
I don't remember what the not-politically-volatile string formatting thing in Python is
<Aeyrix>
absolutelydisgusting.jpg
<Ox0dea>
^
<Aeyrix>
We need a bot that takes those and turns them into images.
<Ox0dea>
The keyboard I use doesn't have any numbers or letters on it, so I have to go to great lengths to copy the characters I need when programming in Python.
<Ox0dea>
Ruby, of course does not give me that problem.
<Aeyrix>
lmao
<sevenseacat>
lol
<Nilium>
I see you follow the _why school of keyboarding.
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<Aeyrix>
When Ox does a oneliner it's awesome, when anyone does a Python oneliner it's horrendous.
<Aeyrix>
Also lol mandatory whitespace
<sevenseacat>
i dont mind mandatory whitespace.
<Nilium>
I do, but that's just because I prefer curly braces
<Aeyrix>
Encouraged but not mandatory.
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<Aeyrix>
I can also see why tabs are a good idea.
<Nilium>
I think Python has a flag that lets you use curly braces
<Aeyrix>
It means you can allow people to set their own indentation width.
<Ox0dea>
Nilium: It's a joke.
<Aeyrix>
If someone wants to read a codebase with indentation set to eight spaces, more power to them.
<Nilium>
Ox0dea: Nothing is a joke if I can turn it on
<sevenseacat>
but then people inevitably mix tabs and spaces, and shit goes to hell.
<Ox0dea>
>>> from __future__ import braces
<ruboto>
Ox0dea # => /tmp/execpad-f17f2045b445/source-f17f2045b445:2: syntax error, unexpected '>' ...check link for more (https://eval.in/390757)
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<Ox0dea>
File "<stdin>", line 1
<Ox0dea>
SyntaxError: not a chance
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<Ox0dea>
Sorry.
<Nilium>
Can you catch it?
<Aeyrix>
sevenseacat: There's a git flag for that.
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<Aeyrix>
sevenseacat: Which imo should be default.
<slash_nick>
Aeyrix: can you point me to that?
<Nilium>
Insert my usual praise for gofmt here
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<Ox0dea>
Nilium: It doesn't actually import anything...
<Nilium>
Ox0dea: I'll make it ಠ_ಠ
<Nilium>
If I can give Python people nightmares, it's worth it.
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<jfarmer>
In fact, there wouldn't even be an is_a? method
<jfarmer>
>> BasicObject.new.is_a?(Object)
<ruboto>
jfarmer # => undefined method `is_a?' for #<BasicObject:0x421b4350> (NoMethodError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/390784)
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<Ox0dea>
Well, 2.3 provides BasicObject.instance, which is_a? Object.
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<jfarmer>
what the what
<Ox0dea>
Hm?
* jfarmer
shrugs.
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<jfarmer>
konsolebox Net of it is: every referenceable thing you'll deal with in practice is an instance of Object
<jfarmer>
I feel like if I said "Every object in Ruby is an instance of Object" someone else would've just piped up and said, "Nut uh! What about BasicObject?!?" Haha.
<konsolebox>
jfarmer: i know the deep concepts of Objects and Classes. just forgot about self :)
<jfarmer>
konsolebox Waving security and sandboxing issues aside, when you're evaluating dynamically generated code you want to use something like module_eval
<konsolebox>
jfarmer: i thought so
<jfarmer>
(that's a big wave, too)
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<konsolebox>
jfarmer: first, the application has same level as common userland applications. second it doesn't escalate privileges.
<Ox0dea>
konsolebox: That means it can nerf $HOME.
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<baweaver>
well that killed pry
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<konsolebox>
Ox0dea: well, the user has access to $HOME anyway
<jfarmer>
konsolebox Yeah, if you're "serious" about this you need isolation at other levels, too.
<jfarmer>
As an example...
<konsolebox>
i don't believe much in application-level security
<jfarmer>
For a long time on Heroku, you could do "console.log(system('ps aux'))"
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<jfarmer>
And see a list of other running processes, go ferret around in their code, and so on
<baweaver>
I was going to shim a microlisp into gist and load it
<Ox0dea>
Methinks we could use a few more evaluators around here.
<konsolebox>
irb does eval, should you hate it?
<baweaver>
yes
<baweaver>
pry is better :D
<frenda>
http://stackoverflow.com/a/1665023/2871967 --> Here is told to link /var/lib/gem/1.8/... to the PATH. but in my machin I think gems are installed in ~/.gem folder. How can I add it? It's because I get this error when I'm gong to run `rake db:create db:migrate db:seed`
<frenda>
bash: rake: command not found
<Ox0dea>
frenda: export PATH=~/.gem:$PATH
<Ox0dea>
Put that in your .bash_profile, then logout and log back in.
<jfarmer>
frenda Any time you're reading an answer on the web be sensitive to the date / timestamp
<frenda>
bash_profile or .bashrc! my bash_profile is empty?!
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<jfarmer>
That answer was posted in 2009 and that alone means the risk of the information being wildly incorrect or out of date is very high.
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<Ox0dea>
frenda: You get to un-empty it, then! :)
<snockerton>
in irb, how can I see what objects are instantiated in memory?
<Ox0dea>
frenda: You'll need to go into ~/.gem and figure out the exact path to its bin/ directory, though.
<Ox0dea>
That's the one you'll want to prepend to your $PATH.
<jfarmer>
snockerton There are a lot, so you likely are looking to ask a more specific question. But broadly the ObjectSpace module gives you access to that sort of thing.
<jfarmer>
Having "RubyGems Basics" before "What is a Gem?" haha
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<konsolebox>
so elementary concepts aside, there's no other way to refer to main from a module or another object's context other than by saving it on a global variable or constant?
<Ox0dea>
konsolebox: You may want to reverse the order of the condition if you'll be calling this a lot.
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<Ox0dea>
There are fewer things which #to_s to 'main' than there are Strings, I'm sure.
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<Ox0dea>
Nah, I guess it doesn't matter all that much; main is bound to appear quite early in the list.
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<konsolebox>
Ox0dea: no i'll just need to call it once. i could save it on a class variable. i just don't like running the code somewhere globally, or passing it as an argument to main()
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<SOLDIERz>
tbuehlmann havenwood Yes. I got the following problem. Got a system where I installed multiple ruby version via RPM (CentOS-System) after updating from one ruby tiny version to another so let's say in my example from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2. I got a really weird issue all the time
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<SOLDIERz>
after changing the version with chruby it is bothering me with error while loading shared libraries: libruby.so.2.2 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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<SOLDIERz>
and I don't know why but for some reason chruby is not setting paths correctly
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<konsolebox>
Ox0dea: yes i could use it too, and perhaps use the former method as fall back if it turns out to be still needed
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<Ox0dea>
konsolebox: Either way, I'm happy to have discovered so many alternate ways of obtaining main. :)
<isxek>
I'm using this script to filter for email addresses to include in our blacklist: http://pastebin.com/KPcV75gM . However, after running uniq! on the matches array, the output still shows duplicate values. Any suggestions?
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: You're getting that error with gems you installed on the Ruby before upgrading?
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<shevy>
sphex huh, they have no underscore?
<shevy>
ah no
<SOLDIERz>
havenwood no after upgrading
<shevy>
it's just shift free
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: Show the full error? The command you're running and all?
<shevy>
the traditional keyboards are indeed not really the most intelligent thing... caps lock... how useful is it
<sphex>
shevy: they have easier to type underscores. supposedly the key layout of japanese keyboards matches ruby really well.
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<apeiros>
sphex: got a twitter handle?
<sphex>
nope
<SOLDIERz>
havenwood I'm running: chruby ruby-<%version%> and then it's returning me error while loading shared libraries: libruby.so.2.2 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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<apeiros>
well then, "via sphex on freenode IRC"
<shevy>
sphex yeah that is also good
<sphex>
hehe, alright!
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: So?: chruby ruby-2.2
<SOLDIERz>
yeap
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<isxek>
0x0dea: holy crap, that reduced my script to ~6 lines
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<Ox0dea>
isxek: Erm... not 2?
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<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: Once Ruby 2.2. is selected, same error with: ruby -e "0"
<Ox0dea>
Ah, never mind. Forgot you're printing the results.
<Ox0dea>
isxek: Yes, Ruby is quite expressive. :)
<SOLDIERz>
havenwood correct
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<Ox0dea>
isxek: Hm... it should just be 4 lines, no?
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: So if you don't source chruby same error?
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<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: If you: /path/to/the/ruby -e "0"
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<SOLDIERz>
same
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: Seems like an upstream issue with the Ruby package you're using.
<isxek>
0x0dea: reduced to 4 :)
<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: How are you installing Ruby? Where are the packages from?
<Ox0dea>
isxek: Nice! Probably don't try to go below that, though. :)
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<SOLDIERz>
own build rpms with ruby source
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<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: Yeah, seems not chruby-related.
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<SOLDIERz>
It also worked before just fine but everytime I update RPMs it doesn't work
<isxek>
0x0dea: does ruby still compile that regex, or is there no need for that?
<SOLDIERz>
but the files are there so I don't get it
<isxek>
docs says #new is the same as #compile
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<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: I think I recall folk running into issues with Rubies being moved as part of the RPM process. Look into the `--enable-shared` flag if you're not already using it.
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<havenwood>
SOLDIERz: ^ should create libruby.so and work.
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<Ox0dea>
isxek: ^ Regexp literals are more idiomatic.
