#ruby-core on 2013-01-23 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:10 <znz_v> biff: [ruby-changes:26847] drbrain:r38899 (trunk): * lib/rdoc/servlet.rb: Fixed display of site and home documentation. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=26847

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01:16 <travis-ci> [travis-ci] The build was fixed. by @drbrain: See http://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/4320531

01:20 <znz_v> biff: [ruby-changes:26848] drbrain:r38900 (trunk): * lib/README: Fixed typo. Patch by Pradeep Sahoo. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=26848

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01:35 <znz_v> biff: [ruby-changes:26849] drbrain:r38901 (trunk): * doc/syntax/assignment.rdoc (Local Variables and Methods): Fixed - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=26849

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10:31 <dostoyevsky> Does ruby change signal handling when calling c extensions? I am trying to test SIGTERM handling in my C code but I can't get SIGTERM to get noticed while in the code... If I send SIGKILL it gets noticed immediatedly...

10:41 <dostoyevsky> Basically I am doing: Ruby: fork { doSomethingInCAndWaitForSignalSentThenTouchTransactionFinished; } kill SIGTERM, child; File.touch "signal-sent"; waitpid child; File.exists?("transaction-finished") <- but transaction-finished will always exist after calling the C code, regardless of whether I have used sigprocmask() to ignore SIGTERM or not. SIGKILL will make the test fail, though

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17:03 <zzak> _ko1: ping!

17:04 <zzak> _ko1: i really want to understand this bytecode thing

17:05 <zzak> _ko1: i saw #6714 about code injection, is this related? it seems to be delayed.

17:06 <_ko1> pong

17:08 <zzak> _ko1: can you please explain?

17:09 <_ko1> #6714

17:09 <_ko1> URL

17:09 <_ko1> pls

17:09 <zzak> http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/6714

17:09 <_ko1> thanks

17:09 <_ko1> ah

17:09 <_ko1> > Sorry, maybe I don't have enough time to make it until 2.0 release.

17:09 <zzak> by portable i mean, you can package bytecode to run on other computers and interpreters

17:09 <_ko1> that's all

17:10 <_ko1> No relation between this proposal and bytecode

17:10 <zzak> ok

17:11 <_ko1> "No relation" is wrong.

17:11 <_ko1> bytecode instrumentation is needed

17:12 <_ko1> but no relation with bytecode *binary output*

17:12 <zzak> i was reading an older announcement on rubyinside

17:12 <_ko1> all of then are in internal.

17:12 <zzak> http://www.rubyinside.com/ruby-2-0-implementation-work-begins-what-is-ruby-2-0-and-whats-new-5515.html

17:12 <_ko1> s/then/them/

17:13 <zzak> it talks about bytecode export/import as feature:

17:13 <zzak> "Ruby 1.9 runs on the YARV virtual machine and so will Ruby 2.0, but Ruby 2.0 is expected to make it simple to save pre-compiled Ruby scripts to bytecode representations and to then run these directly. Running pre-compiled bytecode will skip the parsing stage of the standard interpretation process. If you use Rubinius or JRuby you may be familiar with this concept."

17:13 <zzak> a lot of people ask for this feature, and if its possible yet

17:13 <_ko1> not yet :(

17:14 <zzak> my response is usually: "umm look at iseq" but that is incorrect

17:14 <_ko1> in official

17:14 <_ko1> my student made

17:14 <_ko1> castoff

17:14 <_ko1> https://github.com/soba1104/CastOff/

17:15 <_ko1> this is compiler from yarv insn to C

17:15 <_ko1> pre-compiler

17:15 <zzak> nice!

17:15 <_ko1> I want to make

17:16 <_ko1> such a compiler

17:16 <_ko1> and group related compiled iseq

17:16 <_ko1> .

17:16 <_ko1> for example, under lib/ruby

17:16 <_ko1> all *.rb into one .so file

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17:16 <zzak> that would be awesome

17:17 <_ko1> it will improve startup time dramatically

17:17 <_ko1> however, i can't summerise this specification

17:18 <zzak> i love the idea, i think many people would use this feature

17:19 <zzak> _ko1: thank you for clarifying this for me :)

17:23 <_ko1> I can't find out my proposal about it

17:23 <_ko1> [ruby-core:46896] (Half-baked DRAFT) new `require' framework

17:23 <_ko1> this one.

17:24 <_ko1> not on the ticket

17:24 <_ko1> packing several files introduces incompatibility

17:25 <_ko1> i want to clear this issue with new load protocol

17:25 <_ko1> but not finished.

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17:28 <zzak> seems dependant on new require api :)

17:29 <zzak> i cant find ticket either

17:29 <_ko1> only on ruby-core

17:29 <_ko1> ml

17:29 <zzak> got it

17:29 <_ko1> it will boost

17:29 <_ko1> require time significantly

17:30 <_ko1> because it is free from OS's file system

17:33 <zzak> it will make for smaller ruby install also

17:34 <_ko1> mruby!

17:34 <_ko1> i go to bed. good night

17:34 <_ko1> 2:34am

17:37 <zzak> _ko1: thanks again, good night!

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20:05 <znz_v> biff: [ruby-changes:26858] marcandRe: r38910 (trunk): * NEWS: whitespace - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=26858

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