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<dbussink> pwh: can you please fix your client?
<dbussink> you've been spamming with connects and disconnects
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<yorickpeterse> swift +o to the head would help
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<maasha> hey, how to run profiler from command line?
<maasha> I am sure I saw it somewhere, but I cant find it.
<cremes> maasha: rbx -Xprofile -Xprofiler.graph <command>
<cremes> if you want the flat output, just -Xprofile is sufficient.
<maasha> cremes: right
<maasha> Someone should add that to http://rubini.us/doc/en/tools/profiler/
<cremes> that someone could be you! get some commits under your name… ;)
<maasha> ?
<maasha> There is a "how to contribute to the docs" page?
<maasha> Or do I need to commit that too? :o)
<cremes> just suggesting that you could write the documentation patch and submit a pull request. once accepted, your name will be added to the illustrious list of rubinius contributors.
<cremes> and yes, there is a “how to contribute” page in the docs. no need to write that one.
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<maasha> cremes: the contribute page is bullshit, sorry.
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<cremes> maasha: i see you have a lot of complaints. have you considered that you can help solve them to your satisfaction?
<maasha> cremes: I think it would be a good idea to improve the "how to contribute" so someone like me. If Wikipedia was difficult to use it would be empty.
<maasha> cremes: so the docs are on github, but not in the code tree?
<cremes> fork it, make your changes, send pull request
<maasha> cremes: ok, I was looking at the https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius repository.
<cremes> maasha: i sometimes work on the docs… pls tell me what you think is wrong about the current doc(s) and i’ll add it to my list.
<cremes> looking at the “how to write documentation” page I do see that it’s out of date, so i’ll do some nipping and tucking soon.
<maasha> cremes: an example on how to contribute docs on the "how to contribute" page :o)
<maasha> cremes: there is a great rails cast video one could like to.
<cremes> adding an issue to either rubinius or the rubinius.github.io repositories would be nice. that way i can refer back to the issue without remembering what was said in irc.
<maasha> *link to
<maasha> cremes: will do
<cremes> good idea. i’ll add that.
* maasha sets out to report this as an issue :o)
<cremes> thank you!
<maasha> no worries :o)
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<GitHub153> [rubinius] jc00ke pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/p5oC2Q
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<GitHub153> rubinius/master 6a03669 Jesse Cooke: Clean up formatting...
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<GitHub47> [rubinius] jc00ke pushed 1 new commit to 1.8.7: http://git.io/U8zxnw
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<GitHub47> rubinius/1.8.7 daa4826 Jesse Cooke: Clean up formatting...
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<headius> hmmm
<headius> the coverage lib on Rubinius covers kernel code too...I don't think it should
<headius> I believe it's only supposed to cover files loaded after itself
<headius> might improve perf if it's not covering kernel too
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<jnh> Anyone know why =~ is explicitly undefined on Pathname in rubysl-pathname?
<|jemc|> jnh: I ran into this a little while ago but never got around to getting to the root of the problem and filing an issue or PR
<|jemc|> if I remember correctly, it was something like:
<|jemc|> Pathname doesn't have =~ in its public API, so it was being undefined in the rubysl implementation
<|jemc|> and you see the error you're seeing when the rubysl file somehow gets loaded _twice_ even though both times require is used so it should load at most once
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<|jemc|> the second time =~ is already undefined, so you see the error
<|jemc|> I was going to file a PR adding an if defined? of some kind to prevent the double remove
<|jemc|> but I didn't end up doing it because it would just bandage over the more insidious problem of
<|jemc|> why is the file getting required twice?
<|jemc|> anyway, I ran out of time to investigate the issue - but let me know if you find anything else out about it
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<jnh> okay, so I'm running into a bunch of issues with code being loaded twice.
<jnh> having the same issue with RSpec also.
<jnh> interestingly my problems go away if I bundle exec rspec
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<|jemc|> If I recall correctly I think my load-twice experiences were also connected to rspec
<|jemc|> I know rspec uses some kind of require shim to load its dependencies for some odd reason
<|jemc|> maybe their require shim is monkey-patching require in some way that breaks the Rubinius loader?
<|jemc|> again, I'm not looking at it right now - just going off my vague recollection
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<jnh> yah. I spoke to Jon and Myron a few months ago.
<jnh> it uses `load` to load specs (for obvious reasons), but something else is happening in the loader.
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<yorickpeterse> I've never seen any double code loading problems with rspec on rbx, something else might be throwing it off
<|jemc|> jnh: I was thinking of RSpec::Support.define_optimized_require_for_rspec
<|jemc|> but looking at it now, it doesn't look like it would interfere with the rubinius loader
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<|jemc|> I wonder if it has something to do with symlinks?
<|jemc|> I noticed that when requiring a file and a symlink to the same file, they both go through (on MRI and on RBX)
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<jnh> right, require should probably take that into account
<|jemc|> jnh: are you by any chance using rbenv to manage your rubies?
<jnh> nope. I'm using rvm
<jnh> something about the massive amount of meta-programming I'm doing in Huia is causing this to show up though.
<|jemc|> k, I use rbenv so I was wondering if that was a common denom
<|jemc|> jnh: I've seen it even when not doing any rbx monkey-patching
<jnh> okay. good to know.
<jnh> it just started happening to me again last night.
<jnh> |jemc|: what timezone are you in? do you want to pair on it and try and find the source of the issue some time?
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<|jemc|> jnh: UTC-8
<jnh> I'm UTC+13
<|jemc|> and sure, if we can find a good time
<jnh> so it's 3:30pm there?
<|jemc|> 4:30
<|jemc|> (daylight savings time)
<jnh> so it's 12:30 here.
<|jemc|> so I guess I'm technically -7
<jnh> (lunch time)
<jnh> so that means your afternoon my morning
<jnh> what time works for you?
<|jemc|> well, this would be an off-the-clock activity for me so evening is best
<|jemc|> I'd be ready tonight in about 1.5-2 hours
<|jemc|> or some other day at around the same time
<jnh> hrm. I have an appointment that I have to leave for in 2.5 hours.
<jnh> how about tomorrow same time?
<|jemc|> sure
<|jemc|> I'll try briefly tonight to reproduce it so I have somewhere to start from
<jnh> cool. you don't have an email on your github profile, so send me a calendar invite to james@resistor.io and I'll accept it :)
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