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<shevy>
:)
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<isxek>
certainly looks easier to read
<Ox0dea>
isxek: I can't tell if that was sarcasm. :P
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<Ox0dea>
Regexes of any significant size tend to be supremely illegible; how you instantiate them will be the least of your worries.
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<Ox0dea>
Editors tend (or can be made) to highlight regex literals differently than other things, which helps for quickly picking them out.
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<isxek>
Ox0dea: it wasn't sarcasm
<Ox0dea>
Then you are becoming one with The Ruby Way.
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<Ox0dea>
The only time you *might* want to resort to Regexp.new is if you're creating a regex from a dynamically constructed string; even then, interpolating (/#{str}/) is probably more common.
<Ox0dea>
Alas, the style guide has nothing to say on this matter.
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<isxek>
at any rate, thanks for the leg up - i'm off
<SOLDIERz>
havenwood Yeah got that also in my RPM SPEC FILE
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<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Thanks. As for introspection, is there really anything we can't peek into using one or more of ObjectSpace, RubyVM, or the plethora of metaprogramming methods?
<Ox0dea>
But of course.
<apeiros>
RubyVM is not portable
<apeiros>
ObjectSpace is slow
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<apeiros>
BasicObject is a huge issue
<apeiros>
potential method redefinition is a smaller issue
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<zenspider>
you're trying to figure out where a const is defined?
<apeiros>
yes
<apeiros>
wrt Introspection, that's only one thing I'd want, though
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<zenspider>
as in, WHO defines it? or where? or?
<apeiros>
source_location equivalent
<apeiros>
re Introspection: afaik emulating e.g. BasicObject#instance_variables is impossible :-/
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<Ox0dea>
Well, Fiddle probably makes it technically possible, but I wouldn't even know where to begin.
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<apeiros>
RubyVM probably too
<apeiros>
else a native extension might do
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<apeiros>
also I'd love a universal_eval, allowing you to set all the scopes individually (binding, self, constant lookup - and I always forget the 4th, got something to do with how `def` works…)
<Ox0dea>
It'd be interesting if we could assemble RubyVM::InstructionSequences.
<Ox0dea>
zenspider: Is there some way to determine who defines a constant other than ObjectSpace?
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<zenspider>
nope. I got nothing. why do you guys want it?
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: I should perhaps clarify that "but of course" conveys the exact opposite of what I meant to say back there.
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<Ox0dea>
zenspider: For introspecting all the things?
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<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Oh, never mind; I thought you'd asked if I minded. As you were.
<zenspider>
"introspecting" is a tad vague. obviously you can walk all constants all the way down and know their names and values. that IS introspecting.
<zenspider>
I really thought that tracepoint might have something for this, but apparently not
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<Ox0dea>
zenspider: We can't walk constants, though. We have to walk modules.
<zenspider>
modules (and classes) are (usually) bound to a name via a constant
<zenspider>
constants + const_get + recusion == walk
<MrJiks>
Anybody know whats the seed stage of a starup is? Is it when the product is ready or during the idea inception stage?
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<zenspider>
MrJiks: I thought it was once there was enough mass to start nuclear fission & fusion
<Ox0dea>
"They tried to bury us. They didn't know we were seeds."
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<zenspider>
no?
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<Ox0dea>
I admit the quotation was neither timely nor entirely pertinent, but you've got to grant it's pretty Zen.
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<MrJiks>
zenspider: :p
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<zenspider>
hrm... I've got a binding.pry in a module method and when it triggers I'm apparently not in that method. I can't access the locals the way I normally can
<zenspider>
any clue what to do?
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<bhaak>
have you an older version of pry and is your binding.pry on the last line of a block/method?
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<bhaak>
there was a bug when pry stopped _after_ the method returned
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<bhaak>
so you were out of the scope you were expecting. a quick workaround was to add a dummy line after the binding.pry, e.g. a=1
<zenspider>
pry.... umm.... 0.9.12.6
<zenspider>
not in the end of the method. it's right in the middle
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<zenspider>
one of the locals was named step, which caused problems :)
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<bhaak>
ah, yeah, that'll do, too :)
<zenspider>
guess I could update it to 0.10.1
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<zenspider>
still can't see any of the locals
<zenspider>
my prompt is the object's class
<zenspider>
god rails 4 is soooooo slow
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<leeyaa>
hello
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<leeyaa>
trying to build eventmachine on ubuntu 14.04 lts is giving me this error https://bpaste.net/show/f82a7e0009ec any tips what could be the problem ?
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<apeiros>
oh, Ox0dea is offline :(
<apeiros>
zenspider: actually seems to be quite simple to just implement what I want. I guess I'll open an issue this WE on bugs.ruby-lang.org, asking to add that…
<bonhoeffer>
jhass: yeah — so i could write the script easy enough — but wanted to learn how to use ruby like sed
<bonhoeffer>
or like awk — so i don’t have to learn bre and different regex implementations
<bonhoeffer>
and can generally do more with ruby
<jhass>
$stdout.sync = true; ARGF.each_line do |line| puts line if line.match /foo/ end
<bonhoeffer>
cool
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<jhass>
there's things like ruby -ne but meh
<jhass>
and -pe
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<bonhoeffer>
ok — thanks
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<Ox0dea>
bonhoeffer: For what it's worth, `cut -d\| -f2` would have been the saner approach at the shell.
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<bonhoeffer>
good grief — never heard of cut
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<Ox0dea>
You really ought to familiarize yourself with the coreutils.
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<Ox0dea>
Or don't, of course; Ruby is an amazing scripting language.
<Darkwater>
still learn coreutils
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<jhass>
mmh, coreutils hangman...
<Darkwater>
...
<Darkwater>
guess a letter
<jhass>
a
<Darkwater>
...
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<jhass>
e
<apeiros>
ok, so my Introspectable module patch needs rb_str_quote_unprintable - any sane way to get access to that function? it's defined in string.c and copying over the function and all it needs seems insance…
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<apeiros>
but it doesn't seem to be exposed via a header
<Darkwater>
...
<jhass>
i
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<bonhoeffer>
yeah — i want to be able to use ruby instead of coreutils
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: You should just be able to use the QUOTE() macro.
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<jhass>
bonhoeffer: I'm sure shevy has the appropriate aliases to do so
<apeiros>
Ox0dea: oh, you're back
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<apeiros>
Ox0dea: ok, but then I have to modify the functions which atm I only copied over
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<Ox0dea>
Juse use QUOTE() everywhere?
<apeiros>
hm, and I don't actually see where it is invoked? wtf?
<Ox0dea>
It's defined in "internal.h".
<Ox0dea>
jhass: Do you reckon Ruby is powerful enough that coreutils implementations would be short enough to include in aliases?
<jhass>
I reckon that shevy wouldn't care
<Ox0dea>
Ha.
<apeiros>
Ox0dea: so do I copy over internal.h?
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Just #include it.
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<apeiros>
doesn't find it
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<Ox0dea>
Uh-oh.
<apeiros>
isn't quoted include paths relative?
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<Ox0dea>
They try to be.
* apeiros
has weak C foo…
<apeiros>
*fu?
<jhass>
Ox0dea: also -run and -rshell I guess
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<Ox0dea>
apeiros: <foo.h> is used as a fallback in the event "foo.h" can't be found nearby.
<apeiros>
doesn't find it as <internal.h> either
<apeiros>
it does find ruby.h
<apeiros>
well, <ruby.h>
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<Ox0dea>
No, you definitely want the quoted one.
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<apeiros>
and from the makefile, it seems it correctly finds the rvm ruby-2.2.2
<apeiros>
maybe ruby/intern.h ?
<Ox0dea>
Nah, that's a different thing.
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<Ox0dea>
It seems "internal.h" only exists in the source tree; it doesn't get installed as a header. :/
<apeiros>
yupp
<apeiros>
copying it over worked
<apeiros>
but at the point of rb_str_quote_unprintable, I get stuck
<apeiros>
and I think it's actually invoked via QUOTE :)
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<Ox0dea>
They're literally synonymous.
<Darkwater>
is there a shorter way to write array.map{ |n| n[:foobar] } ?
<Ox0dea>
Darkwater: No. :(
<Darkwater>
aw
<Darkwater>
but ok
<Ox0dea>
Wait, I misread.
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<jhass>
Darkwater: you could make your array items e.g. Struct's
<ljarvis>
array.map{|n|n[:foobar]}
<ljarvis>
^ shorter
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<Darkwater>
lol
<Ox0dea>
Darkwater: An array of Hashes, then, right?
<Darkwater>
yeah
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<Ox0dea>
Well, if you made them OpenStructs, you could do array.map(&:foobar).
<Ox0dea>
Overkill, though.
<pontiki>
morning-ish
<Darkwater>
yeah that's not really worth it
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<Darkwater>
oh well
<Ox0dea>
No, it's not.
<ksjdflsjldf>
newbie for ruby, anybody knows how to install shuttle written by square without buying sidekiq pro?
<Ox0dea>
It would be more work for the interpreter to "forget" that it's seen a new variable.
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<lee-jon>
=> nil
<lee-jon>
2.2.2 :031 > var2
<lee-jon>
=> “true”
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<lee-jon>
Yep my bad - not enough coffee
<lee-jon>
=> “true”
<lee-jon>
NameError: undefined local variable or method `var2’ for main:Object
<Mon_Ouie>
Also, this is because the ternary operator doesn't create its own scope, so variables you create inside them still appear in the next statements
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<lee-jon>
Makes sense. And I’m not too sure we’re actually write that. But it surprised me.
