drbrain changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: this channel will redirect to #ruby the morning of June 1, Pacific Time
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<womble> Best error message of the week: undefined method `+@' for "-unknown_exchange":String
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<yorickpeterse> womble: well, you can't do +"some string"
<yorickpeterse> (that uses the +@ method)
<yorickpeterse> probably meant "..." + "foo"
<yorickpeterse> and not "..." +"foo"
<yorickpeterse> oh heh, that translates to the same
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<womble> Got to say, life would be significantly easier if strings of different encodings were different types.
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<bnagy> stahp
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<bnagy> this channel will redirect to #ruby the morning of June 1, Pacific Time
<bnagy> :<
<bnagy> RAGE, RAGE AGAINST THE DYING OF THE LIGHT
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* womble hopes for voice on #ruby-pro sometime
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<nofxx_> womble, life would be totally easier if everything was utf8
<nofxx_> but windows ppl are like mormons, don't believe in anything post 1993
<nofxx_> past? post?
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<ddfreyne> This might be the last thing I say on #ruby-lang. EVER.
<bnagy> you should have made it better, imho
<bnagy> just saying.
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* apeiros says something meaningful as last words
<apeiros> that was meta, and thusly in the spirit of ruby :)
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<maloik> oh no
<maloik> redirect? aww
<maloik> oh well.
<maloik> was nice while it lasted :'(
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<ddfreyne> We're FORCED to join the mainstream crowd in #ruby.
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<apeiros> end of hipster ddfreyne
<tbuehlmann> moin
<maloik> I'd never consider myself a hipster, so this channel can't have been hipster
<maloik> I liked that it was so small :(
<apeiros> maloik: you've just been an outsider here for all these years
<maloik> ahh damn
<maloik> that would explain
<maloik> maybe subconsciously I liked being among hipsters as it made me feel better about myself?
<maloik> :D
<tbuehlmann> I can't follow, redirecting?
<maloik> see topic
<tbuehlmann> June 1 2025?
<apeiros> tbuehlmann: feel yourself and your question redirected to the topic :D
<maloik> haha
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<maloik> any particular reason for it? or just that you feel it's time to make the channels one
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<tbuehlmann> is there a good reason to have two?
<maloik> probably not
<bnagy> yes
<maloik> I don't really mind tbh, I'm just sad cause I liked chatting in here with the smaller crowd
<bnagy> ^^
<maloik> community-wise, and for everyone popping in and not staying regularly it's the best move
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<apeiros> maloik: become a pro then and join #ruby-pro ;-)
<tbuehlmann> but that costs $5 a month
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<womble> nofxx_: The problem, for me, isn't UTF-8 vs crazy other encodings -- it's UTF-8 vs ASCII-8BIT
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<tbuehlmann> well well, time to join some #ruby then!
<maloik> why does it cost 5$? I just joined without paying
<tbuehlmann> lucky you
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<maloik> lol :)
<maloik> hmm time to clean up my channels it seems
<maloik> apeiros: it says "gaining voice - help", how can you help people if you can't speak in the channel? :D
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<apeiros> maloik: "it"?
<maloik> sorry, the website
<apeiros> ah
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<apeiros> *sob*, so much to do, so little time
<maloik> :D
<maloik> speaking of todos... the "host a gathering" link is also broken
<apeiros> should be "help people in #ruby-lang^H^H^H^H^H"
<maloik> :DDD
<apeiros> yupp, and there's typos in the site too
<maloik> speaking of typos
<apeiros> don't typo my nick
<maloik> that was like... wtf
<maloik> "dont use this in prod" but it doesnt do anything :(
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<apeiros> :)
<ljarvis> moin
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<apeiros> moin ljarvis
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<ljarvis> I wrote a load of C at the weekend, and it is seriously difficult after writing lots of Go
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<maloik> apeiros: im identified now
<maloik> :-)
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<apeiros> maloik: freenode disagrees:
<apeiros> 10:20 ChanServ: maloik is not registered.
<maloik> wut
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<apeiros> indeed, wut?
<apeiros> whois says you're identified
<apeiros> silly chanserv. maybe sync issue?
<maloik> oh
<ljarvis> wut
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<maloik> maybe it requires you to use my ident name?
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<maloik> that's "hafos"
<maloik> I should change that.
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<apeiros> iirc not
<apeiros> at least I'm pretty sure it used to translate nick to authname
<apeiros> well, I'll try with hafos
<maloik> let me change, I have no rights anywhere anyway afaik
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<ljarvis> no rights anywhere
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<maloik> oh you know what I mean
<maloik> ;)
<ddfreyne> ljarvis: I like writing C. I find it really hard to read other people's code, but I like writing it.
