<xiangfu>
BTW. I pass some company today, leave them some milkymist one brochures :)
<xiangfu>
it's a event manager company. I just saw it and leave some brochures in front of their door. :) I try to direct give them to their people but I think I scared this girl
<kyak>
xiangfu: thanks :)
<kyak>
i'll have a look at changelog, see if something is missing
<kyak>
xiangfu: new packages ibr* - btw, they fail to build -\
<xiangfu>
ok. will remove them from new packages.
<xiangfu>
"The original StarDict project has recently been removed from SourceForge due to copyright infringement reports. Most of the files were lost with the demise of the project. The project has re-emerged here since then, though the legal issues may never have been resolved. "
<wolfspraul>
[m1 brochures] - nice
<wolfspraul>
if they are interested, they will come forward. just give them a chance so they cannot later complain they didn't know about it ;-)
<wolfspraul>
[stardict] well, don't know. we have to make our own judgment. do we have all the sources? do we think they are properly licensed as free software?
<fossrox_>
guys, please check out this: http://www.osnews.com/story/25056/The_Community_Design_and_you_Thought_the_USPTO_Was_Bad - they came up with another form of intellectual property rights, it works like patents, and has nothing to do with any community from what i get but they labeled it "Community Designs" - maybe to make people talk bad about community designs
<wpwrak_>
fossrox_: nice, eh ? :) i'm still not quite sure if this should be viewed more as a potential threat or as an insult
<wpwrak>
hmm, the drawback of being able to quickly define a set of ~80 different parts with a few simple rules in fped is that, eventually, you'll do just that ....
<fossrox_>
wpwrak_, yes, it's really such a crap that i don't know what to say more
<wpwrak>
rejon: seems that 7 (the width) should be 7.5. the distance of the "leg" is a bit more difficult, doesn't quite fall on a grid or half-grid point. it's also hard to tell because you used anti-aliasing. is there an original version that has clean edges ?
<rejon>
pleae fix
<rejon>
please fix
<rejon>
sorry under the gun
<rejon>
that is a cool tool
<rejon>
wpwrak, yes, lets make them all consistent
<rejon>
and the sharism and qi and ben symbols
<wpwrak>
for now, i just need qi :) the others are much harder anyway
<wpwrak>
for the qi logo, how about 7 -> 7.5 and stretching the leg from 5 to 5.5 ? i think then it should be roughly the same
<wpwrak>
well, i'll double all the numbers. fractional numbers are a sign of indecision :)
<wpwrak>
rejon: does the qi-hw logo have any invisible properties ? such as a minimum clearance ?
<jow_laptop>
the corresponding .config symbol is CONFIG_MAKE_TOOLCHAIN=y
<jow_laptop>
this is of course a bit less useful if the build host is amd64
<jow_laptop>
also if its very new, in particular the used glibc, the resulting binaries may not run everywhere
<wolfspraul>
kyak: yes, good idea. Let's mention that. Last time people complained.
<wolfspraul>
wpwrak: don't know where Jon stands on that
<kristianpaul>
kyak: how often this binary-compatible issue happen?
<kyak>
kristianpaul: this is the first time, due to major upgrade of uClibc 0.9.30 - 0.9.32 (there was one release based on 0.9.32), but we quickly changed back to 0.9.30 :)
<wpwrak>
heh, "major upgrade" and 0.9.30->0.9.32. so that's how you express the concept of "understatement" in version numbers ;-)
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: (logo) do you like the "digitalized" one ?
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: regarding the design details, i'd just post them on the list. then rejon can process them at his leisure :)
<kyak>
wpwrak: if i'm not mistaken, there had been several years between these releases :) so yeah, they are major
<kyak>
trying to find a kernel cmdline parameter to control the bell.. "setterm -bfreq 0" prints escape characters to a terminal, and i don't like it..
<kristianpaul>
hum, nupdf still there..?
<kristianpaul>
oh man :)
<kristianpaul>
if people can read on their bb why i cant on my nn ;)
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: regarding jon's logo: do you like idea / the design ?
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: btw, did you trademark name or logo anywhere ?
<wpwrak>
(or plan to)
<wolfspraul>
[like new logo] I'm fine with both
<wolfspraul>
I have the old logo in a lot of places and I will not spend any time to replace them
<wolfspraul>
if Jon is pushing the new logo into places, great
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wpwrak>
heh ;-)
<wolfspraul>
[trademarks] for a while I spent a lot of money on US and EU trademarks, then I realized the system stinks, only slightly less than the patent system.
<wolfspraul>
so now I trademark nothing anymore, and I leave the ones that are already registered or in different states of registrations abandoned
<wpwrak>
the old one would be a bitch to include in, say, faceplates or to print it on PCBs. that is, unless the tools in question don't just work like a postscript printer
<wolfspraul>
in other words, I go back to the good old system of 'trademarks' (tm), not 'registered trademarks' (r)
<wpwrak>
(trademark) very good. i expected nothing less ;-)
<wolfspraul>
I take them serious, but the registered databases are a joke
<wolfspraul>
bloated, inefficient, made by and for lawyers
<wolfspraul>
large companies are trampling over this anyway, they long don't care anymore, other than some lawyers feeding themselves there of course
<wolfspraul>
if I have a trademark X registered, and Apple (for example, pick any other giant) chooses to use X 3 years later, they will just do it
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wolfspraul>
the databases are even used to hunt down enemies, which they would otherwise not find
<wolfspraul>
for example Elphel registered a trademark "/* source inside */" over 5 years ago
<wolfspraul>
and used it on the outside of their cameras
<wpwrak>
"intel inside" ;-)
<wolfspraul>
until after over 5 years Intel found out about it. maybe one of their lawyers had nothing to do on a Friday, did a little search.
<wolfspraul>
so screw the system, Intel lawyers on 500 USD / hr paychecks will just contact you directly
<wolfspraul>
they will not file an opposition through the system etc.
<wpwrak>
or it took them 5 years to work their way to "e" ;-)
<wolfspraul>
they just bully you, and eventually it's smarter to give up on your "rights"
<wpwrak>
should have studied law :)
<wolfspraul>
bottom line: not one more penny into the rotten system of trademark registrations