<Ox0dea>
Mon_Ouie: Are you sure it's anything to do with scope and not just a byproduct of how much is going on in Ruby's parser?
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<Mon_Ouie>
Yes, constructs that do create their own scope will not "leak" variables like this
<Mon_Ouie>
>> def let; yield; end; let { |x| x = 3 }; x
<ruboto>
Mon_Ouie # => undefined local variable or method `x' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/391056)
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<Ox0dea>
Mon_Ouie: How does that square with the fact that the untaken branch isn't executed?
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<Ox0dea>
You can put all kinds of (syntactically valid) nonsense in the untaken branch, and Ruby will completely ignore it.
<Ox0dea>
So how come the variable definition in the untaken branch there doesn't get the same treatment?
<Mon_Ouie>
What do you mean "doesn't get the same treatment"? Both variables got defined
<Ox0dea>
But the latter shouldn't have been.
<Mon_Ouie>
All the variables that you declare in some scope start existing as soon as you enter that scope
<Ox0dea>
>> 1 ? a = 1 : b; b
<ruboto>
Ox0dea # => undefined local variable or method `b' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/391057)
<jhass>
yes, nothing defines it there
<Mon_Ouie>
You need to assign to a variable for it to be declared
<Ox0dea>
Mon_Ouie: That's definition, not declaration.
<Mon_Ouie>
Otherwise b is parsed as a method call
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<jhass>
Ox0dea: in ruby it's declaration when the code is parsed and definition when it's executed, so both
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<lee-jon>
Makes total sense. Thanks all.
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<DEA7TH>
A thread initializes something and pauses until someone tells it to proceed (they also need to pass extra arguments). How do I implement that in Ruby? I've looked up mutexes, but this needs to work globally / across applications, if possible.
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<DEA7TH>
maybe I'll try File.flock
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<jhass>
that's a bit vague
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<jhass>
what's the something, what's the arguments and what are the applications?
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<DEA7TH>
I have a lot of client applications behind internal IPs and I want to be able to *send* them data, that's why I have them connect to the server and constantly listen for data. There is a thread which receives the connection from the client application, and it must be notified when it's time to reply.
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<jhass>
and who does the notify?
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<DEA7TH>
Some other processes, for example if they want to send something to the client application.
<jhass>
how does that other process input the data to the "server" (or more appropriately "reverse proxy" from what I've gathered)
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<DEA7TH>
they're part of the Rails application. It's an unnecessary detail, but: the purpose of this is to enable someone from the Internet to send commands to an internal IP. When that person connects to the server, it will want to send something to the internal IP, and it will do it by telling my thread to reply. Replying is easy, it's just that those are two separate threads.
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<DEA7TH>
My problem is in telling the other thread to stop waiting and do its work, while also sending it a string.
<DEA7TH>
It must wait until I do that, and I feel that while(true) sleep(1) is not the right thing.
<jhass>
well, there's an important detail not clear from your description
<DEA7TH>
yes?
<jhass>
you're mixing threads and processes
<DEA7TH>
oh. I'm not sure which is which, they are separately started then they must be processes, I think
<jhass>
in one moment you say "other process" in the other you say essentially "thread inside my rails app"
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<jhass>
yes
<DEA7TH>
also neither process is a child of the other, they're independent
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<jhass>
for inter process communication popular communication channels are named pipes, unix sockets or things like Redis
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<jhass>
e.g. the popular Rails background workers Resque & Sidekiq use Redis since that makes it easy to listen to queues
<DEA7TH>
I was hoping I would get away without that. Oh well.
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<workmad3>
DEA7TH: the general term is a communication Channel... and your problem will be that you don't have one :)
<workmad3>
ah, jhass did mention that... but yeah you can't do interprocess communication without a channel...
<DEA7TH>
oh well, then I'll research and implement it.
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<DEA7TH>
Could that work if both processes are activated by web requests to the same Rails application?
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<jhass>
oh, I should highlight the Redis approach has the benefit of being able to have multiple processes consume and push to the queue
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<jhass>
"that"?
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<DEA7TH>
i.e. first request happens, Rails application pauses (first requester waits for response), second request happens and then the first request is responded to.
<jhass>
ah
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<jhass>
you'll run into timeouts and scaling issues with the common rails application servers there
<DEA7TH>
I mean the response waits, the app is still running
<workmad3>
DEA7TH: you could do that... but it would be much easier conceptually and problem implementation-wise to just use a message queue to have a proper communication channel
<workmad3>
s/problem/probably
<DEA7TH>
would that require an additional application, other than Rails?
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<jhass>
DEA7TH: though sounds like you want something that's commonly solved via web sockets these days, a permanent two way communication channel between the browser and the backend
<DEA7TH>
I'm using AWS, and setting up multiple things might require some work
<DEA7TH>
well I did use sockets
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<jhass>
if that's the case a google for "Rails websockets" should get you some premade solutions and designs
<DEA7TH>
alongside my Rails app? awesome
<workmad3>
DEA7TH: tbh, looking back at your original statement of what you're doing, it sounds like you're trying to re-implement socket tunnels
* DEA7TH
thought it would be harder than that
<Kully3xf>
what should I use if I want to make a list of valid choices
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<Kully3xf>
I have it in python but IDK in ruby
<DEA7TH>
workmad3: I'm not sure what is that, but does it transmit an unprocessed message to the internal IP, from the external user? I don't want that; I want to process it first.
<wasamasa>
Kully3xf: you want a set?
<Kully3xf>
yes
<wasamasa>
require 'set'
<Kully3xf>
cool thanks
<workmad3>
DEA7TH: fair enough... there are probably many solutions out there that handle that particular aspect as well, but I don't know what they are :)
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<deviantony>
plop
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<jhass>
DEA7TH: I have to agree with workmad3, you're most likely reinventing something here, not sure what it is exactly though
<jhass>
perhaps AMQP though I think that sucks as actual data transport
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<deviantony>
is there an easy way to extract the first elements of an IP address?
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<Ox0dea>
deviantony: ip.split('.').first(2)
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<deviantony>
such as extract 10.10.10. from 10.10.10.124
<Ox0dea>
deviantony: ip.split('.').first(3)
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<jhass>
IPAddr from ipaddr stdlib for some more complete handling
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<slash_nick>
jhass: were you saying "convert it to ipv4 then split it?
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<Toska>
momomomomo: Did you even look at the pastie?
<jhass>
slash_nick: no, that's a ipv6 mapped v4 address
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<momomomomo>
Toska: of course not, you didn't ask your question or explain your situation here
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<shevy>
jhass hmm, aliases alone wouldn't help much, one would need to have the equivalent functionality via ruby tools available as well, and that's quite hard to do. I don't know of any project that, for instance, copies all options of "ls"
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<Toska>
Would anyone besides momomomomo be able to explain the best approach for the problem here: http://pastie.org/10269984 ?
<canton7>
Toska, not if you don't explain what you're trying to do
<momomomomo>
Toska: You might consider checking out the link I sent you
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<shevy>
Toska you are using a class var there though right?
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<slash_nick>
Toska: i'm with momomomomo ... i see your code, but what do you expect?
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<canton7>
"subclass class instance" - nowhere do you assign any subclass instances
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<momomomomo>
*and these are people who actually looked at the pastie*
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<Toska>
The question is right in the pastie.
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<canton7>
it may be "right", but that doesn't mean it makes any sense to someone who's not in your head
<shevy>
"subclass class instance"
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<Toska>
All of the sudden I remember why I hate IRC. Have fun high up on your horses. Sorry it's so much work to click a link with like 6 lines of code.
<canton7>
just because you can understand your own question, doesn't mean that a few token words are enough to convey that information to anyone else..
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<shevy>
a powerleaver!
<canton7>
he really didn't get the point, did he?
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<Toska>
canton7: It's not about the question, it's about the shitty attitudes in general.
<Ox0dea>
/ignore add Toska
<Ox0dea>
Whoops.
<Toska>
I mispoke in the patie, that's my bad.
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<canton7>
Toska, we're simply telling you that you haven't explained yourself well enough
<Toska>
I want to be able to access the class variable in the subclass from the parent class.
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<Toska>
Or the subclass rather.
<Toska>
So TestB.get_attr
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<Toska>
Should return 'testb'
<Toska>
Ox0dea: Please do.
<canton7>
oh! nowhere did it say that in your pastie
<jhass>
Toska: don't use class variables, use class level instance variables then
<manveru>
the best way to use class variables: don't
<canton7>
you said Base.get_attr
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<Toska>
canton7: I said I mispoke
<Toska>
The only way I can see, is to replace the class variable with a method that returns 'testb'
<Toska>
But it seems hacky.
<sevenseacat>
but instead of apologizing for insulting everyone when it was actually you misspeaking
* canton7
resists the temptation to make a snide comment about high horses :P
<jhass>
Toska: if you could do that, it's a CONSTANT
<jhass>
self.class::CONSTANT
<Toska>
Hmmm
<jhass>
which kinda leads to
<shevy>
Toska yeah, a constant; or a variable like @foo on your class, and a method to access that; class Foo; @foo = 5; def self.foo?; @foo; end; end; Foo.foo?
<jhass>
?fake
<ruboto>
Please show your real code to illustrate your problem. Using fake code often hides it or won't bring up the best possible solution.
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<Toska>
ruboto: This isn't a problem I am unable to solve, I was just curious what others though.