<ddfreyne> ljarvis: I nonetheless hope its use decreases though. It's really hard to write safe code :(
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<ddfreyne> safe/correct code.
<ljarvis> ddfreyne: I enjoy writing it but I get bored quite quickly
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<ljarvis> I find it hard to read some C code too, but I think there's a lot of badly written C code out there
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<ljarvis> some projects are much easier (redis for ex I found really nice to follow)
<ljarvis> but after writing lots of Go, I had a lot of syntax errors in my C :)
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<ddfreyne> ljarvis: I can imagine.
<ddfreyne> ljarvis: I find it mostly annoying that when there’s a bug, it is really hard to spot. No exceptions, no proper backtraces, etc.
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<ljarvis> yeah
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<adude> I need to access super(variable) from a function within the same class. Any idea how to do this?
<heftig> adude: please clarify
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<adude> so, I've got class b > a and in its initialize it's got super(variable). In the function below it I want to access that variable to turn it into a string
<centrx> Assign the result to a variable
<centrx> ?
<bnagy> maybe you mean you want to save it as an @ivar in initialize, so you can access it from other functions later?
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<adude> centrx and bnagy: I've assigned super(variable) to an instance variable, but when I access it from the other function it just returns a blank character
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<centrx> Show code - gist.github.com
<canton7> wait... why do you think that 'super' returns anything you can use?
<canton7> oh, not initializers: a normal method?
<canton7> yeah - show code
<bnagy> $0.25 on @var=variable; super(@var) being what they want :P
<apeiros> but but but… initialize is a normal method :)
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<adude> here's the code on gist.github.com: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/eefa67a086ceb2f0cce9
<ljarvis> adude: remove your entire initialize method on Employee
<adude> I want => Frank, but I just get =>
<jhass> bnagy: you lost, hand over
<jhass> adude: just don't define initialize at all in the child
<ljarvis> adude: you're overriding it, you dont' want to do that; since Person sets @name for you, you can access instance variables from the child class
<adude> ljarvis: that's it, thanks
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<bnagy> jhass: eh? No I didn't?
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<jhass> "it would work for them" != "it's want they want" so, where are my primecoins!
<apeiros> no more rubycoins?
<bnagy> jhass: touche
<bnagy> I am ashamed.
<jhass> primecoin is the most useless concurrency I actually posses
<apeiros> I think I still have some disney land dollars
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<TheCuriousGuy> Hi
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<jhass> hi
<TheCuriousGuy> For Rails, there is http://guides.rubyonrails.org/
<TheCuriousGuy> Is there something like that for Ruby?
<TheCuriousGuy> I mean a good comprehensive online documentation?
<havenwood> TheCuriousGuy: http://ruby-doc.org/
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<TheCuriousGuy> havenwood: Isn't this the API documentation?
<jhass> look at the files section, quite some text there
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<TheCuriousGuy> jhass: Are you talking to me?
<jhass> yup
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<TheCuriousGuy> I can't find "files section"
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<ljarvis> TheCuriousGuy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.2/
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<ddfreyne> When is this channel going to die?
<ddfreyne> I'm bored of it. :D
<jhass> in a few hours I hope
<havenwood> Bye channel! o/
<jhass> basically whenever drbrain awakens I guess :P
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<centrx> The dynamic tension between #ruby-lang and #ruby creates leveraged synergy
<imperator> he says, out of the blue
<apeiros> centrx: was that a marketing headline generator?
<centrx> How much will you pay me for it to be?
<canton7> nah, that's someone who's had to sit through too many bullshit meetings
<toretore> you can't leverage the synergy unless you adopt agile workflows
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<canton7> crystallize the low-hanging fruit!
<canton7> maximize the synergies!
<canton7> ^ actual quotes
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<jhass> you know what you problem is? that you listened to these meetings for a single minute
<apeiros> I'd find some low hanging fruits in the very meeting room and crystallize 'em…
<canton7> (from a friend of mine, thank god)
<ljarvis> require 'active_synergy'
<toretore> "low-hanging fruit"
<toretore> wanna see my low hanging fruit kids?
<jhass> ljarvis: we should totally prepare that as a PR for next april 1
<apeiros> lol
<ljarvis> jhass: I'd be scared it'll be merged
<apeiros> I'll add active-antagonist
<apeiros> (chaosmonkey for rails?)
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<centrx> What the devile!?
<centrx> #ruby-lang merging with #ruby !? I thought this was some kind of joke
<jhass> I guess you have to blame me if you feel like it :P
<centrx> What about the dynamic tensions? The synergy? Was this a leveraged buyout?
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<centrx> jhass, You have to get the website changed...
