00:09 <edrex> <leon-p "if you wanted to use that approa"> The combinator thing wants to look like a male connector on one end and a matched female connector on the other (or some other non-gendered language, that one always makes me squirm a bit). so if I were to go down that road I'd probably want to put the work in to make a helper lib that makes it easy to provide a wayland env to the wrapped layout process.

00:11 <edrex> i'm still looking to be convinced that the abstraction presented by river is preferable to others. I really like the quality of what y'all have produced so far, but it seems rather esoteric with bitmasks and such and I don't "get it". Like I think I understand the what, but not the why, unless it's just low-level efficiency and the perceived elegance of working with bitmasks.

01:06 <leon-p> a bitmask is simply the best way to implement tags. It wins over something like a list in basically all areas. It's more efficient, you can use bitwise logic instead of iterating, etc.

01:07 <leon-p> to decide whether a window is displayed, all you have to to is basicaly `window_tags & output_tags > 0`

01:09 <leon-p> there are only two downsides I can think of: 1) you can not have per tag variables, but since tags are _not_ atomic contexts like sways workspaces that is idiomatically speaking not a problem, 2) the amount of tags is hardcoded, but since we use u32, there are 32 tags per output and I don't think anyone will ever need more.

01:11 <leon-p> as for why we are using a wayland protocol for layout generators instead of staying with pipes: it makes complex layouts easier and less hacky to implement and is more idiomatic

01:13 <leon-p> RE: 2): if you do run out of tags, let us know, increasing the amount is simple :)

13:39 <leon-p> turns out I was able to improve contrib/layout.c quite a bit, nice

18:42 <novakane[m]> would it be feasible to make a layout with the main view location not changing? Like having a view taking 3/4 like with rivertile but new view would be on the side

18:51 <leon-p> novakane[m]: everything that can be expressed as a static list of x,y coords plus width,height values is possible

18:57 <novakane[m]> alright I'm gonna try to do something based on rivertile, small project to learn a bit more zig