<Toska>
I think jhass is correct, it's better served at a constant.
<shevy>
ruboto is a bot
<jhass>
?ruboto
<ruboto>
I'm the channel bot, linker of the rules, adept of the facts, wielder of the banhammer.
<Toska>
ffs
<shevy>
haha
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<Toska>
Anyway, thanks for taking a brief moment to look at the pastie.
<jhass>
no idea what the heck you were getting at from the code
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<momomomomo>
it's about trying to help you ask a question that let's us help you
<canton7>
Toska, I looked at the pastie, and I didn't understand it. That's why I asked you further questions
<shevy>
yeah, we have to differ
<shevy>
some were riding on the high horses, others looked at the pastie!
<Toska>
momomomomo: You didn't even click on it, for all you know I had ever bit documented with a thesis at the top. You assumed. I have read your cod many times before, I suggest you click a link before jumping to conclusions about how little information is given.
<canton7>
Toska, everyone who talked to you did so after looking at the pastie, and not understanding what you were getting at
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<canton7>
Toska, I'm willing to bet he did
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<momomomomo>
no, I didn't assume. I refuse to click on something without you asking the channel (i.e. people) directly your question first
<sevenseacat>
Toska: let's turn down the entitlement a little
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<Toska>
canton7: he literally said he didn't I don't mind follow up questions on those who did.
<sevenseacat>
just a little, please.
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<Toska>
canton7: In fact they are very expected.
<momomomomo>
"Hey, I'm wondering how to do this, and I have this code which does X. I think the Z part is doing Y and I'm wondering how to get it to do B. Code is here with comments and explanation: "
<momomomomo>
that's a good question
<sevenseacat>
we're all here to help each other.
<shevy>
momomomomo I could not answer that question you just asked
<momomomomo>
shevy: that's because you haven't had your coffee yet
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<shevy>
the next pastie that Toska will do, will be a better one
<failshell>
in a long running process, i want to stop execution of methods down the chain. exit/abort will make the process exit. return doesn't work. how should i go about doing that/
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<judofyr>
failshell: raise an exception and catch it somewhere else.
<judofyr>
manveru: one does not simply class variables
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<failshell>
judofyr: thanks
<jhass>
^ but smells like control flow, maybe there's a way to restructure your code
<judofyr>
the smell of control flow!
<sevenseacat>
exceptions are not for control flow
<Ox0dea>
Watch me.
<shevy>
judofyr huh, manveru?
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<shevy>
oh wait now I see it
<shevy>
he was awake!
<manveru>
i'm always awake
<failshell>
in my case, it makes sense though. its commands that run with mixlib/shellout. so raising an error does make sense
<sevenseacat>
context is a wonderful thing
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<judofyr>
shevy: I'm just a slow replyer
<shevy>
this is one wise cat
<manveru>
but hey, who can resist making snide remarks about class variables... they're probably the least useful feature in ruby next to flip flops
<judofyr>
I love flip flops
<jhass>
failshell: so it's not the common case? your program or infrastructure is broken if it enters that case?
<shevy>
are flip flops like sandals?
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<sevenseacat>
i like wearing flipflops.
* judofyr
looks for the fizzbuzz flip flop
<Ox0dea>
That was pretty impressive.
<failshell>
jhass: its a chatbot handling deployments. if one of the commands sent to system() fail i just want the execution to stop. there's no poing in going further. so raising sounds like a good idea
<judofyr>
modifying variables inside a flip-flop is crazy
<judofyr>
it's like a state hidden inside a state hidden inside a cookie
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<shevy>
cool
<shevy>
a cookie
<jhass>
mmh, but we all like cookies
<shevy>
a monad cookie
<shevy>
with stuff hidden inside - maybe
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<Ox0dea>
Just Maybe?
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<judofyr>
>> a=(1..30).select{|x|true unless (a = !a) .. (a = !a)}
<Toska>
shevy: Actually this constant doesn't make sense now that I look at it, TESTVAR isn't assigned in Base, so the subclass can't see it: http://pastie.org/private/yysaux6djugdvfxi3higbq And I am back to how it would normally work: http://pastie.org/private/esf4jg9a3qd0ndclrymw I just feel like this is really the wrong way of doing it. Basically I want a shared method in Base to access non-shared 'settings' in the subclass.
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<shevy>
well, if it is a constant, you can scope to it anyway through NameOfConstantOne::NAME_OF_THAT_OTHER_CONSTANT_HERE
<jhass>
Toska: self.class::FOO
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<shevy>
jhass also used the :: there as you can see Toska
<jhass>
or actually just self::FOO in the class var case
<Toska>
But then wouldn't I need to explicitly say in baseclass TestA::TESTVAR
<Toska>
I want it to know which constant based on the subclass it is called from
<jhass>
Toska: but let me repeat: you're making a generalization where there's none. The best solution depends on the case at hand
<Toska>
Alright hold on.
<shevy>
well in your current example, you have two different constants anyway; one in TestA, the other in TestB
<izzol>
Hmm, my code is doing the job really slow :( Basicialy it's parsing e-mail and looks for encrypted or password protected files. It works ok but slow. When I send 100 e-mails the load is going really high. There is anything that I can improve? (https://gist.github.com/wolfedale/cb670d99d1df97d6da77) :(
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<judofyr>
constant inheritance is really tricky
<judofyr>
s/really/surprisingly/
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<howardg>
good day. does anyone know how to compare two hashes, disregard the order of keys?
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<jhass>
howardg: Hash#==
<ljarvis>
howardg: hashes aren't ordered, hence ^
<howardg>
oh that's weird
<ljarvis>
and if anyone mentions 1.9 I will kick
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<Toska>
jhass: I have this class: http://pastie.org/private/7gzvlnnrlcg26oua5unsg and this class: http://pastie.org/private/riptpsuoj41hghslorg6q They do nearly identical things, I want to have a base class they inherit from to share functionality. The main thing, is I want to define the @@stop_key in the two subclasses, and have a method in the base class for self.stop that knows the subclasses stop key.
<judofyr>
fair point inkjet
<shevy>
Toska also when subclassing, I think you'll only subclass for the instance methods or? e. g. the class variable variant that you use in your code, class Base; def self.get_attr, won't be automatically available via TestB.get_attr
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<shevy>
at least I get an error with the current code
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<judofyr>
my favorite class variable "feature":
<judofyr>
>> class F; @a = 1; end; class Object; @a = 2; end; class F; p @a; end
<slash_nick>
I'm back! sorry, fell off my high horse
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<Kully3xf_>
can someone explain these variable types real quick - :hn => 'hostname'
<shevy>
yeah judofyr
<Toska>
slash_nick: Oh you are so funny.
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<Kully3xf_>
what kind of variable is that
<shevy>
I was wondering... you were hiding the class variable there
<shevy>
then I realized... there was no class variable!!!
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<slash_nick>
oh hey Toska... did you get all sorted out?
<judofyr>
Kully3xf_: it's not a variable. it's a Hash.
<Kully3xf_>
oh
<Toska>
slash_nick: Yeah I just did.
<jhass>
Toska: my guts tell me there's a way to make the whole thing proper classes and instances, so you'd have import = StoppableImport.new(FactSet::Import::Tracker::Company, 'company'), import.queue, import.stop etc
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<Kully3xf_>
why would I use that instead of a variable
<judofyr>
Kully3xf_: foo(:bar => 123) is the same as foo({:bar => 123})
<shevy>
huh
<shevy>
StoppableImport ...
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<jhass>
Toska: but given your examples are modules that inherit...
<judofyr>
Kully3xf_: it's often used when you have many (optional) parameters.
<jhass>
(= invalid ruby)
<judofyr>
Kully3xf_: also, many Rubyists like them because it makes code easier to read
<Toska>
slash_nick: I hope you broke your neck. jhass, shevy, thanks you guys, I am just going to refactor the whole thing, I think it needs attention anyway.
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<judofyr>
Kully3xf_: e.g: render :file => "foo"
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<judofyr>
Toska: you can't really use class variables in this case. they should be called "class hierarchy variables". in a single hierarchy there is only one variable with a given name.
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<judofyr>
oh
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<judofyr>
bye bye
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<judofyr>
guess you'll never know the secrets of the class variable :(
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<judofyr>
it's better this way anyway
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<shevy>
class variables are just weird
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<judofyr>
not classy at all
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<shevy>
I once had a bug because of a class variable; when I discovered the bug eventually, I wondered why I was using them in the first place
<jhass>
well if you look at the last couple of pasties, that must be a horrible system to work with
<jhass>
hidden global state everywhere
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<sevenseacat>
if Toska comes back, I'd like to propose kicking them out for telling someone to go break their neck
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<judofyr>
"jhass: hidden global state everywhere" <- you just described Rails (hence 95% of all Ruby applications)
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<jhass>
heh
<jhass>
I guess, but still
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* slash_nick
facepalms
<shevy>
ok
<shevy>
first judofyr now slash_nick
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<shevy>
PEOPLE CAN NOT SEE THE INVISIBLE @@!
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<judofyr>
see what?
<shevy>
lol
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<judofyr>
hi charliesome
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<shevy>
ohhh charlie!
<jhass>
slash_nick: include NormalCreditBalance I guess
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<slash_nick>
shevy: so that's not a class variable... what is that called?
