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<viric>
whitequark: would you like to meet together with kyak?
<viric>
whitequark: we are agreeing for monday
<whitequark>
viric: yup! that would be good
<viric>
perfect!
<viric>
I don't mind about the place
<viric>
you both may easier propose some.
<wpwrak>
ah, the exchanging of war stories over a few bottles of vodka ... :)
<viric>
well, our stories may be not that interesting as war stories :)
<whitequark>
war stories... yeah
<wpwrak>
weeks of hunting that bug, and finally killing it ? where's the difference ? :)
<viric>
the emotion of long nights sitting at the gdb prompt
<whitequark>
lldb*
<whitequark>
:p
<wpwrak>
while hearing strange noises in the darkness
<viric>
the neverending compilation times
<whitequark>
the feeling of recompiling the entire linux kernel all over again after changing one byte in the arch/ header
<viric>
famine, thinking for long that you'd fix the bug really soon, but the fix never happening
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<whitequark>
projects long abandoned by their authors and users alike, only remaining dormant on web.archive.org with the source archive 404'ing and just the binaries available for some reason
<wpwrak>
whitequark: you make it sound as if recompiling the kernel took long :)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: on a netbook.
<wpwrak>
ok :)
<whitequark>
I was broke :)
<wpwrak>
you should do FPGA synthesis. gives you a whole new perspective on slowness
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<whitequark>
I did :D
<wpwrak>
on the netbook ? :)
<whitequark>
mmm not sure, it was a long time ago
<whitequark>
but my current notebook has a quad-core i7
<whitequark>
it heats all the way up to 80 degrees Celsium!
<wpwrak>
that should help :)
<viric>
a good winter friend
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<whitequark>
viric: you mean "oh, not second-degree burns on my legs again"? :D
<viric>
:)
<kyak>
im already afraid of meeting you guys )
<wpwrak>
ah, designed for those long cold russian winters, when it's too cold to go to the vodka shop
<whitequark>
(no, not second-degree. but I did get a burn from it once.)
<whitequark>
I wonder if that's why its case is metal: the plastic simply melts
<viric>
kyak: :)
<wpwrak>
that's what happens if you put on only one set of asbestos underwear
<viric>
the plastic case of one friend's notebook quite melted
<wpwrak>
good engineering
<whitequark>
a notebook I got really long ago heated up so much that its VRAM has desoldered
<whitequark>
isn't that about 300 deg since RoHS?!
<whitequark>
and it did survive two or three times of resoldering it back
<viric>
and I heard of another one where the whole netbook got red as in forgery
<viric>
hm
<viric>
no
<viric>
bad word
<viric>
ковка
<whitequark>
viric: this is why you don't do liquid cooling with molten metal
<whitequark>
unless it's Hg
<viric>
:)
<whitequark>
or an eutectic Sodium-Potassium alloy (I think)
<whitequark>
... or that lead-bismuth-why-you-arent-dead-yet allot
<whitequark>
*alloy
<wpwrak>
thermal management in notebooks is interesting. i'm sometimes surprised they work at all.
<whitequark>
wpwrak: I'm constantly surprised computers work at all
<whitequark>
but yeah :D
<wpwrak>
whitequark: stay away from the ones that use plutonium gas for cooling :)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: cloud computing in its essence!
<whitequark>
performed by clouds of vaporized silicon
<whitequark>
given that these critters now have effciency of 90-95%
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<larsc>
hm, something is broken `git commit` uses 100% cpu and 500MB of memory
<whitequark>
gdb it!
<whitequark>
or even strace
<larsc>
brk, brk, brk, then nothing
<whitequark>
it's brken.
<larsc>
doing a repack now, lets see if that fixes things
<larsc>
nope
<whitequark>
(gdb) bt ?
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<larsc>
I don't have debugging symbols built into my git
<whitequark>
oh.
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<larsc>
seems to be stuck in remove_redundant
<larsc>
well it will succeed eventually, but it takes a few minutes
<larsc>
funny, seems to be my branch
<larsc>
on a different branch everything is fine
<larsc>
hm, a rebased fixed it
<whitequark>
when in doubt, randomly rebase
<lindi->
whitequark: thanks for noticing the nvidia optimus update btw, I forwarded the info to the original asker
<whitequark>
lindi-: mmm what? I didn't reply to anyone... was just bored
<lindi->
whitequark: well, the question was asked 10 months ago and you know what Linus replied :)
<lindi->
whitequark: and I only found about about this update when I read your comment yesterday
<larsc>
to the original asker from the recordings?
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<lindi->
larsc: yes
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<bitHipy>
Can any linux-based netbooks drive 2 exterinal displays?
<larsc>
that obviously depends on the hardware used on the netbook
<mog>
bitHipy, my thinkpad x120e can do that
<mog>
its tiny
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<bitHipy>
mog: are there 2 video cards in that? or would it need an expresscard video card?
<mog>
it has a vga and an hdmi port
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<mog>
but you can only push so many pixels off the graphics card
<mog>
im not sure what the max number is though off the top of my head
<mog>
but ive pushed a monitor and an 800x600 projector off of it before
<whitequark>
most stupid intel cards can push out smth like 4096x4096
<viric>
that reminds me of a unichrome card I have in an AMD Sempron 2600
<viric>
The xorg module does a memory speed test
<viric>
and reports 60MB/s
<viric>
isn't that very slow?
<viric>
what are ram speeds these days, in MB/s?
<larsc>
60MB/s is like harddrive speed, isn't it?
<viric>
slower.
<viric>
:)
<johnnyonflame>
larsc, my hdd can do 100~
<viric>
I remember seeing some Xeon tests recently.... reporting RAM at ~60MB/s
<viric>
hm it maybe was 60GB/s? :)
<viric>
I guess so
<viric>
but the video card memory speed thing I mention, reported 60MB/s...
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<Jabedin>
Would this be the appropriate place to ask about MIPS hardware design? If not, could anyone suggest a network & channel?
<larsc>
depends on which aspects you want to talk about
<Jabedin>
It's homework. Basically I'm to design a processor If (rs==rt) {rs = address of next instruction && rd = rt} {else PC+4 (skip to next instruction)}. I know how to do this using arithmetic operators, lw, sw, & beq. HOWEVER: it says I can't use lw, sw, or beq. I don't understand how I'm supposed to implement it without those...
<larsc>
I suppose you are supposed to implement the instruction in hw not in sw
<Jabedin>
I'm saying that I know how to implement lw sw & beq in hardware
<Jabedin>
but I'm not allowed to design a processor using those functionalities
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