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pcercuei>
larsc: I heard you have a Nanonote and like to build Linux kernels
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larsc>
don't trust the rumors
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larsc>
need to go buy milk, shops close in 15 min
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pcercuei>
there's no rush
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eintopf>
wahhh no milk
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eintopf>
no shoko milk :(
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larsc>
pcercuei: I'm back btw.
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eintopf>
larsc: do you will be at elce?
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eintopf>
larsc: the linux sound architecture stuff (ALSA) is so 1990 years style :-/
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larsc>
I'll be there
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larsc>
ALSA is super advanced
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eintopf>
(be there) ah, ok.
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eintopf>
yea but to make some modern stuff people adding new layers in userspace
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eintopf>
e.g. pulseaudio
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eintopf>
using plain ALSA -> you don't like to do that anymore
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larsc>
ALSA at the core is like Vulkan
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larsc>
difficult to use for endusers, but can deliver maximum performance
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eintopf>
the new open 3d api stuff?
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larsc>
come to my talk and you'll learn all about it ;)
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eintopf>
oh I don't know if I will be at ELCE
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eintopf>
but I recently wrote some DSP plugin
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larsc>
pulseaudio is the hero though we all needed
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eintopf>
for the alsa API stuff
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eintopf>
or something like that
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eintopf>
don't remember the name
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eintopf>
but it was funny, I had some wine plugin wrapper loader for winamp DSP plugins
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eintopf>
and feed ladspa(I think that was the name) with that
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eintopf>
I think ladspa is already deprecated?
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larsc>
I've never heard of it before, no idea
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eintopf>
I looked for an easy way to add some DSP for a pulseaudio output
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larsc>
I think pulseaudio has a nativ API for that
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eintopf>
you can load some ladspa plugin (so far I understand)
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eintopf>
I tried that at first
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eintopf>
but this is only some other technique
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pcercuei>
< eintopf> using plain ALSA -> you don't like to do that anymore
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pcercuei>
nobody ever used plain ALSA
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pcercuei>
you used libasound, aka the user-space part of ALSA
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eintopf>
that's the dsp plugin for pulseaudio
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pcercuei>
which has always been a terrible pain in the ass
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pcercuei>
for devs, at least
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eintopf>
pcercuei: the kernel part is ALSA, but userspace part can also be ALSA
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eintopf>
and yes I think it's libasound :-/
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pcercuei>
PulseAudio replaces libasound, and that's a good thing
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eintopf>
but I need to run pulseaudio in userspace :(
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eintopf>
I don't like to have latency
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pcercuei>
well, you ran libasound in user-space before, right?
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eintopf>
I think so, before
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eintopf>
I also used some time ago OSS
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eintopf>
and not ALSA
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eintopf>
and yes I used OSS when OSS was not in kernel anymore
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eintopf>
but OSS, the name is open sound system
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eintopf>
but it's not open :(
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eintopf>
that's my current soundcard
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eintopf>
and I am very happy with this device
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eintopf>
there are no noising when I change the volume, not so much complicated mixer settings...
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eintopf>
I had a emu10k1 before
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eintopf>
it worked well as well, and I know the emu10k1 chip has some hardwaremixing stuff feature - I think I never get this feature running
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eintopf>
and some in-hardware effects stuff
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eintopf>
emu10k1 is okay...
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eintopf>
the fiio stuff is geat, I can also plug it into my notebook
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eintopf>
but digital coax output, I have now a converter from digital coax <-> digital optical
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eintopf>
I am interessted in ALSA kernel stuff, because you really need to know how doing things fast
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eintopf>
otherwise somebody will replace ALSA with a faster alternative ;-)
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eintopf>
and what about real time linux + ALSA real time use-cases
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eintopf>
larsc: I really don't like LF conferences, this is all too much marketing stuff and LF is far away from the community
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