cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
<altendky> when might i expect a docker image for 3.7.1? i promise i'm not looking to nag :] just wondering what the timeline normally is for this.
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<mattip> something is off with the windows threading locks
<mattip> -A tests have a number of "error: release unlocked lock" errors, leading to test collection failing
<mattip> well, 3, only one of which prevents test collection
<mattip> strangely, the previous test run had 11 errors like that
<mattip> what caught my eye is that the buildbot sumamry page shows failures from the previous run but no results from other runs
<mattip> I would have expected a skip (s) or success (.) instead
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<arigo> we seem to get a lot of people commenting about pypy3.exe crashing on startup (always on bitbucket's issue tracker, unsure how they *still* get past the wall of text at https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/issues/new)
<arigo> maybe one day one of them will answer the single question we have for them?
<mattip> maybe it is the same person, and they are not proficient in english
<arigo> the latest version seems to use better english than the other ones
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<Major_Biscuit> Hey folks, if anyone from the PyPy team is here, thank you for your work! I would like to donate to PyPy but there is no "donate" info on pypy.org and the link on the blog returns a 404.
<arigo> hey! thanks. At the moment we're in a transition period for funds, but you can go to https://opencollective.com/pypy, where we're moving to
<Major_Biscuit> great, thank you!
<mattip> Major_Biscuit: how is pypy working out for you? Care to share? Any benchmarks/pain points?
<Major_Biscuit> Thank you for asking. I'm mainly using it for scientific/numerical code and while, as expected, most of the numpy code doesn't benefit from the JIT compilation, the parts that are pure python are about 1.5 times faster. I don't have any benchmarks readily available. Currently a pain point I have is getting scipy to work. The installation via pip fails for pypy 3.7.1 as reported here
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<mattip> is that still happening even after the 7.3.1 release? I think conda now has some builds
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<Major_Biscuit> I haven't tried conda, I was using pip+venv
<Major_Biscuit> but I will try with conda
<mattip> hmm, the latest release should work with pip+venv
<mattip> but maybe I only tried it with pip (without venv)
<mattip> to build the wheel, then pip should cache it on the machine for venv use
<Major_Biscuit> I'm on PyPy 7.1.1-beta0 if it makes any difference
<mattip> yes, please update to 7.3.1 that was released a few days ago
<Major_Biscuit> okay will do, thanks
<mattip> if you can, get back to let us know how it works out
<mattip> (building scipy is a major chore)
<Major_Biscuit> yes I can imagine. I will do some testing and report back
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5270 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5270 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5271 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
<mattip> foss.heptapod.net will be unavailable for much of Mon. On the otherhand, after the downtime, pushing should be ~6-8x faster
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5271 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
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<mattip> trying to write an untranslated test for 2938 on windows
<mattip> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, "ii-CN"); time.strftime("%a", (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9))
<mattip> but getting lots of Error: unsupported locale setting
<mattip> is there a way to use some "interesting" locales untranslated?
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<arigo> mattip: I managed to do: _locale.setlocale(_locale.LC_TIME, "fr_CH")
<arigo> note the "_" instead of the "-"
<arigo> I managed to write a test with my fr_CH locale
<arigo> the CPython 3.6 behavior of time.strftime('\u1234'), on a system where \u1234 cannot be converted to the system's locale, works on Linux but not on Windows
<arigo> because on windows it uses the 8-bit strftime() function, but on linux it uses wcsftime()
<arigo> but pypy never uses wcsftime()
<arigo> do we care?
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5272 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5272 [arigo: testing issue-3211-debug, issue-3211-debug]
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