<jhass>
and if that's really a @@class_var behind the scenes it's not doing what you want anyway
<shevy>
well a class method that one is I would say
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<shevy>
but apeiros calls them differently
<jhass>
slash_nick: I usually call it class level instance variable
<shevy>
so I am confused
<judofyr>
I hope it's backed by a instance variable
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<judofyr>
(at the class level)
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<shevy>
the ultimate answer can always be provided by looking at how the C source calls those things :)
<slash_nick>
... i think it *is* a class method...
<shevy>
wait with the final verdict until apeiros comments!
<jhass>
slash_nick: well, technically there isn't even such a thing as class methods, that's something purely conceptual in Ruby
<shevy>
see? things just become more complicated
<slash_nick>
"it works, it's magic, leave it!"
<judofyr>
there's actually not a concept of "methods" in Ruby
<shevy>
classes are objects, aren't they?
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<judofyr>
Ruby just is
<judofyr>
floating around
<jhass>
like hot air
<shevy>
well, we have module_function right? so ... these aren't methods, they are functions!
<judofyr>
classes are objects. objects are instances of classes. everything is just fine.
<shevy>
the circle is a square
<jhass>
let's make chunky bacon
<shevy>
the schroedinger cat is alive
<judofyr>
and it inherits from a rectangle
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<shevy>
jhass what about the vegetarians
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* slash_nick
sticks the cat back in pandora's box
<slash_nick>
not sure what's what anymore
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<jhass>
shevy: don't be so caught in your definition of bacon
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<ljarvis>
mm bacon
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<judofyr>
you could *kinda* say that class methods are a specific thing. I mean, actually it's just because singleton classes of classes are tied up in a specific way, but the reason they are structured like that is because of class methods.
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<charliesome>
hey judofyr
<judofyr>
long time no IRC (mostly for me I guess)
<shevy>
singletons mhmhmh
<shevy>
slash_nick now there is another concept now!
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<charliesome>
judofyr: yeah! I've mostly just been idling myself
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<judofyr>
charliesome: doing anything interesting these days? enjoying the summer in front of a bright screen? :)
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<apeiros>
mhm, sadly. I'd prefer the syntax to be explicit.
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<Ox0dea>
Fair enough. I wonder if Ruby'll ever get destructuring for anything but arrays.
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<apeiros>
Ox0dea: btw., do you have any idea on my Introspectable issue?
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<Ox0dea>
I think compiling your own Ruby would make for significantly fewer headaches. :/
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<apeiros>
hrm. lets see then.
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<apeiros>
cp -R rvm ruby, then ./configure, then make - that should be it, right?
<Ox0dea>
It's weird that they didn't figure extensions would ever need to include "internal.h".
<apeiros>
probably considered it bad
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<apeiros>
i.e. "use the proper ways"
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<NickSpeare>
hey everybody, i'm trying to figure out how to use classes properly. anybody willing to look at a simple error and help me fix ? http://pastebin.com/ieGdaydB
<DEA7TH>
I get DRb::DRbConnError: connection closed when I try to call a method on the object I get via DRb
<Ox0dea>
NickSpeare: You create a Thing class when you're going to be making several Things. Modules are just umbrellas under which to put closely related code.
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<Ox0dea>
NickSpeare: Enlightenment is knowing when the two should be used in conjunction.
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<NickSpeare>
Ox0dea: thanks for the advice. I will rework what I'm doing...
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<apeiros>
Kully3xf: um, what?
<apeiros>
?context Kully3xf
<ruboto>
Kully3xf, Please add more context to your question, what are you doing, why are you doing it, which libraries are involved. Post some code to gist if it clarifies your question.
<Kully3xf>
I am threading the creation of EC2 instances - each instance needs a name. the name was originally store in a hash called :hn as such :hn => 'hostname'
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<Kully3xf>
now I have a prompt so it's a variable, name and :hn => name,
<Kully3xf>
then when the command runs to create the ec2 - it should be name + i.to_s
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<Kully3xf>
and it works if it's a string, i.e. :hn => 'hostname'+i.to_s and print #{instance[:hn] will print hostname1 hostname2 hostname 3 etc
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<Kully3xf>
but if I do it as a passed variable it prints hostname *new line 1 hostname *new line 2 etc
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<Kully3xf>
but that will - but it won't be dynamic. user input is ignored
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<apeiros>
ok, definitively too hot to make sense of all that
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<apeiros>
it *seems* to me like you're asking a question which has absolutely nothing to do with EC2, and only with how puts & string literals work
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<Kully3xf>
yea the ec2 is just what's being done w/in the code
<Kully3xf>
I just don't understand why :hn => 'string'+i.to_s works and :hn = variable+i.to_s doesn't
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<Takumo>
Hi all, I'm building an API with Grape, but some some reason my request is being rejected as invalid and I can't actually work out why... because its on an optional String parameter....
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<jhass>
Kully3xf: gets.chomp
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<Kully3xf>
omg
<Kully3xf>
lol thank you
<Kully3xf>
works! that was frustrating
<Kully3xf>
very appreciated!
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<jhass>
Kully3xf: now read up on what chomp does and tell me why you need it
<Takumo>
chomp chomp chomp
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<Kully3xf>
ah it reads the
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<Kully3xf>
"enter" as a char
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<Takumo>
gotta love those pesky control characters
<jhass>
well, enter produces a newline and you get that returned
<Kully3xf>
interesting.
<Kully3xf>
only second day with ruby so still so much to learn
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<Takumo>
It's also a programming thing, happens in all languages :)
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<yorickpeterse>
You'll never stop learning
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<yorickpeterse>
If you do something is wrong
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<Takumo>
or you've managed to memorise wikipedia.
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<pfish>
So I am building ruby from source to add in some support for a library and whenever I add a line into init.c tcltk give me an error saying it cant find rubysig.h
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<pfish>
is tcltk needed?
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<shevy>
pfish it is an add-on so you don't need it
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<pfish>
ok
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<pfish>
the worst part is if i build wihtout the line and then rebuild without cleaning it works perfectly fine'
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<pfish>
but thanks
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<shevy>
pfish yeah, the extensions are sometimes a bit strange, I have the very same problem you describe here for openssl
<shevy>
the extensions are typically in ext/ subdirectory, so in case of tk, in ext/tk - there you can rebuild the addon lateron, usually it works (for readline for instance; did not work for me with openssl)
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<shevy>
I have not tried tk in ages though, I am using ruby-gnome :)
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<pfish>
im seriously considering just deleting it lol. this is the weirdest error.
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<dudedudeman>
so I have a if/elsif/else statement that is looking for the words yes or no, and it goes through my statements like expected and puts out a result for me based off of whether or not yes or no is the given input. how would i make it continue to loop until i get a yes or no answer?
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<dudedudeman>
would that just be thrown in to a for loop?
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<eam>
while input != "yes"; input = STDIN.gets.chomp; if ....; end
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: This program never terminates.
<dudedudeman>
yeah i just noticed that...
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<dudedudeman>
hmm
<Ox0dea>
Rather, it has the potential to not if the user never says "yes".
<dudedudeman>
that's where the break comes in
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<dudedudeman>
rather, i'd think that's where a break would come in
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<havenwood>
This is the code that never ends 'cause it goes on and on my friend... some people started coding it not knowing what it was. And not it goes forever just because. This is the code that never ends.
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Well, you'll need one for both the "yes" and the "no" clause given the current structure of the code.
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<slash_nick>
Ox0dea: what are the odds the user never says "yes" ;)
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<Ox0dea>
slash_nick: I see what you did there.
<dudedudeman>
those odds could be high
<dudedudeman>
lol
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<Kully3xf>
how can I make a very long set in ruby on more than one line
<slash_nick>
captive audience
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<Ox0dea>
Kully3xf: Just put a newline after a comma.
<Kully3xf>
ok thanks
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<Ox0dea>
Kully3xf: Can't you also do that in Python?
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<Kully3xf>
nah in python just put the , and go to new line
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<Ox0dea>
...
<havenwood>
Kully3xf: So you have one line you want to break out into many?
<havenwood>
Kully3xf: Show the code?
<dudedudeman>
shevy: it's true. a case statement might be better here
<dudedudeman>
i just want to ask him for yes or no and the program not terminate until he answers one way or the other
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: You only have three branches; that's a little early to switch to case, in my opinion.
<dudedudeman>
he could type in a;sdlkjf;asdk and it would just keep asking for yes or no
<dudedudeman>
for this case, i was just trying to ask the guy that's been mentoring me here at work if he could meet today. lol. when i could havej ust gone, hey, you free? lol
<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea: now THAT is pretty
<Ox0dea>
^_^
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<Ox0dea>
It's just a skeleton, of course, but I think it demonstrates the beginnings of "separation of concerns" quite well.
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<cubicool>
Is there a way for me to use eval() and have any variables declared therein appear in the surrounding scope?
<cubicool>
eval('x = 10') and then reference the symbol 'x' later?
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<shevy>
cubicool hmm; I think you can somehow attach a binding object
<Ox0dea>
But... why?
<cubicool>
Lets call it academic. :)
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<Ox0dea>
cubicool: Well, you do indeed have to do all the evaluation inside a separate binding.
<shevy>
\o/
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<Ox0dea>
>> b = binding; b.eval('foo = 1'); b.eval('foo')
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: I think it looks great! Did you notice, though, that shevy's approach handled variation in the responses?
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<dudedudeman>
i did
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<dudedudeman>
"yes", "y"
<dudedudeman>
"q"
<havenwood>
dudedudeman: If you haven't tried it yet you could capture a keypress of 'y' / 'Y' or 'n' / 'N' with: require 'io/console'; STDIN.getch
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<shevy>
lazy one letter typing!
