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<snkt> hello
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<snkt> can anyone help me how take backup of linuxroot.img ?
<snkt> means linux filesystem...
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<c0d3z3r0> did anyone get u-boot working on rock pro?
<PaowZ_> c0d3z3r0: good question..
<PaowZ_> it seems a special binary is needed to make NAND initialization. This binary is missing..
<PaowZ_> I believe you can make it work only if you need SD card.
<c0d3z3r0> ok good idea I didn't thought of :) let's have a try
<c0d3z3r0> uhm do you know what i have to put in the paramater file to run uboot from sd card?
<PaowZ_> there must be some 'parameter' file example on wiki..
<PaowZ_> something like /dev/sd** blabla probably..
<AstralixNB> c0d3z3r0, you can download the nand image for linux from radxa server and rkunpack it. Then you have all needed parameter things and even some rootfs and such
<c0d3z3r0> AstralixNB: I don't need parameter file for linux :) i want to use u-boot
<AstralixNB> for uboot you don't need a parameter file as it replaces the loader that interpretes the parameter file
<AstralixNB> Or do you want to try uboot as a 3rd stage loader loaded by the RK-Loader?
<c0d3z3r0> if that works, yes
<AstralixNB> normally uboot doen't like to be loaded...
<c0d3z3r0> I tried to flash it to nand but it's not really working...
<AstralixNB> The uboot from the rk sources is working, but it only supports eMMC memory
<AstralixNB> So you have to modify it to accept SD
<AstralixNB> It does not accept NAND
<c0d3z3r0> how do I make the radxa use loader from sd card?
<AstralixNB> read the backlog from just the last five minutes what I am talking to naobsd
<AstralixNB> in #linux-rockchip
<c0d3z3r0> yep I see thank you
<AstralixNB> welcomed
<AstralixNB> c0d3z3r0, I was interested in making an open available uboot for rk3188 too...
<naobsd> AstralixNB: rk u-boot supports NAND
<AstralixNB> And thishttps://github.com/Astralix/uboot boots at least into a console. It replaces the initial RK_Loader completely and it does NOT support nand for now
<naobsd> AstralixNB: to support NAND, you need to flash RKxxx_miniall.bin as loader, and flash uboot.img into uboot partition
<naobsd> see UserManual in u-boot repo
<naobsd> it's supported/just work
<AstralixNB> naobsd, yes, but I wanted to create a working solution as the RK NAND driver costs too much performance and is closed source
<AstralixNB> It relies on rknand_ko.ko what eats up to 100% on one core with every little NAND access
<naobsd> AstralixNB: I can understand it, but it's different thing to "how to use NAND with u-boot" question ;)
<AstralixNB> Yes, so there is a solution with the miniall.bin and there is a plan to use an open-source FTL and avoid any RK miniall.bin
<naobsd> yes
<naobsd> and currently former is available, no missing binary
<naobsd> just missing easy howto ;)
<AstralixNB> Unfortunately the open-source FTL is not available for commercial products as all open-source FTLs are pateted.
<AstralixNB> patented
<naobsd> and for people who want easy thing, just use RK loader, it works fine ;)
<AstralixNB> And if you use eMMC or SD it works fast too :)
<naobsd> current RK u-boot does't gives any feature more than RK proprietary loader
<AstralixNB> If one has a eMMC board, you can use uboot and use the dwmmc driver ported from kernel. So you have full speed.
<naobsd> no reason to use u-boot except for hacking u-boot itself
<AstralixNB> Cause in recent uboot from RK I saw that there is an ecnrypted additional driver on top of the mmc driver again.
<AstralixNB> So I have some fears, that even you use eMMC there is again something blocking a core for something no one needs.
<AstralixNB> But that is to be verified.
<naobsd> I do not know about it
<naobsd> all I know is emmc/sdmmc works fine on kernel with open source driver
<AstralixNB> Yes, and so you can use open source uboot with open source dwmmc driver and it should work.
<AstralixNB> I do not have and board with emmc. So I cannot test.
<naobsd> RK u-boot doesn't use standard sdmmc driver in u-boot, but it shouldn't prevent to use standard sdmmc driver in u-boot
<AstralixNB> reight
<naobsd> AstralixNB: you can try SD boot with RK u-boot ;)
<AstralixNB> sure
<AstralixNB> But one step after the other.
<AstralixNB> 1) Get a working environment of rk-loader + kernel + ubuntu desktop
<AstralixNB> 2) replace RK-Loader with uboot
<AstralixNB> 3) replace kernel with something recent
<AstralixNB> 4) get recent kernel working with MALI and VPU
<AstralixNB> Where I prefer VPU over MALI
<AstralixNB> Task 0) Buy more SD-Cards to be able to test multiple things without destroying working things
<naobsd> AstralixNB: for mainline, you have to add LCDC and HDMI support before GPU/VPU thing
<naobsd> ah
<naobsd> headless 3D render/video encoder/decoder is possible :)
<naobsd> oh
<naobsd> i have to leave soon
<AstralixNB> step by step. I have a bunch of 3.0.36+ up to 3.0.101 and there are experiments of google to add 2D/3D/VPU support in chrome
<AstralixNB> See you later.
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<repercuss> hello all
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