<jhass> centrx: yes, my attempt of doing that without merging got this merge going :P
<centrx> cool
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<centrx> cart before/after horse
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<centrx> bbiab, I have to go cry about this
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<imperator> any oauth2 users here? trying to do some azure authentication with it and i'm a bit out of my element
<imperator> (using ruby of course)
<imperator> first question, how i set the response_mode? i need to set it to query, but i'm not sure where/if i'm supposed to do that
<jhass> might not be worth to start a discussion here at this point, head over to #ruby ;)
<imperator> ah, right
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<ruby-lang775> Hey, I have a Ruby script here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6d205d53d82fbb5732c6
<ruby-lang775> This is meant to go through a document with timestamps and add a certain amount of time to all the time stamps
<imperator> jhass, has the redirect not been setup yet?
<jhass> imperator: nope
* imperator was thinking it was may 31st, sorry
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<ruby-lang775> would it be possible, instead of just adding time to the "hh:mm" fields, to add two more fields to represent seconds and frame, and have them always be 00:00?
<ruby-lang775> so the dream would be to have hh:mm:00:00
<ruby-lang775> just so that I can copy and paste into a video system that reads those four fields
<jhass> '%02d:%02d:00:00'
<ruby-lang775> awesome, thanks!
* jhass wonders if you tried anything before asking
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<ruby-lang775> i know absolutely nothing about ruby; i just needed a solution to replace time stamps
<ruby-lang775> and someone told me a ruby script could do it
<jhass> I mean it's looking at the patterns and guessing
<ruby-lang775> yeah, but i didn't know which fields did which thing
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<centrx> RIP #ruby-lang
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<imperator> welp, just gonna hang out on #ruby now
<imperator> adios #ruby-lang
<havenwood> \o
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<dfockler> o/
<dfockler> see you all over in #ruby!
<centrx> :(
<centrx> #ruby-lang forever!
<centrx> #ruby is for geology and jewelry!
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<drbrain> oh, hello, it is about time to push you all over to #ruby
<jhass> \o/
<jhass> er, hi
<apeiros> \o/
<drbrain>
<apeiros> rapture
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<dfockler> I only hung out here last week, thanks for all the memories
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<jhass> yw
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<drbrain> let's try this:
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<drbrain> hrm
drbrain changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: This channel has been merged with #ruby, we are happy to welcome you all there
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<havenwood> \o/
<drbrain> I believe jhass is going to proceed with the kicking which should force you all over to #ruby
<jhass> yup
<ddfreyne> How rude!
<jhass> just going to add a few +I's
<jhass> by all!
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<canton7> might help to explain *why* in the kick message?
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<drbrain> only another ~ 5 minutes
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<yxhuvvd> and thus ends more than a decade in the channel
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<centrx> oh my
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<centrx> Rebel Yell!
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<centrx> but the website!
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<VinnyBoy> holy
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<VinnyBoy> whats going on?
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<centrx> Channel is moving to #ruby
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<havenwood> VinnyBoy: #ruby
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* dfockler waves on a sailboat towards the sunset #ruby
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<nofxx> VinnyBoy, winter is coming
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<jhass> yeah
<jhass> VinnyBoy: /topic ;)
<jhass> sooo
<jhass> do we want to keep the logger bot? apeiros I think you got a contact for charliesome, want to thank him and tell him that the bot's no longer needed here? :)
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<drbrain> I sent charliesome a DM
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<jhass> hm, I expected _far_ more people having autorejoin and clients that follow forwards
<jhass> only like 15% so far
<apeiros> so empty now…
<jhass> you may leave it if saddens you :D
<apeiros> logger bot is by whitequark, not charliesome
<apeiros> evalin is from charlie
<jhass> yeah, sorry, meant that as two separate things
<apeiros> I'll ping him
<jhass> drbrain already said he did
<apeiros> he said he pinged charlie
<apeiros> drbrain: did you also ping whitequark? :)
<jhass> oh you meant you'll ping whitequark
<apeiros> yepp
<ljarvis> zomg
<ljarvis> it's cosy here
<drbrain> ok, so I won't ping whitequark
<jhass> yeah, far better than #ruby-pro
<jhass> xD
<apeiros> :'(
<apeiros> is the +b * still up?
<apeiros> that'd block +if
<apeiros> (can't check - limechat bug when clearing server log… :-S)
<jhass> same thought, checked, it's gone
<jhass> webchat.freenode.net follows the forward at least
<drbrain> apeiros: I removed the +b *
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<zenspider> is there any point to hanging in here?
<jhass> nope :D
<jhass> just didn't kick you because you're op etc
<zenspider> kk. out...
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