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<shevy>
havenwood is even lazier
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Do you reckon you'd be able to add that feature?
<shevy>
he optimized the return-key away
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<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea: i reckon!
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<dudedudeman>
i leave for lunch in 9 minutes! lemme pluck away at that
<Ox0dea>
Godspeed!
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<dudedudeman>
berfore i start, i will ask this. can i implement the above without touching the handle_yes/no methods?
<iateadonut>
when you're in irb from rails, is there a way to reload so that you can use your new methods but not exit the irb so you still have you history?
<Ox0dea>
Absolutely.
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<shevy>
dudedudeman your methods stay safe as they are; you can think of your loop as an empty plugin-handler, you push in your methods to handle the plugin
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<havenwood>
iateadonut: Like `reload!`? The best place for Rails console questions is the #RubyOnRails channel.
<dudedudeman>
mmmm. my mind hurts. but i like it. it hurts so good
<shevy>
the dudedudeman ateadonut
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<shevy>
iateadonut I'd also like to know if there is a simple way for that in irb, I don't know if there is one myself
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<dudedudeman>
no! no donuts for me. i'm down like 32 pounds!
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Think about it, though. It would be quite easy to add a response to "maybe", would it not?
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<dudedudeman>
i would htink so
<shevy>
dudedudeman wow, no kidding? 32 pounds? that's damn impressive... I keep on falling back to what I manage to cut down
<dudedudeman>
shevy: yeah! started this journey at 300pounds
<dudedudeman>
i'm 6'2 ish, so no one really believed me that i was that much, but i stepped on a scale and was like, "it is time"
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<dudedudeman>
and Ox0dea, i'm going to chew on that. i'm headed to lunch with the mentor here at work! i'll get to pick his brain about this, too :)
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<xxneolithicxx>
shevy: theres always a way! now what are we talking about? lol
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<shevy>
xxneolithicxx cubicool wondered how to pass around eval-ed data
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<xxneolithicxx>
err ya got me, i only used bindings in a few places and havent bothered to gone back to read its magic
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<shevy>
same here actually
<xxneolithicxx>
if you want to see some really interesting use of it, read through vagrant codebase. the whole thing is basically nested binding hell lol
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<xxneolithicxx>
or at least i think it was binding, havent read it in a while
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<shevy>
that scares me
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<benlieb>
At work I’ve been doing ruby / rails / ember projects exclusively, but am now being encouraged to take on some Java-related things. I love ruby / rails and frontend, but java is really unpleasant for me to work with. What’s the general sense of where java is with respect to future “value” in a developer’s career?
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<corecode>
hi
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<eam>
benlieb: it's hugely entrenched in application middleware, and android
<corecode>
what would be the quickest way to display some pixel data on X? use some ruby sdl layer?
<Senjai>
benlieb: Just stick to waht you enjoy
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<Senjai>
corecode: Not related to ruby
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<eam>
corecode: yeah. Last time I wanted to do some graphics gosu worked the best
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<benlieb>
Senjai: I would prefer that, but that might create a bit of team tension. Part of my resistance is feeling that java is on its way “out”, at least for web app dev. But I could be wrong. It’s hard to feel the pulse of that kind of thing.
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<benlieb>
I would rather be a ruby dev
<benlieb>
I guess my “ruby
<benlieb>
oops
<Senjai>
benlieb: Your team is adopting java FROM ruby?
<bricker>
benlieb: java is alive and well, let me assure you
<Senjai>
benlieb: ^, it's also pointless to use it unless you need to use it
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<benlieb>
I guess my “ruby-related” question is, is it reasonable to greatly prefer ruby over java in terms of future-proofing my career?
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<Senjai>
benlieb: You future proof your career by not being dumb, and learning how to solve problems
<Senjai>
benlieb: Languages can be picked up in a week
<Senjai>
benlieb: Knowing a language != software engineering
<Senjai>
benlieb: You need to know enough to pick the right tool, and the right tool may not be a language you currently know, and that shouldn't matter
<jhass>
the more languages and toolkits you know, the quicker you can adapt to new ones and the more your general work benefits. Doesn't get more future proof than that
<shevy>
I used it in the past to write randomly coloured text anywhere on the screen
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<shevy>
anyone can recommend a specific library for this: "given a colour x, such as "slateblue", find a slightly lighter colour" - I need it for on-hover effects in a GUI
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<ytti>
shevy, wouldn't it be sufficient just to add 1 to every number in hex code?
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<shevy>
ytti dunno, probably
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<shevy>
I guess I should just write exactly a gem that does that and nothing more :)
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<bhorn1>
hey guys quick question about gtk3 in ruby. Is there any built in functions similar to the card layout in java swing that will allow me to easily hide one widget while displaying another at the push of a button?
<Mon_Ouie>
If you have something that's just half-red, adding to all components will also make it somewhat blue and somewhat red, i.e. change the hue
<Mon_Ouie>
You probably want to change luminance alone
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<ytti>
shevy, ummm
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<ytti>
shevy, 0xabcdef + 0x111111
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<ytti>
shevy, bit short code for gem
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
so my red becomes bluish
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<ytti>
why?
<Mon_Ouie>
somewhat blue and somewhat green (and still mostly red)* is what I meant to say
<ytti>
each of the colour gets up the same amount
<ytti>
i.e. it becomes 'lighter'
<Mon_Ouie>
#7F0000 + #010101 => you used to have 0 green and 0 blue, now you have some green and some blue
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<Mon_Ouie>
Multiplying all components by something that's greater than 1 one would work
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<rubynewbie123>
im trying to hit an api endpoint which uses windows integrated authentication. How do I pass AD creds with Ruby gem?
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<pfish>
Does anyone know how to add a test to the tests ruby does when make test is executed?
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<rubynewbie123>
im trying to hit an api endpoint which uses windows integrated authentication. How do I pass AD creds with Ruby gem?\
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<ddv>
rubynewbie123, stop repeating yourself
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<rubynewbie123>
ddv: no one is responding
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<ddv>
rubynewbie123, so?
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<shevy>
lol
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<ljarvis>
rubynewbie123: repeating yourself isn't going to make people respond quicker. It's spamming and you'll be kicked from the channel if you continue. Please wait for a response
<shevy>
rubynewbie123 not many here do use windows
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<shevy>
haha
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
I am looking at this code:
<shevy>
def init; puts "","",""
<shevy>
does anyone happen to know why the author used that?
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<Ox0dea>
shevy: Is there a better way to output three blank lines?
<yorickpeterse>
shevy: because they drunk
<Ox0dea>
Derp. "\n\n\n"
<shevy>
well "better"
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<shevy>
I think it is the first time that I see puts "","",""
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<shevy>
you know how things are when you look at something for the first time in your life
<shevy>
like perl code!
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<sphex>
TTY box-drawing is a mess. some programs assume the encoding is CP437-like. some use the Unicode code points. and some use the ACS (alternate character set) feature of curses (which looks like a good idea, but doesn't seem to work quite right with all terminals).
<Tarkers34>
so are string the only data classes that can have bang methods? And do they use the .replace() method to make their inplace change? Because it seems to me like it it's impossible to extend the symbol class with a bang methof :)
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<Tarkers34>
:hello.to_s! # impossible! (right)
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<shevy>
it's pretty cool... this here is a checkbox: puts "\e[32m\342\234\224\e[0m"
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<apeiros>
no, strings are not the only
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<apeiros>
Tarkers34: bang methods (usually) are methods which mutate the object
<apeiros>
so usually only mutable objects have bang methods
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<Ox0dea>
Tarkers34: There are many ways other than #replace to mutate a String.
<apeiros>
nothing actually stops you from adding a method called to_s! to Symbol. but it'd just be misleading as it can't ever do what its name implies.
<Ox0dea>
apeiros: Fiddle. ^_^
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<shevy>
how can I find out that "\342\234\224" is a checkbox though? or rather, it's more an arrow
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<Ox0dea>
shevy: Those are just characters encoded in octal.
<shevy>
hmm
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<Tarkers34>
apeiros: mutable objects are objects whose instance's contents can change? Strings are the only mutable objects? What other native ruby data classes are mutable, out of interest? Integers aren't.
<apeiros>
arrays, hashes
<apeiros>
sets
<apeiros>
queues
<Ox0dea>
shevy: "\e[32m" makes the foreground green, and "\e[0m" resets it to the original.
<Ox0dea>
I probably should have just called it named_unicode_literals, but I'm quite proud of the pun.
<shevy>
hmm
<Ox0dea>
Did you know you can actually handle mouse events in most modern terminals?
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<shevy>
I did not know that
<shevy>
that means I could on-click cd into a directory?
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<Tarkers34>
apeiros I'm trying to find a list of mutable object classes but honestly can't find any. Would you say that it? | String, Array, Hash, Set, Queue | ?
<shevy>
I seem to get a slight delay when I do require 'rugen'
<Ox0dea>
Blame the Unicode Consortium.
<shevy>
I can tell you let the ruby parser do work extra for the beer!
<shevy>
GOTHIC LETTER EIS
<yorickpeterse>
Meanwhile I'm writing Ruby code to generate Ruby code
<ytti>
go deeper
<shevy>
why do you use '' << 0x0002f ? does this convert it into a string or something?
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<Ox0dea>
I considered making the maps file dynamically generate the hash and replace itself, but that seemed like a naughty thing to do.
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<apeiros>
Tarkers34: most classes are mutable. it's the default.
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<shevy>
yorickpeterse yeah I don't know what I was doing, I actually wanted to just collect ASCII stuff, somehow I ended up with the unicode snowman....
<yorickpeterse>
heh
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<apeiros>
Tarkers34: so no, that list is not "it"
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<Ox0dea>
shevy: It's a way to ensure the data ends up being correct, insofar as it doesn't rely on the file having any particular encoding.
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<Ox0dea>
String << Fixnum will shovel the character corresponding to the latter's codepoint into the former.
<Ox0dea>
Tarkers34: BasicObject, Symbol, and the various numeric classes are the only ones whose instances can't be modified in some way without resorting to shenanigans.
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<Ox0dea>
anything.instance_variable_set(:@foo, 1)
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<Ox0dea>
BasicObject because it just doesn't even expose the methods for doing so, and the others because they're little more than pointers under the hood.
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<Ox0dea>
shevy: What I like about Rugen is that it takes Ruby from being the anomaly that doesn't support named Unicode literals to (probably) the only language that lets you use them outside of a string literal. :)
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<sphex>
Ox0dea: oh wow.. so lolcode has good unicode support? welp. perl has charnames::vianame and charnames::viacode to look them up at run-time, dunno if that's relevant to your "use outside of string literal" features.
<agent_white>
Afternoon!
<dudedudeman>
lol lolcode
<adaedra>
kek kekcode
<sphex>
ruby seems a little bit shy about unicode. by default regexes don't use the broad unicode character categories for its \w, \s, etc. String#upcase/#downcase don't care about unicode, etc. :/
<dudedudeman>
random, but how many ors can i have in a if statement?
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<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: that should be trivial to implement in CL
<dudedudeman>
as in if x || y || z || r?
<toretore>
as many as you like
<ytti>
sphex, it would be hella slow
<ytti>
grep -i takes ages if locales is WTF8
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<adaedra>
WTF8
<ytti>
huge difference to say locales C
<adaedra>
There are also the differences between languages to take into account
<adaedra>
i.e. for sort
<toretore>
that doesn't have anything to do with encoding
<sphex>
ytti: oh yeah.. but they did speed up the wide characters matching, even with really sparse character classes (such as certain unicode categories). regexp-heavy perl programs did not become crazy slow after they make them fully unicode-aware by default.
<Ox0dea>
agent_white: It's always morning (UGT) when you enter the channel.
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<adaedra>
Do you want your regexp /\w/ to catch a? å? a̾͒ͮͤ́҉̬̼̻̳͕̺͍̕ ?
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<agent_white>
Ox0dea: I know I know :P
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<Ox0dea>
adaedra: Sometimes. :P
<sphex>
ytti: I think the worst part about these kind of regexp engines is that they don't actually guarantee they will find the longest match. if there's an "alternative" in the regexp and the first branch allows to find a match, it'll sometimes stop there. :/
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<sphex>
adaedra: well.. perl got me used to that and I think it's pretty neat. I guess it doesn't really matter.. IIRC, there are other ways to match full unicode categories with ruby right?
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<adaedra>
ask Ox0dea, he seems to know better about that. His unicode lib is way bigger than mine.
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<ytti>
sphex, but we trade the predictability for convenieint of advanced features like neagtive lookahead etc
<ytti>
sphex, which are orthagonal to regular expressions, academically speaking
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<ytti>
it might be nice, if language would offer per expression choice for engine
<ytti>
so that when you don't need advanced features, you could use thompson NFA
<ytti>
or perhaps even dynamically switch
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<adaedra>
Also, what is \w
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<adaedra>
(Regex don't hurt me)
<sphex>
adaedra, Ox0dea: ok I just looked it up.. /[[:word:]]/ seems to be it. so, looks simple enough.
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<hoelzro>
ytti: interesting fact - perl allows you to use different RE engines for different regexes, should you choose
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<ytti>
hoelzro, i didn\t know
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<hoelzro>
a lot of people don't know a lot about Perl =)
<adaedra>
"Any word character" – that's again depending on the language. Å is valid in SE, not in FR – as long as it's common nouns, of course
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<sphex>
ytti: hrm. perl allows to switch between its built-in engine and PCRE at run-time. but they are pretty similar I guess.
<sphex>
oh
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<sphex>
adaedra: in perl, that is fully specified by unicode and locale-independent, "word characters" include stuff from all languages at all times.
<Ox0dea>
adaedra: Rugen is actually a very tiny "library"; it's just defining #method_missing and #const_missing to resolve character names. 99.9% of the "code" is just the map from characters to their names.
<adaedra>
Ox0dea: you still map way more characters :>
<Ox0dea>
adaedra: All of 'em! :)
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<noethics>
has anyone tried implementing isomorphic web app code with ruby/opal yet
<Ox0dea>
Do you actually pronounce it "interger", though?
<Senjai>
I didnt even realize my spelling mistake
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<Senjai>
No, just typing too fast
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<Ox0dea>
Ah, I've heard it said that way is all.
<adaedra>
Senjai: and so, you found how it works?
<Senjai>
I did not. I had an assumption, but that one doesn't make sense to me
<dudedudeman>
ok Ox0dea, after a lovely lunch, and a few hours of work that acutally isn't code(one day), i'm back attacking this thing. here's my most recent gist that I know doesn't work? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d26f9441bf064648a59a
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<dudedudeman>
well, anyone for that matter
<dudedudeman>
the ors. i want all the or statements in the world
<dudedudeman>
but i'm stuck on the proper syntax
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Nope, definitely the wrong way to go about it.
<dudedudeman>
poop
<adaedra>
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Utilizing Array#include? would be an immediate improvement.
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<dudedudeman>
dang it i knew it
<dudedudeman>
i seriously was going that route first
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Also, what happens if I say "No"?
<dudedudeman>
i mean i'm guessing a regex is appropriate here
<Ox0dea>
Nah, that'd be overkill.
<Ox0dea>
But think about how you might go about ignoring case entirely.
<dudedudeman>
downcase!
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Was that excitement, or the bang method?
<dudedudeman>
well, the ! there was to show my excitement. lol
<dudedudeman>
sorry, ha
<Ox0dea>
Cursed ambiguity.
<shevy>
I get excited when I type
<shevy>
def action!
<adaedra>
He banged excitement
<dudedudeman>
i get hyped when shevy types
<dudedudeman>
bang all the things!
<dudedudeman>
how's that for ambiguity?
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: I asked because String#downcase! does not behave like you might expect.
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<sphex>
ytti: thanks for that regexp link BTW. I never quite understood how they worked. it's interesting to have them explained in relation to real, efficient implementations.
<Ox0dea>
>> ['foo'.downcase, 'foo'.downcase!]
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<ruboto>
snockerton, Please show your real code to illustrate your problem. Using fake code often hides it or won't bring up the best possible solution.
<nofxx>
Ox0dea, where are you from?
<Ox0dea>
Over there.
<ljarvis>
Ox0dea was born inside the matrix
<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea is the matrix
<Ox0dea>
♫ We all live in a yellow submarine. ♫
<dudedudeman>
i do love that song
<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: sure
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<Ox0dea>
wasamasa: Is that what you meant by CL, though?
<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: yes
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<nofxx>
ljarvis, dudedudeman I'm beginning to think so. He never sleeps, or we share the same sleep hours =P
<Skizu>
I'm having a bit of issue setting up some relationships, could someone help me define them if I explain them?
<Ox0dea>
Yes, metaprogramming is always going to be easiest in homoiconic languages.
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<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: no, I don't write any
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<Ox0dea>
snockerton: Your reference to `value` on Line 2 is the problem.
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<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: scheme doesn't really, elisp not at all and clojure has some sort of compromise
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<snockerton>
ljarvis: an unrelated syntax error
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<nofxx>
Skizu, I'm kidding, you said 'having a bit of issue setting up some relationships'
<ljarvis>
snockerton: no, it's the exact problem
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<Skizu>
Basically, I've a user, it has many accounts, I have transactions it has a user a source and a destination, source and destination are accounts, what kind of relationships do I need for this?
<ljarvis>
Skizu: rails?
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<Skizu>
ljarvis: Indeed
<ljarvis>
?rails Skizu
<ruboto>
Skizu, Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
<nofxx>
Skizu, which DB?
<nofxx>
and ORM
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<Skizu>
Using the active record associations
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<Ox0dea>
wasamasa: Racket is also very good in that regard.
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<Ox0dea>
Racket is pretty much a "language factory", and it's pretty awesome.
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Still at an impasse? :/
<nofxx>
Skizu, maybe your question is better on the DB you choose channel. If it's a schematic answer you're after.
<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea: yes :(
<dudedudeman>
though not without trying things
<ljarvis>
so... #rubyonrails
<ljarvis>
which was already suggested
<Skizu>
nofxx: It's an issue of rails, not the specific DB
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<Skizu>
ljarvis: Already in there, was just answering when asked :)
<ljarvis>
Skizu: yep that wasn't directed at you
<nofxx>
Skizu, I see, the schema is ready.
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Would you mind having a go at describing what Array#include? does?
<dudedudeman>
not at all! let's do it
* Ox0dea
twiddles thumbs excitedly.
<dudedudeman>
what do i do
<dudedudeman>
oh! i describe it
<dudedudeman>
ok
<Ox0dea>
^_^
<adaedra>
^_^
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<dudedudeman>
well, this is a public method, yes?
<adaedra>
Good night everyone
<Ox0dea>
It's an instance method on Array, but never mind all that.
<ljarvis>
you tell us, dudedudeman
<Ox0dea>
adaedra: Au revoir.
<dudedudeman>
night!
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<ljarvis>
nn adaedra
<adaedra>
Have fun Ox0dea
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<ljarvis>
I'm off too, later
<dudedudeman>
i mean, it basically seems that if it returns true if the object(?) you're looking for is within itself?
<Ox0dea>
Yes, that's correct.
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<dudedudeman>
and false otherwise of course
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<Skizu>
#RubyOnRails is a lot quieter
<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: oh right
<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: but I'm less interested in that part of programming
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<Ox0dea>
You introduced the topic, for what that's worth. :P
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<shevy>
Skizu because we have cookies here!
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: In your case, what should be the array, and what the object?
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<dudedudeman>
the way it's set up now, i'm looking at it that input is the arrary, and i'm looking to see if it includes anything from another array
<wasamasa>
Ox0dea: nah, just because I can metaprogram doesn't mean I need to actually use these tools to write other languages with them
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: How did you end up with two arrays?
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<Ox0dea>
Your input comes in as a string, and there's no reason to transform it into anything else.
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<dudedudeman>
wait a minute
<dudedudeman>
to_a
<dudedudeman>
???
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<dudedudeman>
because .include? looks through an array for an object, and currently, my input is a string?
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<bougyman>
a string is an object.
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<dudedudeman>
right
<dudedudeman>
(stepping away from my desk for 2 seconds)
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<dudedudeman>
ok
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: What are some of the things that [1,2,3,4,5] includes?
<Ox0dea>
Name two.
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<dudedudeman>
objects and integers
<Ox0dea>
Specifically, name two of the things in that array.
<dudedudeman>
1 and 4
<Ox0dea>
Now, what are some of the things that 4 includes?
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<dudedudeman>
oh damn
<dudedudeman>
4?
<Ox0dea>
The question doesn't really make sense, does it?
<dudedudeman>
no
<dudedudeman>
(you're really good at this btw)
<Ox0dea>
^_^
<Ox0dea>
Aiming the question at strings is a little more troublesome, because strings do "contain" characters, but the principle remains.
<Ox0dea>
You don't ask an object whether it is included in an array, you ask the array whether it includes the object.
<dudedudeman>
input = 'this be my input"; yes = ['yes', y'
<dudedudeman>
dammit
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<Ox0dea>
But yes, I think you've got the idea.
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<dudedudeman>
input = 'this be my input"; yes = ['yes', y']; yes.any? { |y| input[y] }
<dudedudeman>
??
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<Ox0dea>
Why not just use #include??
<dudedudeman>
i guess i wrote that just based on being able to fully process in my mind what i'm learning here
<Ox0dea>
#any? is for when you need more advanced behavior; in this case, you need only perform the very simple operation of asking an array if it contains a certain element.
<dudedudeman>
break handle_yes if %w[YES Y].include?(input)
<Ox0dea>
YEAH!
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<dudedudeman>
HOT DAMN
<dudedudeman>
now i get exactly what you were saying when you said it was backwards
<al2o3-cr>
sup!
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<dudedudeman>
i was over here putting the break handle_ after all that lol
<Radar>
MAGICAL
<dudedudeman>
ok, lemme go do that to all the lines
* dudedudeman
is in awe and wonder
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<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: Journey > destination.
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<dudedudeman>
mmmmm. gimme that sweet, sweet journey
<al2o3-cr>
hmmm... someones got a good memory and it isn't me :P
* Ox0dea
rocks out to "Don't Stop Believin'"
<dudedudeman>
neil schonn!
<dudedudeman>
piddly piddly piddly wheeeee
<dudedudeman>
that's my best impression of a guitar solo on the internet
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<shevy>
impressive
<dudedudeman>
shevy shevy! i learned things!
<dudedudeman>
i'm abiding so hard right now
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<dudedudeman>
ok Ox0dea, it does indeed all work now!
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<shevy>
excellent!
<shevy>
one day you'll pick up a GUI too, and then you can help me out
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<dudedudeman>
speaking of gui, one of my favorite tracks right now is by a dude named gui boratto
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<Ox0dea>
shevy: You're supposed to be using JavaScript for GUIs. /s-ish
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<dudedudeman>
i mean, at least opal?
<shevy>
I could use php as well but who needs these inferior languages when you have ruby
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<dudedudeman>
not really. now i want to do something else fancy to it
<Ox0dea>
shevy: None of the GUI toolkits for Ruby even begin to approach idiomaticity.
<shevy>
Ox0dea do you use any GUIs in ruby?
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<Ox0dea>
I've used gtk2 a few times; it wasn't fun.
<shevy>
why are these upcased?
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<dudedudeman>
:'(
<shevy>
dudedudeman that looks weird
<Ox0dea>
shevy: To ignore case, silly.
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<shevy>
and they are not downcased?
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<Ox0dea>
What's the difference?
<centrx>
there should be an upyourscase
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<dudedudeman>
i do see why you were mentioning that Ox0dea, as i'm staring at the code and my array pops out at me and makes it a wee bit more readable
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<Ox0dea>
Aye, I think it's a very sensible decision, aesthetically if nothing else.
<shevy>
oh that is true, upcased letters are bigger and thus easier to read
<dudedudeman>
matchers is just a key value hash and you're iterating through that with input to invoke that method using send
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<Ox0dea>
Yep, that's about the size of it. Well done! :)
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<dudedudeman>
really!?
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<Ox0dea>
There are a few very minor details to do with how Hashes behave when enumerated over, but yeah, that was a pretty concise and accurate explanation of what's going on.
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<Ox0dea>
It's a lot easier to see that {name: 'Alice', age: 20} represents a person than ['Alice', 20].
<dudedudeman>
class Person; Person.new(name: 'Alice', age: 20)
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<Ox0dea>
They contain the same data, more or less, but a hash (elsewhere called a "map", not coincidentally) provides a sort of legend for finding what you're looking for.
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<jfarmer>
dudedudeman If you meant that you could look at a key/value pair as a mini array then I think that's more than fair, it's actually one naïve way to implement hashes.
<dudedudeman>
tuples. i guess it's time i start given those a once over and doing some reading. i've been avoiding them for months
<jfarmer>
Ruby doesn't have first-order support for tuples, so you often see Ruby using 2-element Arrays where a tuple would (conceptually) be more correct.
<Ox0dea>
jfarmer: Ah, sorry about that; I misinterpreted "mini array" to mean something similar to but somehow "less than" an actual array, whereas you just meant a tiny one. :)
<dudedudeman>
yes! truly a tiny array
<dudedudeman>
lol
<Ox0dea>
Yes, key-value pairs are little two-element arrays that, when grouped, represent a hash.
<jfarmer>
Some languages (like Python) do have first-order support for tuples and treat them as something distinct from arrays/lists.
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* Ox0dea
hisses.
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<jfarmer>
Whoa, is there a snake in here?
<Sou|cutter>
you could probably make a tuple factory like Struct...
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<jfarmer>
Definitely
<jfarmer>
In fact, a struct is to a hash as a tuple is to an array
<jfarmer>
(for dudedudeman)
<dudedudeman>
i'm following along here. this is great
<zenspider>
class Tuple < Array; def initialize(*stuff); super(); self.push(*stuff); self.deepfreeze; end; end
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: What's that pesky underscore doing on Line 29?
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<dudedudeman>
in yours?
<Ox0dea>
Oui.
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<dudedudeman>
well, you passed it in as a string, so you're interpolating within to pass the appropriate matchers value in to it, there for building the last part of the method you need to invoke it?
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<Ox0dea>
Ah, sorry, I think I've probably jumped ahead.
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<dudedudeman>
oh, wait. i was looking at line 30
<dudedudeman>
sorry
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<dudedudeman>
dang. i was like, i understand that! lol
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<Ox0dea>
For the record, your explanation of Line 30 was spot-on! :)
<dudedudeman>
LE WOOT
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<dudedudeman>
what we're doing here is one of my favorite types of learning. pushing myself ot figure out a new concept, but recognizing ones that i do know as we go along. helps reinforce the new and the old
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<dudedudeman>
i'll be honest. i am not under full understanding of what the _ on line 29 does
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<dudedudeman>
but, i am not thinking that it is pesky
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<dudedudeman>
does it have to do with account for the _ in handle and matchers?
<Ox0dea>
Nah, that's just to match the underscores in the method names.
<apeiros>
zenspider: .concat(stuff) - faster than .push(*stuff) :)
<apeiros>
or in this case, actually just .replace
<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea: man this has been great
<Ox0dea>
dudedudeman: I've quite enjoyed watching things click for you. :)
<dudedudeman>
i've got to leave work now, but i'm glad you ended up showing me that last example as it leaves me somethign to walk away with and learn later tonight when i get some time to study
<dudedudeman>
Ox0dea: Thanks!!! it's been really encouraging. for many reasons(i don't have a job in code, looking for one, and often feel like i might never get there, etc etc)
<dudedudeman>
so it's nice to know some things have stuck along the way. this will be one of those as well!
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<Ox0dea>
All in good time (and practice), my friend.
<dudedudeman>
yarp. cheers for now!
<Ox0dea>
YARP = Yet Another Ruby Preprocessor, anyone?
<Ox0dea>
We could use end+, and wouldn't that be just grand?
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